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KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!
Man I miss everything I swear

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HGH
Dec 20, 2011

Ryuga Death posted:

Majima gets great side stories and because he doesn't have to be stoic stiff face man, he has great reactions and comments about everything.

Ryuga Death posted:

Yeah, don't get me wrong. Stoic stiff face reactions is great, too. Though it seems like both Majima and Kiryu suffer from the same obliviousness when it comes to women in this game.
Parent: How did you meet my daughter?
Majima's inner thought process: ....animeeeeee

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

RandallODim posted:

I dunno, being stoic stiff face man about things can also be a great reaction.

I feel like right about the time I'm a little tired of Majima or Kiryu and start thinking "I wish the game would switch to the other guy for a bit of a change," the game switches to the other guy. I've found it to be really well balanced in that way.

(Not counting the week I spent on maxing out the Cabaret because I couldn't stop playing that stupid subgame)

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.

StarkRavingMad posted:

(Not counting the week I spent on maxing out the Cabaret because I couldn't stop playing that stupid subgame)

Speaking of which, do you get the same stupid amounts of money that you get with Kiryu? I'm only making 20-25 million a night just after beating Mars.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Fat Samurai posted:

Speaking of which, do you get the same stupid amounts of money that you get with Kiryu? I'm only making 20-25 million a night just after beating Mars.

You make less than Kiryu but Majima's costs are a little lower to compensate and each club you beat gives you a big cash infusion the first time.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Fat Samurai posted:

Speaking of which, do you get the same stupid amounts of money that you get with Kiryu? I'm only making 20-25 million a night just after beating Mars.

I can make like 100 million on an average night, but you get like several billion each time you beat one of the upper rival battles.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!
Kiryu can bankroll himself and Majima pretty well, money starts to snowball if you have the shrine bonus for beating Mr.Shakedown. Get some money, lose to Shakedown, then beat him. Starts to add up kinda quick.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
Watching digital foundry's video on Kiwami, drat I can't wait.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

Discendo Vox posted:

In terms of the degree of romanticization, it's worth bearing the practices of the organizations in mind, not just how individuals are depicted. I say this as a big fan of other elements of the series; it's basically a big PR victory for organized crime in Japan. It's unlikely that many of the gravure models used for the phone card/videos stuff in the series entered that business voluntarily. Yakuza syndicates are a major factor in the meat factory of Japanese idol industry, from child pop singers on through pornography. It's a mechanism for wringing maximum value from women as sex objects.

To be fair. It isnt like the mob over here invests in video games and geeky entertainment the only dollars they want are the Tourist dollars from building bar and grills for game night. Plus GTA cemented the mood of all crime drama sandbox as treating everyone as horrible people to justify why your character may go and gun down civies who we would punch square in the jaw if we met one

Another point against RGG is none of the playable are actually part of the organization. They have ties but you never do a direct job for the Tojo or Omi to get paid. And even among the nicer Yaks they still are ruthless bastards as you see with Nikkyo Consortium.

8-bit Miniboss
May 24, 2005

CORPO COPS CAME FOR MY :filez:
Finished! 67:06 with 62.30% completion.

A spectacular game to begin 2017 for me.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
People keep talking about a billion yen and it's supposed to be impressive, but the loading screen is telling me I've snorted 40 times more to power up Kiryu.

HGH
Dec 20, 2011
Clearly the ancient drunken gaijin arts of investing into yourself are a well kept secret.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Is there any reason to mess around doing side things while Kiryu (spoilers for chapter 13-ish or so, not sure) is in Sotenburi to get Makoto?

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

The CP system is super good and a great way to encourage you do so a bunch of side stuff in order to gain some sick passive buffs. I regretted putting points in before I unlocked the business side activities but it was very easy to get enough CP to max out the business section by just loving around and having fun.

JohnnyTreachery
Dec 7, 2000

Fat Samurai posted:

People keep talking about a billion yen and it's supposed to be impressive, but the loading screen is telling me I've snorted 40 times more to power up Kiryu.

suddenly the 10 billion that caused the (first) millenium tower explosion doesn't seem nearly as impressive or relevant

Jack-Off Lantern
Mar 2, 2012

Well, In Yakuza Land, losing a non cut scene fight means going broke, not everyone can hoard that much cash.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
Those people should just buy 4 Zap guns and go hunting giant men.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Yeah, Zap Guns kind of make Mr. Shakedown irrelevant. I bought about 10 and just cycle through em, haven't finished Chapter 5 yet but Kiryu's just about maxed out on everything.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Do real estate profits come from my share of each area or each individual store? Once I've got 100% share in an area do I still need to go around looking for shops I didn't buy?

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

StarkRavingMad posted:

Do real estate profits come from my share of each area or each individual store? Once I've got 100% share in an area do I still need to go around looking for shops I didn't buy?

Stores. You want all the stores and you want them all at s rank for maximum profits.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly
Share only matters for progressing the story, all of your profit is from the stores.

If you go to Business in the pause menu it should tell you which properties you own and don't own.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
Okay, thanks. That's kind of a pain.

(Edit) actually, looking at it, there's not as many stores in each area as I thought, it's not too bad.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Tonight after work I'm going to be taking over the gambling district, which means I finally get to recruit Nugget :getin:

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

StarkRavingMad posted:

Do real estate profits come from my share of each area or each individual store? Once I've got 100% share in an area do I still need to go around looking for shops I didn't buy?

