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The only reason we have Guardians, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, and even Deadpool is because of that deal. If Marvel owned it all we'd never have seen the lesser properties. So I'm glad Fox has them.
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X-O posted:The only reason we have Guardians, Ant-Man, Dr. Strange, and even Deadpool is because of that deal. If Marvel owned it all we'd never have seen the lesser properties. So I'm glad Fox has them. It is mildly amusing that they tried to license out Thor, Cap and Iron Man and nobody wanted them.
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The only one that stings to me is Spider-Man, because we might have been spared some of the more terrible movies. The MCU would have been completely X-Men focused if Marvel had their rights, so I agree with the notion that Fox having X stuff allowed the MCU to flourish in more exciting ways.
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Rhyno posted:It is mildly amusing that they tried to license out Thor, Cap and Iron Man and nobody wanted them. Thor and Cap were sold to some crappy B list studio but the movies never happened.
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ToastyPotato posted:The only one that stings to me is Spider-Man, because we might have been spared some of the more terrible movies. The MCU would have been completely X-Men focused if Marvel had their rights, so I agree with the notion that Fox having X stuff allowed the MCU to flourish in more exciting ways. If Sony didn't own Spider-man we'd have never gotten Bonesaw, it was well worth the 2 really bad films.
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Feb 3, 2017 03:23
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Looks like the CW-verse is going to get more crowded as Fox has passed on the Black Lightning pilot but CW has stated they're interested in getting it.
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Aphrodite posted:Thor and Cap were sold to some crappy B list studio but the movies never happened. They didn't? Was that after Cannon films made that garbage Captain America film in 1990? Or wait, that was some other company made when one of the Cannon guys left Cannon. 21st Century?
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Despite some good comics featuring them coming out, the late 90s when Marvel almost collapsed was probably when Cap, Thor and Iron Man's stock were at their lowest. They'd been shoved to the side a lot to make room for X-titles and Symbiote/Spider-stuff, the avengers book had spent several years focusing on GRIM N GRITTY heroes, both Tony and Thor had been replaced by other people for extended periods of time, etc. I don't think half as many people on the street knew who the gently caress Thor was compared to like, Carnage. There's something poetic about the core 3 Avengers not only staying with Marvel, but forming the basis of the MCU.
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http://variety.com/2000/film/news/artisan-deal-a-real-marvel-1117781709/ Looks like it was a co-production deal, so Marvel had more involvement in it than the Sony and Fox deals I guess. It also included Deadpool somehow. Artisan wasn't a literal B movie studio, but they weren't on Sony or Fox tier of course. The whole idea was those characters weren't big, flashy $100m movie characters and could be done cheaper. Some of those garbage animated movies from the mid 2000s came from that deal, and Punisher and Man Thing. But we all know how the big ones ended up going.
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I wanna point out that Dark Archie is the best comic book tv show at the moment, and I'd love for there to be a CW Netflix crossover so we could have a live action adaptation of Punisher meets Archie.
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Feb 3, 2017 06:21
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At least call it Darkchie.
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Teenage Fansub posted:At least call it Darkchie. Nope. It's Dark Archie.
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Feb 3, 2017 06:29
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Riverdale sucks. Completely generic.
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Did anybody take a bullet for the team and watch Powerless? What's the word there?
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TwoPair posted:Did anybody take a bullet for the team and watch Powerless? What's the word there? I watched it. The main girl has the same iPhone case that I have. Other then that it was ok. I did appreciate the opening credits too. It has classic comics scenes (like action comics #1's cover) and it zooms in on a background nobody as the actor. Found it on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28mV0bATS1k I just like how well it shows that there is all this crazy action and the show is about the people in the background that no one gives a poo poo about. It embraces it. The Fuzzy Hulk fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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It's got Alan Tudyk so it can't be all bad right?
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theironjef posted:They didn't? Was that after Cannon films made that garbage Captain America film in 1990? Or wait, that was some other company made when one of the Cannon guys left Cannon. 21st Century? Which is the one where he knocks people out and nicks their cars?
