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| Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce |
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44 | 21.36% |
| ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress |
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19 | 9.22% |
| Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin |
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9 | 4.37% |
| Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit |
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8 | 3.88% |
| Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died |
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24 | 11.65% |
| Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country |
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14 | 6.80% |
| ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread |
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17 | 8.25% |
| ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter |
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15 | 7.28% |
| ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming |
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2 | 0.97% |
| Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy |
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10 | 4.85% |
| ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union |
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5 | 2.43% |
| ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die |
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25 | 12.14% |
| Total: | 206 votes | ||
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How ill do you have to be to not vote on Brexit? (Asking for dianne abbott...)
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Jedit posted:Nor is voting to table an act the same as carrying out the consequences, a distinction lost on the Nazi Anal. Because they don't have a majority at Holyrood? They only have 63 MSPs while there are 65 opposition MSPs? This has been the case for almost a year?
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Alertrelic posted:The two SNP abstentions were due to family issues and ill health, not political factors. More police interviews ?
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Feb 2, 2017 16:11
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So Budget time is coming. What do you think of the Greens reducing the SNP's proposed cuts to Councils?
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Feb 2, 2017 16:57
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I've seen Labour supporters criticise the Greens for "rolling over for SNP austerity" and it's very lolworthy.
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Feb 2, 2017 17:11
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Coohoolin posted:I've seen Labour supporters criticise the Greens for "rolling over for SNP austerity" and it's very lolworthy. Why is this "lolworthy"? It's overly critical of the greens I think, who at least forced some concessions, but the SNP are still cutting spending. They've even straight up copied Osborne's reasoning: quote:SNP MSP John Mason says that it is right that funding follows need.
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Feb 2, 2017 17:57
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Edit: I'm not sure what happened there.
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Feb 2, 2017 18:02
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Glasgow City Council are cutting £1 Million from Sheltered Housing in Glasgow and the the remaining £2 million in December 2017, I know that much. https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/827171297352310784 https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/status/827172211844788224 Gonzo McFee fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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Feb 2, 2017 18:18
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This is good imo https://twitter.com/MeanwhileScotia/status/827180547025801216
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Feb 2, 2017 18:38
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Gonzo McFee posted:Glasgow City Council are cutting £1 Million from Sheltered Housing in Glasgow and the the remaining £2 million in December 2017, I know that much. "Lol" said coohoolin, glancing up from his socialist worker
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Feb 2, 2017 18:41
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Gonzo McFee posted:Glasgow City Council are cutting £1 Million from Sheltered Housing in Glasgow and the the remaining £2 million in December 2017, I know that much. I think we've found a new quote for Patrick Harvie's twitter bio e: also Matthew Broderick was not sitting in that class, him not being there is the whole point of the movie JEEZ MORE TORY SCUM GETTING IT WRONG Angepain fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Feb 2, 2017 |
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Feb 2, 2017 18:41
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https://twitter.com/PeatWorrier/status/827296886000406528 It's not The National but still a silly front page from the Heil
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Feb 3, 2017 00:27
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what exactly distinguishes a "back room" deal from the regular minority government deals
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Feb 3, 2017 00:40
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Angepain posted:what exactly distinguishes a "back room" deal from the regular minority government deals "People I don't like did it "
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Feb 3, 2017 00:40
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Anyone got a list of all the demanded cuts? Aberdeenshire Council has been told to find another £24m. They're having to consider a 2.5% rise in council tax because there's nothing left to cut.
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Feb 3, 2017 08:44
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I'm going to reconsider my Green membership. The amount of patting themselves over them reducing the cuts slightly is pathetic.
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Feb 3, 2017 15:23
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Jedit posted:Anyone got a list of all the demanded cuts? Aberdeenshire Council has been told to find another £24m. They're having to consider a 2.5% rise in council tax because there's nothing left to cut. Breakdown of funding allocations, by local authority, is here: http://www.parliament.scot/S5_Local_Gov/Inquiries/20170203_SPICeLGCBriefStage1.pdf Also demonstrates why both sides can legitimately argue whether there have been cuts at all, since ringfenced funding means support to local authority services is increasing.
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Feb 3, 2017 17:00
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My quoted figure of £24m cuts for Aberdeenshire comes directly from Jim Savege, the council Chief Exec. I hope I'm seriously misreading those charts, because otherwise the SNP are pushing Tory levels of austerity and straight up lying about it.
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Feb 3, 2017 19:25
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Jedit posted:My quoted figure of £24m cuts for Aberdeenshire comes directly from Jim Savege, the council Chief Exec. I hope I'm seriously misreading those charts, because otherwise the SNP are pushing Tory levels of austerity and straight up lying about it. Better yet. It would of been worse if the budget got through without amendments.
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Feb 3, 2017 19:33
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Alertrelic posted:Breakdown of funding allocations, by local authority, is here: This is the essence of it. Labour want to use Table 2 since it shows a decline. The SNP want to use Table 3 since it shows an increase. Basically it depends on if you count revenues outside of the resource grant as part of the overall funding allocation or not. The Fraser of Allander Institute sums it up as such. quote:Finance Secretary Derek MacKay announced that spending on local government services would increase by around £270m in 2017/18 relative to 2016/17. I should mention however that that article was written before the Green concessions so the figures won't be exact anymore.
