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so far my only issues have been ridiculous desync and some fps drop when driving Really Fast but €60 for tom clancy's ubisoft open world again feels rather silly so far kind of like the gunplay. popping heads feels rather rewarding, as it should. so far it reminds me of a much wonkier mgs5 also maybe try not playing on an easy bake oven if you're experiencing "bad optimization" 
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How is the shooting? Is it like The Division where you can actually hit things from 3rd person or do you always need to pull the gun up to your face (first person) for any kind of accuracy?
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Feb 5, 2017 02:19
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Brutakas posted:How is the shooting? Is it like The Division where you can actually hit things from 3rd person or do you always need to pull the gun up to your face (first person) for any kind of accuracy? Shooting's not terrible, but the controls suck compared to The Division. Also, bullet drop and travel time is hugely exaggerated, especially on sniper rifles. I think there is a sort of cover system but it felt almost nonexistent.
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Feb 5, 2017 02:29
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Shooting is probably one of the few areas of the game I would consider remotely acceptable but it's undermined by the weird floaty aiming (at least on the Xbone) and the absolutely awful character movement and halfassed cover system. The whole game feels like they cribbed some ideas from a few other games (MGS 5, Mercenaries 2, Far Cry, Splinter Cell and Ghost Recon: Future Soldier come to mind) and put them together in a really mediocre package. Vatek fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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Feb 5, 2017 02:31
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The strange part of the shooting for me , was the 3rd person aim point is slightly off from the aiming down the sights So you'll have your cross hair on something in 3rd. Switch to sights and be aiming 3 inches to the right Very strange
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Feb 5, 2017 03:06
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Vatek posted:Shooting is probably one of the few areas of the game I would consider remotely acceptable but it's undermined by the weird floaty aiming (at least on the Xbone) and the absolutely awful character movement and halfassed cover system. well 3 of those games/franchises are made by the same publisher/company/people. but yeah i get your meaning. its far from bad, but it feels very ubisoft with some mercs1/mgs vibes. i am still gonna get it at this point because i like this sorta game(slowly pick away at giant enemy factions, probably why i like mafia 3 alot) plus i want the santa muerte statue that will probably look like rear end. the game runs fine on the ps4 which is nice. my only issue is how empty the world feels at times.
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Feb 5, 2017 03:25
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I wanted to like this game but I'm not feeling it. Really got into Division but the story mode in this beta holds absolutely zero interest. I would compare this to something "open world" like Far Cry 2 I guess. I see the same thing happening to me with this that happened in FC2. Boring same-y missions dotted around the map that isn't actually all that interesting outside of "wow this is big", connected with same-y encounters.
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Feb 5, 2017 04:18
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Martytoof posted:I wanted to like this game but I'm not feeling it. Really got into Division but the story mode in this beta holds absolutely zero interest. I would compare this to something "open world" like Far Cry 2 I guess. I see the same thing happening to me with this that happened in FC2. Boring same-y missions dotted around the map that isn't actually all that interesting outside of "wow this is big", connected with same-y encounters. i can see that. i assume it gets better once it branchs out. but who knows. i am hoping the fix the technical poo poo at least.
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Feb 5, 2017 04:50
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Tried some single player in this game and I kinda hate it. The order wheel absolutely sucks, the AI is kinda bad, and I just started noticing all kinds of kinda janky poo poo about this game. First off the explosions look like total crap. It seems completely random as to what is destructible and can be shot through and what can't. And why can't you pitch a helicopter down to fire the guns without losing altitude? That seems like a major oversight. Also I tried to take over an outpost and I killed everyone, tagged all the supplies, and freed the rebels. It then said I had two minigun emplacements left to take care of but...they were invincible? Explosions did nothing to them, bullets went through them, and there were no enemies manning the so I could walk up and use them. What am I missing? But yeah the fun in this game seems to come entirely through co-op.
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Feb 5, 2017 04:56
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This was a day one buy for me, but now that I've played it I can't see any reason to put more time into it. I actually enjoy the shooting, the vehicles don't bug me, but other than doing exactly the same thing over and over again with long drives in-between the only carrot is the crappy weird skill system. The rare moment when your team is totally in sync and you take a base perfectly is amazing, but it's not amazing enough to put up with the other 99% of the game.  Someone tell me I'm wrong please, I really want to love this game.
