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AceClown posted:I can't see UD getting hit, it requires you to be in 2 colours and costs 3, however I'd have never had Reflector down for the banhammer either so I could be very wrong. UD is only as ubiquitous as it is because it has an upside over Murder, there aren't really any other kill spells that match it, and playing 4 colors has a relatively small deckbuilding cost in this meta even for aggro.
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Feb 4, 2017 23:44
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Marvel decks were kind of a paper tiger at PT Kaladesh too, I'm not gonna proclaim the death of Copycat just yet.
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Feb 4, 2017 23:46
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En Fuego posted:I'd back an actual league with belts (for each format, tag-team would be 2HG, etc, and over the top commentators. Same. I know the community is completely toxic but the fighting game community seems to embrace the over top commentary and the players really go all out, a friend has shown me videos of people slamming drinks to get hyped up or ripping off their shirts / belts / lanyards and the crowd goes ballistic. AceClown posted:First time I went to a pro snooker game it blew my mind they do this (minus the signs) When I went to Scotland for two weeks on a hiking snooker was ALWAYS on television at restaurants / bars. Looked pretty intense production wise and the following it had was crazy mossyfisk posted:I would like both this, and proper sports commentary that isn't just describing the game since viewers can't see the cards.
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Feb 4, 2017 23:49
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Fighting games are actually exciting to watch though, some fat white dude ripping his shirt off to some garbage Slipknot song and then sitting down and playing with scraps of paper and saying as little as possible to avoid judge calls would be funny a few times then just tragic.
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Feb 4, 2017 23:56
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black potus posted:...some fat ... dude ripping his shirt off to some garbage Slipknot song and then sitting down and playing with scraps of paper and saying as little as possible ... would be funny a few times then just tragic. but enough about your Friday nights
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Dehtraen posted:Agreed. Magic needs more "LIGHTNING HELIX?!?" or whatever the card was type moments more blind flips on to the table for game winning / losing type moments I agree, they should bring back the Miracle mechanic. Maybe a variation where you can cast the spell off the top of your deck without drawing it if it's revealed to Counterbalance.
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Feb 5, 2017 00:03
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black potus posted:Fighting games are actually exciting to watch though, some fat white dude ripping his shirt off to some garbage Slipknot song and then sitting down and playing with scraps of paper and saying as little as possible to avoid judge calls would be funny a few times then just tragic. It's about editing, really.
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Imagine if players could issue challenges to other players at the PT (or leading up to the PT) --- Turtenwald challenging Shota in a format of Shota's choosing. Players come out to promos and the format is revealed at the last minute. That sounds pretty great to me...
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Dehtraen posted:Imagine if players could issue challenges to other players at the PT (or leading up to the PT) --- Turtenwald challenging Shota in a format of Shota's choosing. Players come out to promos and the format is revealed at the last minute. That sounds pretty great to me... "Shota has chosen.... BOOSTER DRAFT!!!" Queue six other players showing up to fill out a draft pod. In a cage. Additional grudge matches that weren't on the card appear.
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Feb 5, 2017 00:39
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Olothreutes posted:"Shota has chosen.... BOOSTER DRAFT!!!" "But bah gawd while Shota was in the tank Owen's teammates have replaced Shota's modern masters pack with a Homelands booster. Is the judge blind?!?"
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Olothreutes posted:"Shota has chosen.... BOOSTER DRAFT!!!" Team booster draft with Shota bringing some heavy hitters from his team and Owen bringing the rest of the Peach Garden Oath with him would be completely amazing and you know it
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Feb 5, 2017 01:23
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Seriously might be the most boring Pro Tour I've ever seen, including Kaladesh Aetherworks
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Procrastinator posted:but enough about your Friday nights Bitch I do that all weekend!
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It really seems like Heart of Kiran is overachieving. It gets hit by Fatal Push, Natural State, and Fragmentize just among 1CMC options. It might be that Mardu Vehicles is the most efficient deck that can run Fragmentize and Fatal Push (plus Release the Gremlins, which is 2x in some sideboards), so the result is zero sum.
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80s James Hetfield posted:Seriously might be the most boring Pro Tour I've ever seen, including Kaladesh Aetherworks I don't like the incessant whining we partake in this thread, but I have to agree.
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Rinkles posted:I don't like the incessant whining we partake in this thread, but I have to agree. Well, at least I will be able to sell my gideons for $$ in the next few weeks. Standard still a garbage fire. Shocking news.
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If these jeskai decks stuck to the original style with a poo poo ton of creature removal instead of the combo things would have played out differently. Did any of them have main deck stasis snare or at least blessed alliance to deal with gideons?
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DangerDongs posted:If these jeskai decks stuck to the original style with a poo poo ton of creature removal instead of the combo things would have played out differently. Were they possibly tuned to beat the mirror and the UB control decks that I heard have a good matchup against them?
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araeris posted:It really seems like Heart of Kiran is overachieving. It gets hit by Fatal Push, Natural State, and Fragmentize just among 1CMC options. What happened, far as I can tell, is that Mardu was tuned entirely to beat BG and Copycat, and nothing was tuned to beat Mardu. The problem here is that mana is secretly getting too good again, allowing a 3C aggro deck to splash blue for countermagic. This is only gonna get worse when BFZ doesn't rotate out. 80s James Hetfield posted:Seriously might be the most boring Pro Tour I've ever seen, including Kaladesh Aetherworks I agree.
