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MA-Horus
Dec 3, 2006

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how awesome I am.

It was my birthday yesterday

I bought 30 bucks worth of timmies for the boys in my shop, and got absolutely ragged on for being 10 years younger than the youngest guy (I'm 32 now)

Then my girlfriend took me out to the best BBQ joint in Toronto, fed me beers and shots, and bought me a 12-pack of custom-baked cookies.

If this is adulting, I'm OK with this.

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Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Really hoping that timmies is slang for donuts

Happy birthday

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
Looks like someone doesn't know about timbits

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones

Woof Blitzer posted:

Looks like someone doesn't know about timbits

You mean munchkins

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
SPEAK AMERICAN!

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Nostalgia4Infinity posted:

Kitchen poo poo I think. He called me this morning all excited about getting a job paying $17.55 an hour. I asked him doing what, he said sales which raised a red flag for me because this dude has zero work experience in sales. He says like knives and other kitchen stuff and he has a three day seminar next week and he might need to pay something up front and that's covered under my program right? I asked of that $17 an hour was firm or if it was based on commission and he was all gottagocallonotherlinebye so I think I have my answer.

I'm not looking forward to telling him my grant doesn't let me buy lovely knives or some other sales kit for him.

This sounds about right for Cutco, who uses Vector Marketing as their sales arm. Vector pays "$15/appt" according to all the signs I've ever seen up on college bulletin boards, at bus stops, on utility poles, etc. And I sure they weasel out of paying that right. Also, you have to buy a demonstration set, no idea what that runs. The knives themselves aren't terrible and do have a lifetime warranty, but so does the set of Henckels from Target for probably a quarter the asking price and a better reputation.

There's also Pampered Chef, which has Rachel Ray quality kitchen poo poo for Williams Sonoma prices. I have no idea how that racket works, but it's always hocked in catalogs or in-kitchen demonstrations at the representative's home, so probably closer to the Mary Kay and Avon side of MLM than Cutco. So you can theoretically make money doing Pampered Chef, but it ain't good money.

There are almost certainly more kitchen related MLMs, but those are the biggest I know.

Booblord Zagats
Oct 30, 2011


Pork Pro

LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

This sounds about right for Cutco, who uses Vector Marketing as their sales arm. Vector pays "$15/appt" according to all the signs I've ever seen up on college bulletin boards, at bus stops, on utility poles, etc. And I sure they weasel out of paying that right. Also, you have to buy a demonstration set, no idea what that runs. The knives themselves aren't terrible and do have a lifetime warranty, but so does the set of Henckels from Target for probably a quarter the asking price and a better reputation.

There's also Pampered Chef, which has Rachel Ray quality kitchen poo poo for Williams Sonoma prices. I have no idea how that racket works, but it's always hocked in catalogs or in-kitchen demonstrations at the representative's home, so probably closer to the Mary Kay and Avon side of MLM than Cutco. So you can theoretically make money doing Pampered Chef, but it ain't good money.

There are almost certainly more kitchen related MLMs, but those are the biggest I know.

I know someone who actually made some good cash off Vector marketing, but it was not as a sales person.

They had put out some ads for IT work in the Santa Barbara area, saying they needed someone to do structured cabling and configure their network. Dude shows up to a "Sit down" and they make him wait for an hour, then subject him to a 2 hour presentation about selling sports tickets to that the teams can't sell at lower prices. He politely waited, then waited another 2 hours to speak with a manager there, then asked what IT poo poo needed done, turns out there wasn't any, the ad was just an attempt to get more people working for another guy there selling poo poo, so my dude just billed them for 7 hours of his time (because it was an hour in traffic each way), and considering he was a higher end network and IT consultant in the Southern California area, he did it at full rate, which was about $280/hr. They balked at the bill, he then took them to small claims court and the judge was appalled at the Vector rep's use of false job ads to lure in people in the middle of a major regional recession.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

What dumb poo poo is he hawking?

I've shown a few people that Penn and Teller's Bullshit episode on MLMs. Those two seem to get through to the mouthbreathers out there that common sense generally cannot.

So if that moron you know watches it and still thinks it's his ticket to millions, he kinda deserves what he gets. Might as well direct him to get a CDL so he can drive a truck and spread the good word of his business to all the other dumbfuck truck drivers.
They're libertarians so that probably helps. Anyone else telling them that MLMs are stupid probably becomes a mean liberal who doesn't want you to have money. The John Oliver segment on MLMs is really good too.

My cousin got a job with CutCo and it led to a series of events that landed him in a burn center receiving a bunch of skin grafts.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

MLMs are interesting as gently caress to me. Just how disillusioned people get and how it consumes them. poo poo like this:




I feel bad for the people that are truly desperate, completely oblivious, and just trying to make an honest buck

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Casimir Radon posted:

They're libertarians so that probably helps. Anyone else telling them that MLMs are stupid probably becomes a mean liberal who doesn't want you to have money. The John Oliver segment on MLMs is really good too.