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Feb 5, 2017 05:03
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I just hope the other areas have more enemy density. Holding that FOB base from Dad gets hard/fun when you have a good dozen or so onto you.
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Feb 5, 2017 05:03
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Dinurth posted:This was a day one buy for me, but now that I've played it I can't see any reason to put more time into it. I actually enjoy the shooting, the vehicles don't bug me, but other than doing exactly the same thing over and over again with long drives in-between the only carrot is the crappy weird skill system. I guess the beta is only 1/22nd of the whole game?
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Feb 5, 2017 05:06
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Yodzilla posted:Also I tried to take over an outpost and I killed everyone, tagged all the supplies, and freed the rebels. It then said I had two minigun emplacements left to take care of but...they were invincible? Explosions did nothing to them, bullets went through them, and there were no enemies manning the so I could walk up and use them. What am I missing? After spending more time playing the beta I find myself liking it more to the point of wanting to buy it. Switching AA from Temporal to FXAA, turning down shadow details and turning off godrays sorted out my performance related issues, upping the difficulty eased some of my gameplay concerns and I am the kind of person who enjoys the "here's a big rear end open map, here are the bases and here are your tools, go knock yourself out" type of game.
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Feb 5, 2017 05:51
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Dinurth posted:This was a day one buy for me, but now that I've played it I can't see any reason to put more time into it. I actually enjoy the shooting, the vehicles don't bug me, but other than doing exactly the same thing over and over again with long drives in-between the only carrot is the crappy weird skill system. For what it's worth there are fast travel points and I think you can also fast travel with your binoculars?
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Feb 5, 2017 05:55
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Croccers posted:I just hope the other areas have more enemy density. Holding that FOB base from Dad gets hard/fun when you have a good dozen or so onto you. this. to be fair, its the very beginning of the game, but i ended up fighting more enemies with random patrols and check points then at the main missions. again i assume the full thing has more. Yodzilla posted:Tried some single player in this game and I kinda hate it. The order wheel absolutely sucks, the AI is kinda bad, and I just started noticing all kinds of kinda janky poo poo about this game. how do you even give squad orders on consoles and i still havent figured out how to turn on loving subtitles. they are on the main menu at the beginning asking for languages but i haven't found how to actually turn them on.
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Feb 5, 2017 06:00
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Dapper_Swindler posted:how do you even give squad orders on consoles Hold right shoulder but make sure the left stick is centered or it's wonky(at least on PC), use the left stick to pick and A to confirm. It's a super bad interface on a controller. You use the D-pad if you're in a vehicle for basic "shoot dudes/don't shoot dudes". This game also needs emotes and jump and roll buttons. gently caress being super seriousness Ubisoft and let your hair down a bit. Obsurveyor fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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Feb 5, 2017 06:22
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They've got a month to kick this piece of poo poo out the door? God drat why do these animations and sounds play like a loving prototype Someday someone will mod MGS5 for co-op 
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Feb 5, 2017 06:31
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I came out of these last two Ubi beta weekends feeling the opposite way about these games than I expected. I will likely be buying For Honor but this feels underwhelming. I think it might be a good idea to wait and see if they improve it over time ie The Division. There's fun to be had with 4-player co-op shenanigans but not enough to make me want to see more.
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Feb 5, 2017 06:32
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explosivo posted:I came out of these last two Ubi beta weekends feeling the opposite way about these games than I expected. I will likely be buying For Honor but this feels underwhelming. I think it might be a good idea to wait and see if they improve it over time ie The Division. There's fun to be had with 4-player co-op shenanigans but not enough to make me want to see more. i assume they will, ubi is pretty good about patching and adding poo poo to their games post launch. my "hope" is that this is a older build of the game or restrained somewhat for beta purposes.