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The credits for Powerless are definitely the highlight. There is just something off with Vanessa Hudgen's performance that kinda ruined the whole thing for me, even if I liked Danny Pudi and Ron Funches in their roles.
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Powerless was sort of OKish except it wasn't funny, which is not good in a sitcom. I'll probably give it one more episode but I get the feeling it won't last very long anyway.
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muscles like this! posted:Looks like the CW-verse is going to get more crowded as Fox has passed on the Black Lightning pilot but CW has stated they're interested in getting it. Fine with me. I like the CW-verse. Just wish they'd bring back live-action Constantine.
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I am getting increasingly frustrated with CWverse shows. Low budgets are no excuse for some of the brain dead writing we've had. This past episode of Arrow had Oliver tag along with Wild Dog, who uses automatic weapons to shoot people, to chase down a new meta for the team, who they twice wanted to prevent from killing her enemies (who tortured her, murdered her lover, and are drug traffickers). The second time occurs literally seconds after Ollie shoots and blows up and enemy helicopter with at least the pilot still in it. It sucks because outside of these brain farts, the shows are entertaining enough for me to enjoy. But they keep happening and it is starting to feel like they are getting more frequent or that I am noticing them more. Doesn't help that there are 4 shows now as opposed to just Arrow during the first 2 years.
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He literally like 5 minutes before that told her how he thinks he's too far gone. He thinks she can be saved, he knows he and Rene can't.
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Aphrodite posted:He literally like 5 minutes before that told her how he thinks he's too far gone. He thinks she can be saved, he knows he and Rene can't. It still doesn't make sense. That would mean him and his team would be the worst people to be around. "We can save you! You don't need to kill! Join us. We will kill people probably, but you shouldn't!" Do as I say not as I do is literally awful for a mentor/team leader to be preaching. It's dumb. It comes off like there is a mandate to make Ollie feel bad about killing, but the writers just can't help but write him constantly killing people, and then everyone on his team seems to shoot and kill people, but he only feels bad about it when the plot calls for it. That's bad writing. The whole not killing thing isn't unique to this show, or Green Arrow in general, but they are uniquely stumbling on it on a regular basis now. I have never seen anyone struggle to handle this story telling trope this consistently in all of my years watching and reading superhero crap.
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CW comic book shows are inept soap operas. When they should be fun, action packed soap operas, like the comic books.
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Oliver is a bad mentor and teacher. That's consistent. Curtis doesn't kill people and neither did Evelyn.
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https://twitter.com/Deadline/status/827330030707412992 Normally I'd say "No more superheroes! Especially on the CW!"... But Black Lightning and his daughters? Hell yeah! 
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Aphrodite posted:Oliver is a bad mentor and teacher. That's consistent. Evelyn joined a serial killer murderer after she had issues with Oliver being a serial killer. Bad writing, terrible example. Curtis was uncomfortable with the murders for like what? 5 minutes? No one on the show is as bothered about all the murdering as Ollie is, except for the times he isn't. And he conveniently doesn't seem to want to murder villains that are particularly dangerous. He'll put arrows in chests of henchmen and blow up their helicopters, but big bads? Run at them with the bow, or just shoot to wound and watch them rip the arrow out before they escape. Bad writing. There's nothing wrong with liking poorly written things, but can we at least be honest with ourselves? The CWverse is poorly written from the most basic writing standpoint. That doesn't mean they can't be enjoyable, I have enjoyed them. It's just getting tiresome when the main conflict of an episode is centered on writing mishaps. ToastyPotato fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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Wheat Loaf posted:Which is the one where he knocks people out and nicks their cars? That one, but knocking people out implies more action than he's down for. He walks away from cars, pretends to be sick till the driver comes to help, then runs around them and steals the car. Twice.
