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Arcsquad12 posted:Disney does realize that the Empire uses more than just Tie Fighters and Star Destroyers, right? Should at least have interceptors. The multiseated tie fighters in tfa were pretty groanworthy, though at least they're not doing the clone wars ship of the week thing.
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cptn_dr posted:On another subject entirely, apparently Barnes and Noble are going to be giving away two posters with the release of the third Aftermath novel. I like that the empire is just Pro-Human dickheads and doesnt give a gently caress about race/gender, because thats how i always viewed them. Arcsquad12 posted:Disney does realize that the Empire uses more than just Tie Fighters and Star Destroyers, right? eh its supposed to be propaganda. all the plebs know about is Star destroyers and ties. VaultAggie posted:Edit; Bloodlines is probably the best book written about Leia, in old canon or new. i keep hearing how good it is and its in cheap paper back so i dont have an excuse anymore. Wheat Loaf posted:New Rebellion is the one where they bomb the senate. Black Fleet is the one with the Yevetha. new rebellion is the one i have always wanted to read for some reason, even though its apparently complete poo poo.
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Feb 4, 2017 05:44
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Dapper_Swindler posted:
The New Rebellion is pretty dumb. The scheme the bad guy concocts is just incredibly stupid, as is how it gets resolved. I mainly wanted to read it because I understood Brakiss was in it, and I wanted to understand his history with Luke. As it turns out there is almost nothing there, and his appearance is as much of a wet fart as the rest of the book. None of that ever got any treatment in a book except some later mention that Brakiss would have been in the first class of the Jedi Academy but goes unmentioned in the trilogy just like Corran. Young Jedi Knights builds him up to be an important character, enough that you'd expect him of having some impact on the adult books, but he really doesn't. The Remnant was apparently really running out or ideas and talent at that point. They chose the most inconsequential guy in the galaxy to be the headmaster of the Sith version of DeVry. The whole episode was one of my earliest disappointments with the EU.
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Feb 4, 2017 06:26
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cptn_dr posted:On another subject entirely, apparently Barnes and Noble are going to be giving away two posters with the release of the third Aftermath novel. Lack of technical creativity and over-reliance on movie staple ships are a time-worn SW EU tradition! See also: same X-wings and MonCal cruisers everywhere.
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Feb 4, 2017 07:22
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Dapper_Swindler posted:I like that the empire is just Pro-Human dickheads and doesnt give a gently caress about race/gender, because thats how i always viewed them. Wasn't the Empire also officially sexist for a long time in the EU? I remember that being one thing about Darla that was treated a small a big deal; she became an admiral despite the Empire's institutional sexism so she must very a very good commander. Of course, later on they revealed she suffered brain damage and became an admiral because she was sleeping with quote:new rebellion is the one i have always wanted to read for some reason, even though its apparently complete poo poo. It's one of the ones that's pretty bad but I remember liking a lot when I read it.
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Feb 4, 2017 07:51
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Wasn't new Rebellion the one with the bad guy who looked like Emperor Zurg from Buzz Lightyear?
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Feb 4, 2017 08:06
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In Soldier for the Empire Mon Mothma tells Jan that Kyle will be retrieving the Death Star plans and not her. The reason being that she doesn't have the option of blending in, because Palpatine hates women almost as much as aliens.
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Feb 4, 2017 08:09
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Wheat Loaf posted:Wasn't the Empire also officially sexist for a long time in the EU? I remember that being one thing about Darla that was treated a small a big deal; she became an admiral despite the Empire's institutional sexism so she must very a very good commander. Of course, later on they revealed she suffered brain damage and became an admiral because she was sleeping with To be fair that's a recon for her being built up as an unstoppable genius and yet coming across as a complete loving idiot
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Feb 4, 2017 08:10
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Arcsquad12 posted:Wasn't new Rebellion the one with the bad guy who looked like Emperor Zurg from Buzz Lightyear?  Yes. That would be Kueller. If I remember right the book only states that he wears some sort of deaths head mask that he thinks makes him look scary. But at some point an author got a hold of it and ran it into the ground. At least the cover just has a skull on it, next to the standard copied head poses, and some other borrowed elements. At least it's painted, I'd take this ahead of the bad photoshopped garbaged we get now any day.  A similiar thing happened with Nil Spaar. At no point does he do anything with eyeballs, but I guess somebody decided it really pulled things together. 