My cousin got a job with CutCo and it led to a series of events that landed him in a burn center receiving a bunch of skin grafts.

The John Oliver piece was good, but he strictly rules out explaining things to idiots because, "he ain't even no 'murican. Why wouldI listen to that bitchy little queen's lapdog?" I'm rather neutral on Penn and Teller. I know a lot of people hate Penn for reasons, but dumb people love loud people, and there's few louder than Penn Jillette.

That sounds like a quality story to tell at family gatherings.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Not trying to write chapters, but MLMs pretty well destroyed my family because of my father's ignorance. He kept moving from one to the next and my mother was over it all. He was being sneaky as gently caress about money and made it pretty clear to my mother he wasn't planning on being financially stable. I was all of about 12 at the time so I had no grasp of what was going on besides parents fighting over money and wound up siding with my dad. Of course, years later I realized what the gently caress was wrong about all of it and now I only speak to the dumb fat gently caress at funerals or when he turns up unexpectedly if I'm at my brother's place.

After more than 30 years of chasing dreams and his pyramid scheme millions, he's still driving a truck, living in a poo poo rental, and most of the family won't talk to him. And he's still dumping money into every new scheme that catches his eye. He's a fat waste of goddamn air and he will never learn. Just going to let the county throw him in a furnace when he dies and let my brother handle the nonexistant estate.

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot
But did he ever enlist

Suicide Watch
Sep 8, 2009
There's a lot wrong with multi-level marketing, but it's still a real business model. In undeveloped countries with poorly established supply chains, it's a viable way to handle distribution and marketing. There's a case study here, https://hbr.org/2016/09/how-one-startup-developed-a-sales-model-that-works-in-emerging-markets

It requires certain conditions, such as selling products that bring a real benefit to customers, rewarding not penalizing employees, and limiting expansion so salespeople aren't competing against each other for unsustainable growth. Granted, the likelihood of this happening seems pretty slim, so it's just probably better to call it a pyramid scheme.

Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

The John Oliver piece was good, but he strictly rules out explaining things to idiots because, "he ain't even no 'murican. Why wouldI listen to that bitchy little queen's lapdog?" I'm rather neutral on Penn and Teller. I know a lot of people hate Penn for reasons, but dumb people love loud people, and there's few louder than Penn Jillette.

That sounds like a quality story to tell at family gatherings.
I like Bullshit! a lot when I was a teenager and was dabbling with libertarian nonsense. Some of their stuff is good but a lot is pretty dumb.

They claimed in the mid-2000s that secondhand smoke wasn't actually a real thing long after denial of that fact became ridiculous. They smacktalked Jack LaLane in an episode where they promoted fat acceptance. Then they're main rebuttle in an episode about Walmart was to have models show their tits after taking off shirts with slogans like "They'll give you work if you're not a hippie jerk!" Which is kind of funny but misses the point.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

They could do a reality show about base housing MLM

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!
dad chat re: taxes

Did pretty well this year. my biggest return ever. :woof:

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

They could do a reality show about base housing MLM

* younique
*doTerra
*Scentsy
*Pampered Chef
*some purse with 21 in it i can't remember

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

is one of those sex toys

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

is one of those sex toys

I think you got a surefire winner here boyo. The time has come for sextoysRus decals on the back of SUV's.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

no like there is a sex toy/products MLM and a lot of base housing wives were into it

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Number Ten Cocks posted:

But did he ever enlist

Nope. He was never that breed of dumb. Neither were my chickenhawk uncle or the one sane one in the family.

I was the first army dumb in my family in decades.

TheQuietWilds
Sep 8, 2009

Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

no like there is a sex toy/products MLM and a lot of base housing wives were into it

Yeah I remember hearing that they were all garbage (of course) from a chick I was dating. It's definitely a thing.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
man scentsy was all the rage circa 2010 at fort polk

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

Nostalgia4Dogges posted:

is one of those sex toys

Those are the 'tupperware' parties.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

TheQuietWilds posted:

Yeah I remember hearing that they were all garbage (of course) from a chick I was dating. It's definitely a thing.

A bartender I worked with did those "Pleasure Parties" or whatever they're called. They carry their own Chinese crap, which is probably the same as the cheap poo poo big adult toy companies sell for budget range that the MLM marks way up, but they also sell the mid and high lines of dildos and poo poo.

I worked in a legit porn store for a 9 month spell, right after I got out of the army. You want to run a real racket? Open a porn shop on the interstate. Everything is marked way the gently caress up ($4 cost dvd was going for $60 on the shelf for specialty market and gay back then). There's still plenty of poor fuckers out there driving trucks. Put up a wifi network and you can eliminate booths and let the nasty goddamn truckers blow each other in their trucks instead of in the bathroom. Old farts will still buy magazines, the old end of gen x drivers will still buy dvds. And everyone, as well as their mother, will come in with giant sunglasses and hats on, to buy a dildo.