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Feb 5, 2017 06:36
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Dapper_Swindler posted:i assume they will, ubi is pretty good about patching and adding poo poo to their games post launch. my "hope" is that this is a older build of the game or restrained somewhat for beta purposes. I feel like every beta, the company claims it's a wicked old build to explain away all the glitches and then when the game launches a large amount of those glitches are still there. Heck, even battlefield one still has the glitch where you can't shoot if you get revived until you switch weapons, a glitch that led to them telling the people in the e3 multiplayer stream to just not bother reviving each other to avoid showing that glitch so even when developers know something's wrong, they might not even fix them before launch and beyond.
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Feb 5, 2017 06:54
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Got a rare upgrade/hood ornament on this Humvee wannabe: Dapper_Swindler posted:i assume they will, ubi is pretty good about patching and adding poo poo to their games post launch. my "hope" is that this is a older build of the game or restrained somewhat for beta purposes. Unless they're literally flushing the bug reports, there's no way in hell a company would do this and offer a bug reporting tool.
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Feb 5, 2017 07:08
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V for Vegans posted:I feel like every beta, the company claims it's a wicked old build to explain away all the glitches and then when the game launches a large amount of those glitches are still there. Heck, even battlefield one still has the glitch where you can't shoot if you get revived until you switch weapons, a glitch that led to them telling the people in the e3 multiplayer stream to just not bother reviving each other to avoid showing that glitch so even when developers know something's wrong, they might not even fix them before launch and beyond. true but battlefield 1 kicks rear end and they fixed most of the problems. i am sure they are gonna fix some here, but yeah your probaly right. either way i finally beat it. + co-op is great + shooting is fun and has some good weight to it. +the setting is nice and the story while cliche seems interesting enough(i dig the Clancy game bullshit.) +vehicles are better then i would thought they would be. + world is pretty and decently explorable. + i liked the radio stations. - squad commands are stupidly complex controller wise - friendly AI is dumb as gently caress - enemy AI is only slightly better. -enemy numbers are weird some times. -not enough side activities in the beta(i am sure there are more in the full game even if they end up repetitive) - Where the gently caress are the subtitles.
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Feb 5, 2017 07:58
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How the hell do you shoot from a trunk
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Feb 5, 2017 08:15
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Dapper_Swindler posted:- Where the gently caress are the subtitles. As for the game, went from not being all that interested to at least interested enough to buy it day one. I'm strangely drawn to gun porn and mediocre checklist bullshit, which is exactly what this game will deliver. I get that people were expecting a much more serious game than just The Division mashed into Far Cry 4, with vehicle handling courtesy of Watch_Dogs but eh, it seems kinda neat.
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Feb 5, 2017 08:41
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Mediocrity Goggles posted:In the Language section. Keeping up with the trend of games having no drat consistency whatsoever on where they put their subtitle toggle. It's consistent with The Division, I believe  ...now, those two may be it, but hey! V for Vegans posted:I feel like every beta, the company claims it's a wicked old build to explain away all the glitches and then when the game launches a large amount of those glitches are still there. it almost certainly is an old build that was frozen quite some time ago before being worked up in parallel for public release; but that's not really the point - the question is what have they managed to do with the main fork in the meantime. Sometimes that's "not much" and sometimes it's a lot. I see a lot of potential here and I hope they've hit some of the performance and general UI/input bugs but who knows?
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Feb 5, 2017 08:52
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I was hoping this game would be as interesting as the Division. It is not. To me it feels like generic Ubi World gameplay, only now 4 people have to suffer through it, the group AI is so poo poo only coop is enjoyable, the PC controls are clunky and the setting is not really interesting, plus a cover system seems non-existent? The Division had a much more interesting story in a more tightly packed "universe", this is just wide open nothing with missions sprinkled on it.
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Feb 5, 2017 11:37
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Finished the last bits remaining on the map. Overall, somewhat disappointed (but, unfortunately, not really surprised) with the majority of vehicle controls on PC, gun sounds, various faction AIs, NPC team AI, indestructible and bulletproof wire fences and soccer nets. Character movement and gunplay feel floaty, but heck, I say the same about Warframe and like literally every person I know enjoys playing it. I don't find interface to be particularly well thought through, and I don't think there's much virtue to be found in variety of gameplay and the storyline. Hence, in the absence of necessity to do video game busywork, I plan to to check back on game after the release to see if this was or was not a really old build we ran to test hardware compatibility/servers/something, and that may salvage the game for co-op with friends. I really doubt anything will improve though, so with my 4 person shooter game group this one most likely will go down as "classic Ubisoft, check back in a year to buy for 15 euro to take a break from fun games".