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Feb 4, 2017 08:18
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I really miss painted covers for paperbacks. The Japanese covers for NJO were fantastic.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I really miss painted covers for paperbacks. The Japanese covers for NJO were fantastic. I decided to go through the gallery of these covers and I completely forgot that there was a whole subplot in the NJO about Lando making loving Terminators.
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Feb 4, 2017 13:42
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Rochallor posted:I decided to go through the gallery of these covers and I completely forgot that there was a whole subplot in the NJO about Lando making loving Terminators. I liked the bit about how he modeled them on the body structure of the Yuuzhan Vong specifically to piss them off
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Feb 4, 2017 13:49
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Wheat Loaf posted:Wasn't the Empire also officially sexist for a long time in the EU? I remember that being one thing about Darla that was treated a small a big deal; she became an admiral despite the Empire's institutional sexism so she must very a very good commander. Of course, later on they revealed she suffered brain damage and became an admiral because she was sleeping with she wasn't loving just any admiral, she was loving tarkin, and he liked her enough(or wanted her away from his wife) that he put her in charge of a bunch of autistic dickhead scientists building another death star and a magical mary sue ship in the middle of the 20 million black holes. Casimir Radon posted:
looking back on it(and it wasn't intentional i am sure) but kuller is basically a proto kylo renn. somewhat powerful in some technical areas but basically a giant emo baby with a scary mask who gets his rear end punked.
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Feb 4, 2017 22:07
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Dapper_Swindler posted:she wasn't loving just any admiral, she was loving tarkin, and he liked her enough(or wanted her away from his wife) that he put her in charge of a bunch of autistic dickhead scientists building another death star and a magical mary sue ship in the middle of the 20 million black holes. Yeah, I was typing that on my phone and hosed up.
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Feb 4, 2017 22:35
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Wheat Loaf posted:Yeah, I was typing that on my phone and hosed up. i know that feeling. but anyway. i am excited for 8. i like the characters and i want to see where the story goes. i just hope its not a carbon copy of ESB. i liked rogue one enough. but if it wern't a star wars movie, i wouldn't have given a poo poo about it. krennic,andor, the pilot, and donny yen were the only interesting characters.
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Feb 4, 2017 23:47
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Dapper_Swindler posted:looking back on it(and it wasn't intentional i am sure) but kuller is basically a proto kylo renn. somewhat powerful in some technical areas but basically a giant emo baby with a scary mask who gets his rear end punked. We should do a read along of one of the lesser known EU books. I know there was one that covered all the really bad ones but I feel like The New Rebellion probably got lost in the shuffle since it's not Darksaber-bad.
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Feb 5, 2017 04:03
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Dapper_Swindler posted:looking back on it(and it wasn't intentional i am sure) but kuller is basically a proto kylo renn. somewhat powerful in some technical areas but basically a giant emo baby with a scary mask who gets his rear end punked. There are so many things about TFA that made me think "I know this wasn't intentional but this is pretty much just a different name for something the EU did."
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Feb 5, 2017 05:14
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i know that feeling. So, whats the buzz about Ep 8? I've heard that Luke was going to be killed off, and Leia sidelined via coma until 9, but Carrie Fisher's death has caused a re-write.
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Feb 5, 2017 16:31
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Last i heard, Leia was a substantial part of 8, and was going to be even moreso in 9
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Feb 5, 2017 16:45
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Wheat Loaf posted:Wasn't the Empire also officially sexist for a long time in the EU? Yes. That bit seems to have been quietly dropped once the movies started casting women extras as Imperials - there seems to have been a tacit retcon that there were always plenty of women in the Imperial military, please ignore Lucas only casting white dudes as extras for the Empire in the old movies.
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Feb 6, 2017 04:26
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Cythereal posted:Yes. That bit seems to have been quietly dropped once the movies started casting women extras as Imperials - there seems to have been a tacit retcon that there were always plenty of women in the Imperial military, please ignore Lucas only casting white dudes as extras for the Empire in the old movies. Were there women Imperials (officers) in Rogue One? I feel like they are being fairly careful about the characterization of the OT-era Empire, at least in the main live action movies.
