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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:"superdelegates" - no conscious, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have got to bring them to heel.
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Concerned Citizen posted:we already had party elders overturn the popular will of the party once. in 1968. and the result was a riot and chaos in the convention. today, it would be a hundred times worse. which is why had bernie won, the superdelegates wouldn't have blocked him at this point it is a vestige...unless the winner is a fascist, in which case it's a vital tool to still have around. the way they were wielded as a weapon to boost perceptions of hillary's inevitability by the dnc was the problem, not their very existence Jazerus has issued a correction as of 01:09 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:"superdelegates" - no conscious, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have got to bring them to heel.
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Superdelegates are probably more trouble than they're worth though I have to admit that Trump Insurance sounds pretty drat good at the moment. And naah, I like Webb (though he's probably in the wrong party) but Lawrence Lessig was also (sort of) running for president and you can't tell me he was a better candidate than Hillary.
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poo poo, innocent abuelita actually said black children have to be brought to heel because they have no conscience or empathy 
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like how do you think thats a good candidate to run in the year of our lord 2016, oh and additionally shes actively being investigated by the FBI. I'm serious Maddy, GIVE ME THAT DOLLAR
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im with HER im WITH her IM with her
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:like how do you think thats a good candidate to run in the year of our lord 2016, oh and additionally shes actively being investigated by the FBI. I dunno but she overwhelmingly won black voters so I guess they know more than you about how offended they should be about a 25 year old quote in support of a bill that St. Bernard even voted for
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Tight Booty Shorts posted:
can we all bond over how amusing that was because lol
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:"superdelegates" - no conscious, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have got to bring them to heel.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQ4PYVATBac
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zegermans posted:I dunno but she overwhelmingly won black voters so I guess they know more than you about how offended they should be about a 25 year old quote in support of a bill that St. Bernard even voted for Do you have any sources on why they voted for her so heavily? Because I remember reading that a lot of them didnt think Bernie could win but Hillary would and they werent willing to take a risk on a worse candidate, on which point I will be more than happy to point out that those people were wrong
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they are a monolith
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Comrade Cheggorsky posted:"superdelegates" - no conscious, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have got to bring them to heel. i made this exact same joke like 3 months ago or something lol
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though it probably wasnt as well executed
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That would have worked as an ad.
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I'm curious who looks at fight song and sensual pantsuit anthem and can look me in the eye and say "these people aren't stupid enough to use the superdelegates to override the popular vote"
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GlyphGryph posted:Do you have any sources on why they voted for her so heavily? i don't think there's any single reason "why." the cnn exit of south carolina is probably handy here, since it was early and only 35% white: http://www.cnn.com/election/primaries/polls/sc/Dem here's a few highlights.  -electability was the bottom ranked issue for SC dems, by far  -sanders wasn't popular among sc democratic primary voters as a whole, with only 58% saying they'd be satisified with him as nominee  -sanders didn't do well on race relations question either. overall, it seems clear that sanders problem wasn't really electability. he just was not particularly popular among black voters and his message simply did not connect with that demo in the way it did with white voters. i will point out that black voters in the south skew older and more conservative, which might be a factor.
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Concerned Citizen posted:-electability was the bottom ranked issue for SC dems, by far Well they got exactly what they wanted.
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zegermans posted:I dunno but she overwhelmingly won black voters so I guess they know more than you about how offended they should be about a 25 year old quote in support of a bill that St. Bernard even voted for So many black voters went overwhelmingly for her that Trump is now president
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There should be one superdelegate per state, assigned by essay contest or something. or just gently caress it and let the democratic party run on democratic principles.
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https://twitter.com/sgrant525/status/828427801955074049 I don't even know who's real and who's trolling anymore.
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Nanomashoes posted:Well they got exactly what they wanted. 
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Concerned Citizen posted:here's a few highlights. Can you explain this to me, because I can not make heads or tails of those whatever-they-areas. What does "top candidate quality"? mean? Why is the "key" a list of percentages? What does "1st" mean? Why does the page linked indicate grey is republican and blue is dem? Is there a way to see what the actual questions were? Maybe that would help. I can not parse this, please help. Why does CNN always have such terrible poll result visualizations, I have never had a problem reading, like, PPP results, but every time someone links to CNN polls I am immediately lost. Is there someone that isn't CNN that did exit polls I could possible read?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah.
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GlyphGryph posted:Can you explain this to me, because I can not make heads or tails of those whatever-they-areas. What does "top candidate quality"? mean? Why is the "key" a list of percentages? What does "1st" mean? Why does the page linked indicate grey is republican and blue is dem? Is there a way to see what the actual questions were? Maybe that would help. bro all that matters is that abuelita has higher percentages in all these important sounding categories so therefore she's gonna win in 2020
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GlyphGryph posted:Can you explain this to me, because I can not make heads or tails of those whatever-they-areas. What does "top candidate quality"? mean? Why is the "key" a list of percentages? What does "1st" mean? Why does the page linked indicate grey is republican and blue is dem? Is there a way to see what the actual questions were? Maybe that would help. 12% rated electability the highest, of those 12%, 82% went Clinton, 18% Bernie, and so on.
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Thoguh posted:12% rated electability the highest, of those 12%, 82% went Clinton, 18% Bernie, and so on. this, also grey isn't republican. it just means you have the dem results active. if you click the R, it takes you to the republican exit poll
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Hahahahahaha did Mook get a job at the Atlanta Falcons?
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This is twice within 3 months I've pulled for someone/something I completely despise only to be brutally disappointed.
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Oh Snapple! posted:This is twice within 3 months I've pulled for someone/something I completely despise only to be brutally disappointed. life comes at you fast
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I'm a dolphins fan so like tom brady's very existence has been a personal hell
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Jazerus posted:if you want to eliminate superdelegates entirely you're being short-sighted No no no. Super delegates would have kept Bernie out if he actually won the states. Trump couldn't have won the democratic primary that is bullshit. gently caress this anti democratic poo poo. It's a sure fire way to never move the party forward. The Kingfish has issued a correction as of 05:24 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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It's totally fine to get rid of superdelegates, who cares, but anyone who harps on them due to the undemocratic nature of their existence but has utterly nothing to say about the existence of caucuses is a hypocritical piece of poo poo
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Caucuses are like 100X more democratic than superdelegates. You can't even compare the two.
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i'm more democratic than you
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