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Feb 5, 2017 12:02
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The muzzle flashes in this look like they're from a PS2 game
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Feb 5, 2017 12:41
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Antoine Silvere posted:The muzzle flashes in this look like they're from a PS2 game
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Feb 5, 2017 12:42
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I honestly can't tell if that's just me or not, since I run the game on lowest possible settings. Even on the highest ones they look bad
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Feb 5, 2017 12:45
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I think the muzzle flashes might be a deliberate thing so you have something easy to aim at against busy backgrounds.
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Feb 5, 2017 12:45
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Antoine Silvere posted:Even on the highest ones they look bad The effects in general look like hot garbage even on High on the PC. mellowjournalism posted:Someday someone will mod MGS5 for co-op It's loving amazing how much better MGSV looks, plays, and feels than this game. They're similar is so many ways and the co-op here is a big plus but man does the rest feel kinda bad. ZombyDog posted:Nothing. When the base is occupied by hostiles the fixed guns are a tactical concern, so you want to keep the bad guys of them, but once the bad guys are dead, you can ignore them. So can you not actually fully "complete" an outpost?
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Feb 5, 2017 14:58
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I honestly can't tell if that's just me or not, since I run the game on lowest possible settings. I have to run the game fairly low as well and the rain impacting on ground effect looks like it's right out of some SNES game.
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Feb 5, 2017 16:28
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Randler posted:I think the muzzle flashes might be a deliberate thing so you have something easy to aim at against busy backgrounds.
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Feb 5, 2017 16:34
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I thought about it again some more, and I think I know what my biggest gripe is overall The setting is supposed to be something different, Bolivia, not really been done like this before. But you're not really there in the world, it feels like you're just floating through the world (fast travel doesn't help that), and its all so dull and plastic feeling to me Ugh
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Feb 5, 2017 16:43
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Apparently each player in a co-op session has their own difficulty settings, so players on Ghost may get shredded where someone on Easy will just rambo through poo poo.
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Feb 5, 2017 16:47
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This really is unbearably poo poo and boring in singleplayer, the squad interface shouldn't use the loving mouse wheel and then have a confirmation click to issue commands... it should be a radial menu that you just hover and release the radial button. On top of the fact that squad ai is so so stupid and pretty much won't do anything unless you tell them to... including just passively following you(?!). This game will live or die by how much support Ubi gives the co-op players and I think from the marketing that they're aware of that. It's one of the more fun co-op games I've played in a long time so it's got my money just for that really, just sucks that it's going to be terrible if you just want to zone out and play by yourself.
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Feb 5, 2017 17:04
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Sappo569 posted:I thought about it again some more, and I think I know what my biggest gripe is overall Yeah the area in the beta is indistinguishable from any recent Far Cry or Just Cause. There's mountains and shanties and lots of half build towns for some reason. Actually honestly other games do a better job of giving areas personality and feel lived in. This feels like "here be bad guys and a couple civilians that wander around to accidentally get shot or run over." Even though I had fun with this game in co-op I think it might get shredded in reviews. Single player is garbo.
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Feb 5, 2017 17:17
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Yodzilla posted:Actually honestly other games do a better job of giving areas personality and feel lived in. This feels like "here be bad guys and a couple civilians that wander around to accidentally get shot or run over." I'm enjoying some of the little things, like people walking alongside the road like they're used to cars passing by, instead of just every single one freaking out when a car gets near them like every other game out there. Also, enemy vehicles fleeing at realistic speeds/driving instead of turning into the perfect driver that is a pain in the rear end to keep up with.
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Also is it me or was the VA really, really flat? like the main character was reading a telephone book and your agency contact wasn't that much better?
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