Share kicks back a little extra to your revenue every period (I think the formula is that it gives a Share/10 % bonus, i.e. 100% = 10% bonus)

it also controls the progress you have to completing the district.
30% - Marina tells you a bit about the distrct's king.
60% - The king challenges you to a minigame, with a 10% stake for grabs (if you win you get an extra 10%, if you lose, you lose 10%). The minigame varies depending on area. Leisure is Karaoke, Electronics is Outrun, Pleasure is Telephone Club, Gambling is JCC, and Media is Disco. (This does mean you need to do Substory 18 and unlock the JCC).
90% you get challeneged to a fight and can take over the remainder of the territory. Taking it over means that you will no longer be challenged to Money Battles or have thugs stop payments. Managers can still boost district profits, and Securtity can still intervene in the district if you fight.

At 60% and 90% you are also locked out of collecting profits until you deal with the challenge.

There are 7 to 9 business to buy in each district, and you can get the names of them from the pause screen. The remaining shops in the district must be acquired by making friends with the owner or attendant.

Leisure has 2 such shops, the Sushi shop at the bottom of the map (give the owner fish, you can even give him stuff from the password shop) and the convenience store closest to the real estate office (buy stuff).
Electronics has Sega Land (play Outrun against the attendant in the back).
Gambling has Mach Bowl (bowl enough and then bowl a turkey when the challenge starts).
Media has Pocket Racer Arena (win all the cup races).
There is no friendly shop in Pleasure district.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Feb 5, 2017

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

The out run quest with luka at sega land was so good. The mixed messaging was next level.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
So, how many total chapters there are in the game? I am in chapter 6 and I thought the game was starting to wind down, on the Kiryu side at least. Going by some of the earlier posts, that is obviously not the case.

I could try to burn through the rest of the mini game side quests and business, but I think I am ready to progress through the story.

Fat Samurai
Feb 16, 2011

To go quickly is foolish. To go slowly is prudent. Not to go; that is wisdom.
17 chapters, I think.

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"
To expound a bit on real estate shares if you don't have a manager assigned you'll be getting 90% of your areas profits naturally (like if your manager was -2). The 10% of shares you get for being 100% will cover that so you'll save money not needing a manager or security.

Also gently caress Club Moon, man. They get dickery meter so fast.

Zaa Boogie fucked around with this message at 01:44 on Feb 6, 2017

abagofcheetos
Oct 29, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
I'm getting towards the end of the game I think, what does/doesn't carry over from premium game to a new game plus? Trying to figure out if I should do most of my grinding before the end or wait until premium adventure.

atholbrose
Feb 28, 2001

Splish!

Zaggitz posted:

Tonight after work I'm going to be taking over the gambling district, which means I finally get to recruit Nugget :getin:

You can recruit Nugget before that just by raising your friendship meter with the bowling lady.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!
Man I have to get 74 CP to unlock the rest of the stuff for Kiryu. Sitting on 337 billion yen now.

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

atholbrose posted:

You can recruit Nugget before that just by raising your friendship meter with the bowling lady.

Nugget really isn't a good manager though

Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"
So I did the number crunching. To max out Kiryu's 4th style it'll take 29,450,520,000,000 yen. So double that for Majima but I'm not sure if all the upgrade paths for him are the same. but it's doable. Already up to nearly 2 trillion with Kiryu alone! :eng101:

Zaa Boogie fucked around with this message at 04:41 on Feb 6, 2017

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

exploded mummy posted:

Nugget really isn't a good manager though

Get out of this thread. :colbert:

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

exploded mummy posted:

Nugget really isn't a good manager though

Yeah Nugget is the worst one unfortunately

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

tap my mountain posted:

Yeah Nugget is the worst one unfortunately

Isn't papillon the worst because he stays at like -3 for the first couple cycles?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
The telephone minigame is miserable and somewhat embarrassing stuff and I bid it good day.

KingShiro
Jan 10, 2008

EH?!?!?!

Zaa Boogie posted:

So I did the number crunching. To max out Kiryu's 4th style it'll take 29,450,520,000,000 yen. So double that for Majin a but I'm not sure if all the upgrade paths for him are the same. but it's doable. Already up to nearly 2 trillion with Kiryu alone! :eng101:

That's...alot

Oxxidation posted:

The telephone minigame is miserable and somewhat embarrassing stuff and I bid it good day.

Only problem I have with it is trying to hold a charge because joysticks are finicky. Have to do it though for substories.

tap my mountain
Jan 1, 2009

I'm the quick and the deadly

CharlestonJew posted:

Isn't papillon the worst because he stays at like -3 for the first couple cycles?

Oh yeah I forgot about him cause he's so bad

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Zaa Boogie
Sep 13, 2007

"Suckle on this receptacle!"

KingShiro posted:

That's...alot


Only problem I have with it is trying to hold a charge because joysticks are finicky. Have to do it though for substories.

It's a lot but easy enough to do with Mr. Shakedown. Especially if you go eat in some places and do other stuff after you lose as the amount he has on him goes up. Which will stack with the CP bonus with Kiryu.

And the telephone mini game is and pain. Main thing to remember is what gals are tied with the background lady. That way you know when you should hang up.

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