But there's nothing quite as bewildering as a 400 pound trucker walking in wearing a mumu and what must have been reinforced heels, reaking of cheap perfume. So maybe hire a 20-something to work the nightshift.

lite_sleepr
Jun 3, 2003

LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

A bartender I worked with did those "Pleasure Parties" or whatever they're called. They carry their own Chinese crap, which is probably the same as the cheap poo poo big adult toy companies sell for budget range that the MLM marks way up, but they also sell the mid and high lines of dildos and poo poo.

I worked in a legit porn store for a 9 month spell, right after I got out of the army. You want to run a real racket? Open a porn shop on the interstate. Everything is marked way the gently caress up ($4 cost dvd was going for $60 on the shelf for specialty market and gay back then). There's still plenty of poor fuckers out there driving trucks. Put up a wifi network and you can eliminate booths and let the nasty goddamn truckers blow each other in their trucks instead of in the bathroom. Old farts will still buy magazines, the old end of gen x drivers will still buy dvds. And everyone, as well as their mother, will come in with giant sunglasses and hats on, to buy a dildo.

But there's nothing quite as bewildering as a 400 pound trucker walking in wearing a mumu and what must have been reinforced heels, reaking of cheap perfume. So maybe hire a 20-something to work the nightshift.

:allears:

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Live a life rich in variety and adventure, and you'll always have a story to tell at the homeless shelter.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

A bartender I worked with did those "Pleasure Parties" or whatever they're called. They carry their own Chinese crap, which is probably the same as the cheap poo poo big adult toy companies sell for budget range that the MLM marks way up, but they also sell the mid and high lines of dildos and poo poo.

I worked in a legit porn store for a 9 month spell, right after I got out of the army. You want to run a real racket? Open a porn shop on the interstate. Everything is marked way the gently caress up ($4 cost dvd was going for $60 on the shelf for specialty market and gay back then). There's still plenty of poor fuckers out there driving trucks. Put up a wifi network and you can eliminate booths and let the nasty goddamn truckers blow each other in their trucks instead of in the bathroom. Old farts will still buy magazines, the old end of gen x drivers will still buy dvds. And everyone, as well as their mother, will come in with giant sunglasses and hats on, to buy a dildo.

But there's nothing quite as bewildering as a 400 pound trucker walking in wearing a mumu and what must have been reinforced heels, reaking of cheap perfume. So maybe hire a 20-something to work the nightshift.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
Large Marge is hot as gently caress

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Large Marge was tame compared to the weird fucks that would go into a Kentucky interstate adult store at 3am.

I did witness a double-ended dildo fight between college kids in the parking lot one night, because college kids....

The entirety of that interaction was less than five minutes, from arrival to purchase to dick fight in the lot.

It was a fun job though.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
was it the adult store that had the identical font and colors as a JESUS HATES SEX or whatever billboard on the opposite side of the free way on I65

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Black and yellow? Yes. A chain of adult stores. South of Elizabethtown.

It was a decade ago at this point. I worked at the highway store for a month because everyone there walked out one day and they paid me pretty decent as well as footed the hotel bill. I worked mostly in a city store for the same chain. No truck parking, and the numbers showed. City store would do $15k on a good week, highway store pulled $30k on a bad week, and near double that on a good one.

What money that's left to make in adult stores is solely on the side of the highway. Amazon has it locked down otherwise.

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
yeah black and yellow. I may have bought a dildo or something from y'all I dont remember what exactly

CHICKEN SHOES
Oct 4, 2002
Slippery Tilde
highway store was like in the same parking lot as a dead rest stop or something? I don't remember exactly, its been forever, it was skeevy as gently caress

edit: it was abandoned motel I think now

CHICKEN SHOES fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Feb 4, 2017

Number Ten Cocks
Feb 25, 2016

by zen death robot

LITERALLY SHAKING posted:

What money that's left to make in adult stores is solely on the side of the highway. Amazon has it locked down otherwise.

You'd expect eBay to be doing a healthy trade in fourth hand deployment pocket pussies.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
gently caress yeah it was skeevy.

It was an old gas station before a porn shop. The pumps were gone and we didn't have the jack booths. But it's a porn shop in the middle of buttfuck kentucky, the setting alone is uncomfortable for most people. Truckers don't give a gently caress though.

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

thank you internet pirates for leaking the founder tonight, i really want to see this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AX2uz2XYkbo

Nostalgia4Butts
Jun 1, 2006

WHERE MY HOSE DRINKERS AT

trip report: very good. super happy to see michael keaton made his comeback, he was gone too long after the batman bullshit

LtCol J. Krusinski
May 7, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
So I'm almost done with season 1 of "The Expanse.

:stare:

Holy poo poo this is good Sci-Fi. I hope they don't jump the shark with it being a SyFy original and all.

It's free on Amazon Prime streaming.

Totally gets a Shim recommendation.

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Professor Bling
Nov 12, 2008

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
They've got the book writers on and by all accounts the second season starts off strong. It's about the best thing going in serial sci-fi right now

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