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Feb 6, 2017 05:52
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Cythereal posted:Yes. That bit seems to have been quietly dropped once the movies started casting women extras as Imperials - there seems to have been a tacit retcon that there were always plenty of women in the Imperial military, please ignore Lucas only casting white dudes as extras for the Empire in the old movies. I was under the impression, to rise, they had to be exceptional.
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Canemacar posted:So, whats the buzz about Ep 8? I've heard that Luke was going to be killed off, and Leia sidelined via coma until 9, but Carrie Fisher's death has caused a re-write. At this point we know very little about Ep 8, apart from what jivjov said. So most anything you've read, including the Luke and Leia stuff you just mentioned, is just Internet speculation.
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FYI, the Clone Wars show is leaving Netflix on March 7. The movie will still be on, though!VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Were there women Imperials (officers) in Rogue One? I feel like they are being fairly careful about the characterization of the OT-era Empire, at least in the main live action movies. Nope, also as far as I can tell no non-white men, either.
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Chairman Capone posted:FYI, the Clone Wars show is leaving Netflix on March 7. The movie will still be on, though! The only thing was nobody at the Scarif base batting an eye at Jyn walking around in the scanner tech suit, I guess. But even then Cassian was the one to dress in the officer uniform.
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Chairman Capone posted:FYI, the Clone Wars show is leaving Netflix on March 7. The movie will still be on, though!
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Feb 6, 2017 18:53
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The last season's best episodes involved Jar Jar played against straight man mace windu
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Feb 6, 2017 18:56
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Arcsquad12 posted:The last season's best episodes involved Jar Jar played against straight man mace windu
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Yoda fighting a gollum wannabe was the worst because they had already done a gollum ripoff at the start of the arc with syfo dias, and another gollum tipoff with maul even earlier. The theater mask aliens were also loving stupid. Darth Bane looked neat at least, but calling Korriban Moraband was groan worthy.
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VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE posted:Should at least have interceptors. The multiseated tie fighters in tfa were pretty groanworthy, though at least they're not doing the clone wars ship of the week thing. Maybe Disney has a thing against TIE Interceptors. Which is lovely because they're cool. My pet theory is that JJ didn't use them because they were from ROTJ and not ANH or ESB and thus are less "iconic". TFA was really disappointing if you're like me and really like spaceships and dogfights. The only fighters they had were X-Wings and bog standard TIEs, and there was no capital ship action at all.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Maybe Disney has a thing against TIE Interceptors. Which is lovely because they're cool. My pet theory is that JJ didn't use them because they were from ROTJ and not ANH or ESB and thus are less "iconic". I'm sure there will be some major space battles in 9.
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I think MakingStarWars actually just recently had a source indicate there will be TIE Interceptors in Episode 8. It really is sad to go through the Art of TFA book and look at all the really neat concepts for ships and characters that got thrown out in favor of "copy ANH".
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Chairman Capone posted:I think MakingStarWars actually just recently had a source indicate there will be TIE Interceptors in Episode 8. I really hope like some goon previously said above that now the risk is over, we'll see some more original stuff in the next film including writing and vehicles.
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Episode VIII interceptors mean we'll get a TIE/info in X-Wing which is all I crave
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TIE Defender is all I ask. It's been on Rebels, they can surely manage it for the movies as well. Actually, I'd love it if the anthology movies went for the deep cuts and had stuff like Lancer frigates and Strike-class cruisers.
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Feb 7, 2017 19:43
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Tie Avenger fools. Screw those over gunned triple wings
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Wheat Loaf posted:TIE Defender is all I ask. I think it will happen. If you had told me back in 2003 after first playing KOTOR that one of the Hammerhead ships in it would not only appear in a Star Wars movie, but play a major role in its climactic space battle, I would never have believed you.
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The TIE Avenger is extremely my poo poo.
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Feb 7, 2017 20:39
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Or those droid TIE fighters from Dark Empire where they'd removed the pilots' brains and wired them directly into the ships.
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Droid fighters are bad cause you can't do pilot pov shots. Unless you do terminator vision. Then they're cool.
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