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Feb 3, 2017 20:20
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Leggsy posted:This is the essence of it. Labour want to use Table 2 since it shows a decline. The SNP want to use Table 3 since it shows an increase. Basically it depends on if you count revenues outside of the resource grant as part of the overall funding allocation or not. Thanks for posting this; the Fraser of Allander usually has very good analysis of budget issues, and this makes for interesting reading. As they note, we don't have all the details yet, but, on the face of it, the budget is better than I gave the SNP credit for. I still think they've been massively let off the hook for local government cuts up til now, and sadly I don't see that ever changing amongst the electorate at large, but it's good to see encouraging steps being taken now. I'm glad there's provision for social care in there, albeit bundled up with health. The promise of a living wage is good news, although I'm not 100% sure how that will work in practice, since AFAIK most (all?) care and support work is not directly council-run but via organisations like the Richmond fellowship, so that may be something of a loop hole. Anyone here with knowledge of the sector able to share their thoughts?
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Feb 3, 2017 21:36
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Shame it's the Daily Mail but this is a great read https://twitter.com/JournoStephen/status/827850287490662401
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Feb 4, 2017 13:32
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The Mail seems a much better fit for Daisley than STV
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Feb 4, 2017 14:16
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I have no idea who he is, but if literally every organisation to try and ensure a free press are saying you were in the wrong, maybe... just maybe.... you were in the wrong. From how it sounds, he was asked to stop being both editor and writer for the politics segment. That sounds entirely appropriate to me, no man should be his own editor, at least not for non-fiction. By definition, you are lacking oversight at that point. e; Not to say that his blog post doesn't have some reasonable points. Should the MPs and others have contacted him for his side of it? Yes. Are a too large number of writers willing to sell themselves up the river for an, as he puts it, selfie with Sturgeon? Possibly. However, he's flying his staunch Unionist-only flag high when he says that Rowling was the only one to defend him on Twitter. Rowling is funny and engaging, but she's still essentially a troll. 2nd edit: I mean read this loving quote - "the 24-Hour Grievance Hotline that passes for a government at Holyrood" That's the definition of someone with a chip on their shoulder. There's ways to criticise the SNP government, god knows there are a few, but this is loving awful writing. mehall fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Feb 4, 2017 |
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Feb 4, 2017 16:22
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I never thought Pete Wishart of all people could own someone so thoroughly. But here we are. If the SNP are the supposed masters of grievance. Then they learned it from the Scottish press, who seem to have a persecution complex larger than the national debt.
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Feb 4, 2017 18:58
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In the absence of anything much going on at holyrood right now, have some surprisingly good human interest journalism. The beeb takes a bit of pointless fluff and uses it for a gentle exploration of local myth-making with national implications. It likely won't tell you anything you didn't know, since the gist can be summed up as: quote:There is little evidence to support many of the associations but it does not mean they are not strongly held But I appreciated how it quietly scrutinised the myth without belittling the guys who're passionate about it
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Feb 7, 2017 09:30
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Are you planning on linking to it?
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Feb 7, 2017 09:32
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cargohills posted:Are you planning on linking to it?  Deep roots of William Wallace tree legend
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Feb 7, 2017 09:40
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I read it's been ten months since legislation was put before Holyrood - is that true?
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Feb 7, 2017 09:47
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Pissflaps posted:I read it's been ten months since legislation was put before Holyrood - is that true? I assumed that couldn't possibly be true, but looking into it a bit further it does seem that no Acts have been passed since last March. However, this seems like normal operation of the parliament, and 2016 actually had more Acts of Scottish Parliament passed than any previous year (22), as seen here in handy graph format: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp This doesn't mean that the Parliament does nothing. Aside from the committees there are still debates on bills, for example, such as the debate the Domestic Abuse Bill in September. So it's technically true but rather meaningless and/or misleading. [Edit: just realised who I was replying to, and "technically true but rather meaningless and/or misleading" seems very apt!] Niric fucked around with this message at 10:10 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Feb 7, 2017 10:05
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If you can provide some examples where I have mislead you or anyone else I'd be grateful and also surprised.
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Feb 7, 2017 10:17
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Pissflaps posted:If you can provide some examples where I have mislead you or anyone else I'd be grateful and also surprised. Ok, "mislead" is a bit harsh. "Technically true but rather meaningless and/or liable to lead to a pedantic semantic argument"
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Feb 7, 2017 10:27
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I think you'd struggle to find an example of that too.
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Feb 7, 2017 10:27
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I'll admit to being one of the ones who interacts with him in UKMT, but can the Scotland thread declare Independence of Pissflaps?
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Feb 7, 2017 11:41
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Anyone have a gif or still of Salmond's absolutely raging face at the debate?
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Feb 7, 2017 12:52
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Coohoolin posted:Anyone have a gif or still of Salmond's absolutely raging face at the debate? Sadly not.
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Feb 7, 2017 13:01
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Coohoolin posted:Anyone have a gif or still of Salmond's absolutely raging face at the debate?  https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/snp/alex-salmond/news/83120/watch-alex-salmond-fumes-deputy-speaker-eu
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Feb 7, 2017 13:04
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They always angry about something.
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Feb 7, 2017 13:08
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Pissflaps posted:They always angry about something. To be fair, this is something that they should be getting angry about.
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Feb 7, 2017 13:09
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Pissflaps posted:They always angry about something. But Pissflaps - You hate Brexit! Surely you of all people want to support the largest Westminster party to oppose leaving the EU, yes?
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