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pubic works project posted:Fine with me. I like the CW-verse. Just wish they'd bring back live-action Constantine. Yes please. I don't think I've ever seen casting hit the nail on the head quite as well as they did with that show. I'd even accept a CW pick up if the next time they do a big crossover they call John in just so he can light up a cigarette and say "Naw mate not my scene" and wander off. Even better if later in the crossover they are like "John will save us... he was just being dramatic" then it cuts over to him ripping off a casino in vegas. Rhymenoserous fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Feb 3, 2017 |
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Rhymenoserous posted:Yes please. I don't think I've ever seen casting hit the nail on the head quite as well as they did with that show. That would be awesome. CW has all the rights to the show, and they're doing an animated series. But they need to get rid of Supernatural and put Constantine in its place.
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Is the animated series going to pick up where the show left off?
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pubic works project posted:That would be awesome. I quite enjoyed the show. I think it would have been better as a premium (think HBO) show but that's life. They could easily make this on the CW though, John has enough relationship/trust angst for any five or six CW verse shows and his standard decision making method generally makes Barry/Oliver look downright reasonable and responsible. There's no stupid decision they could have him make that you couldn't crack open a comic and find a much worse decision just by flipping the page. "Does something stupid with huge unintentional consequences" is baked right into the character.
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Constantine would have been peeeerfect as a HBO show. Vertigo was basically its comic equivalent.
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Shageletic posted:Constantine would have been peeeerfect as a HBO show. Vertigo was basically its comic equivalent. One of the biggest fumbles in the whole DC TV strategy, imo. Even a cable show would have been better (Walking Dead, etc.) than network TV. Huge fumble.
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I totally blame NBC. Such a poo poo network should not have been given control of anything DC related (which yes, is DC's fault).
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Shageletic posted:Constantine would have been peeeerfect as a HBO show. Vertigo was basically its comic equivalent.
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achillesforever6 posted:Likewise I don't know why they keep trying to make a Sandman movie when HBO is right there Profit margin is probably potentially larger for a 2.5 hour film and happens over a much shorter period of time than a TV series which is longer and might run for years. That said, Sandman is not likely the franchise that is actually going to benefit from being a film as opposed to a well produced premium cable show. But seeing how Time Warner has had no problem throwing properties around to competing networks, it seems clear that they view their DC brands as a way to make a quick buck as opposed to something to seriously invest in and grow over time. I mean, Batman is not just one of their biggest brands, it is one of the biggest brands in the industry, and they sold the tv rights to Fox? A competing company already holding rights to competing franchises owned by their biggest competition! . 
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ToastyPotato posted:Profit margin is probably potentially larger for a 2.5 hour film and happens over a much shorter period of time than a TV series which is longer and might run for years. That said, Sandman is not likely the franchise that is actually going to benefit from being a film as opposed to a well produced premium cable show. But seeing how Time Warner has had no problem throwing properties around to competing networks, it seems clear that they view their DC brands as a way to make a quick buck as opposed to something to seriously invest in and grow over time. I mean, Batman is not just one of their biggest brands, it is one of the biggest brands in the industry, and they sold the tv rights to Fox? A competing company already holding rights to competing franchises owned by their biggest competition! . Doesn't Fox have some sort of ownership of the Batman TV rights dating back to the Adam West series?
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Klungar posted:Doesn't Fox have some sort of ownership of the Batman TV rights dating back to the Adam West series? The only thing I remember seeing on it phrased it as a more recent deal: quote:Reilly continued to talk about how Fox has purchased the Batman franchise license for use on television, while Warner Bros. retains the movie franchise rights.
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Klungar posted:The credits for Powerless are definitely the highlight. There is just something off with Vanessa Hudgen's performance that kinda ruined the whole thing for me, even if I liked Danny Pudi and Ron Funches in their roles. It looked like they half-assed tried to crib from Better Off Ted, but totally missed all the things that made that funny. Even the fake commercial at the beginning is like an inferior version of the Veridian commercials. Emily is no Ted.
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