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6 of the 8 decks tommorow being mardu is certainly gonna be a drag, prob still gonna watch it tho for god knows what reason at least the matchs will be fast
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oh wait thats at 3 in the morning for me, gently caress that
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BJPaskoff posted:Were they possibly tuned to beat the mirror and the UB control decks that I heard have a good matchup against them? Stasis snares are still really good in the mirror, and do you tune so far for U/B and the mirror that even B/G runs you over? If they were worried about decks like U/B being brought to wreck them that they have to shift so far to handle them knowing aggro would run them over they chose a poor deck to bring. "CERTIFIED ROTTEN The following includes every deck type featuring at least seven players and a Day Two rate lower than the overall 62.6 percent: Archetype # Day 1 #Day 2 Conversion Jeskai Copy Cat Control 72 26 36.1 Four-Color Copy Cat 25 14 56.0 Blue-Red Control 15 8 53.3 Grixis Control 14 6 42.9 Grixis Improvise 7 2 28.6" Noted that blue-red control lacks good sweepers. Some people were playing Esper control. Shame they should the same match ups game after game. G/W tokens also made a presence. https://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptaer/pro-tour-aether-revolt-day-two-standard-metagame-breakdown-2017-02
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One_Wing posted:"But bah gawd while Shota was in the tank Owen's teammates have replaced Shota's modern masters pack with a Homelands booster. Is the judge blind?!?" Guffawed out loud on a bus. Quality post!
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DangerDongs posted:Stasis snares are still really good in the mirror, and do you tune so far for U/B and the mirror that even B/G runs you over? Keep in mind that the "obvious good deck" is more likely to be played by the less committed players that don't have as much time to work on predicting the format, don't have a fantastic team to test with, and so on. So you'd naturally expect a lower day 2 conversion rate than for decks which require more testing to be willing to commit to, and hence are more likely to have top-tier pilots. I don't think copycat gets "run over" by vehicles etc. so much as it's slightly disfavoured (or at least the pro tour lists are), and the skill gap does the rest. We'll see how the format shakes out in the next few weeks once people figure out the metagame and how to adapt to it.
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Fingers McLongDong posted:Top 8 consists of 6 mardu vehicles decks and 31/32 possible scrapheap scroungers. Ban that. I think the totals are: 31/32 Scrounger 28/32 Unlicensed Disintegration (only not played in the GB deck) 26/32 Heart of Kiran GeneX posted:What happened, far as I can tell, is that Mardu was tuned entirely to beat BG and Copycat, and nothing was tuned to beat Mardu. Well you have every deck able to play 8 City of Brass if they want to, and 4 of them don't even cost life. mandatory lesbian posted:oh wait thats at 3 in the morning for me, gently caress that I'm not sure counter-programming the super bowl would have been a good idea either. GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 04:47 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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I probably had my worst magic tournament of all time today at Regionals. 0-4, 0-8. For some reason I played Infect and my matchups were Abzan, Burn, Abzan CoCo and Abzan. Feels bad man... Modern sucks.
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mcmagic posted:I probably had my world magic tournament of all time today at Regionals. 0-4, 0-8. For some reason I played Infect and my matchups were Abzan, Burn, Abzan CoCo and Abzan. Feels bad man... Modern sucks. Modern does indeed suck. But you played infect so you deserve what you got.
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mcmagic posted:I probably had my world magic tournament of all time today at Regionals. 0-4, 0-8. For some reason I played Infect and my matchups were Abzan, Burn, Abzan CoCo and Abzan. Feels bad man... Modern sucks. What was your list? Not sure what Infect looks like post-Probe but probably not as good as it was. VV Also this.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:Modern does indeed suck. This, except modern is cool and good.
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GoutPatrol posted:Playing Infect now was your first mistake. Yeah... I mean I have no friggin idea what is good in modern now. C-Euro posted:What was your list? Not sure what Infect looks like post-Probe but probably not as good as it was. You don't want it and i'm not going to actively poo poo up this thread by posting my 0-4, 0-8 infect list. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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ThePeavstenator posted:modern is cool and good.
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Hey guys there's a standard tourny at the LGS next week for a box. I don't play standard outside of draft but they've got decks I can rent for $5. What's the deck to play? Mardu? BG?
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myDad posted:Hey guys there's a standard tourny at the LGS next week for a box. I don't play standard outside of draft but they've got decks I can rent for $5. What's the deck to play? Mardu? BG? well apparently 6/8 decks in the pt t8 were mardu vehicles so probably whatever beats that
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mcmagic posted:Yeah... I mean I have no friggin idea what is good in modern now. Infect is still cool and good and can win games on T2. But you have to call the meta for it now. And those matchups are real bad. I think I'm gonna go with bant spirits over bogles for the upcoming GP though.
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Elyv posted:well apparently 6/8 decks in the pt t8 were mardu vehicles so probably whatever beats that Midrange usually beats aggro so BG Delirium?? Thanks
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Mezzanon posted:Infect is still cool and good and can win games on T2. But you have to call the meta for it now. And those matchups are real bad. I got horribly unlucky with matchups. There were a million Titanshift decks in the room and I didn't get paired against any of them.
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