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iospace posted:Sports Broadcasting Thread: International House of Hot Takes
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Feb 5, 2017 01:06
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the international house of hot takes may have an even greater proportion of old men than the international house of pancakes
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Feb 5, 2017 01:07
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Spoeank posted:Plus they have a natural rapport that every dumb debate show doesn't see and doesn't try. They just see two guys yelling at each other = ratings and go from there. It gets really painful and annoying to hear them try to talk politics. It's not that I don't think politics and sports shouldn't be mixed. (by their very nature they're intertwined in some ways), it's just I kinda question the sort of idiots that are screaming "KOBE IS BETTER THAN LEBRON" moving onto discuss...I don't know...Tim Tebow's stance on abortion. Like "Outside the Lines" is able to do this perfectly because they bring on people who study this sort of stuff for a living, write books on it, etc. They also do some investigative work to back up their claims and are in general a good show. Very much agreed in regards to Wilbon, Kornheiser. They do have the chemistry, and at times HAD interesting conversations which we never really saw in years previous. It's something I truly haven't seen replicated in that regard.
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Feb 5, 2017 02:45
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iospace posted:Didn't someone here said someone noticed their arguments in the WaPo break room, decided to put them in front of a camera, and told them to cut the swearing? Basically, yeah, it's outlined over a few pages in Those Guys Have All The Fun. Kornheiser jokes that if the show had been on HBO no one in the Washington Post would have even noticed they were gone cause they'd be cursing, and as it was some people didn't realize they were on TV at first anyway. But as mentioned, a big difference is those guys had offices next to each other for twenty years before PTI started, so they had a rapport that a lot of other shoes just substitute with louder yelling and hotter/dumber takes.
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Feb 5, 2017 16:56
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fartknocker posted:Basically, yeah, it's outlined over a few pages in Those Guys Have All The Fun. Kornheiser jokes that if the show had been on HBO no one in the Washington Post would have even noticed they were gone cause they'd be cursing, and as it was some people didn't realize they were on TV at first anyway. And at least with ATH if someone gives a dumb take they get muted for it. Then you have Fox deciding "OH, LET'S TAKE SKIP AND SHANNON AND HAVE THEM YELL AT EACH OTHER  ," despite the fact that First Take is at least beating them (and I'll take ESPN over FOX any day).Also ESPN has Highly Questionable, which always has some interesting stuff on it. Also Dan Le Betard and Bomani Jones facepalming at Le Batard's dad.
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Feb 5, 2017 17:21
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The problem with PTI today is Michael Wilbon started believing his own poo poo. Then he turned into a pearl clutching old fogey, which is really bizarre and sad to see sometimes. Around the Horn is still watchable, but it 100% depends on the guests. Woody Paige, Frank Isola, and Bill Plaschke are horrid hot take machines, but even they can be saved by Pable Torre, Israel Guitierrez, Sarah Spain, Bomani Jones, and Michael Smith. I think Kevin Blackistone has become the worst panelist on the show though. Dude is slowly morphing into Bob Costas with a fraction of the journalistic ability. And HQ is loving great. edit: Woody Paige is so terrible he ran Snoop Dogg off of ATH once (although it seems pretty staged): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHSPc-PbBuA
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Feb 5, 2017 19:42
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Frank Isola is basically every stereotype of a smarmy New York sportswriter you can think of
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Feb 5, 2017 19:59
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Benne posted:Frank Isola is basically every stereotype of a smarmy New York sportswriter you can think of I call him "Plaschke East".
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Feb 5, 2017 20:04
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The funny thing about PTI is that when it started Kornheiser was the curmudgeon and Wilbon was the more contemporary voice. But over time they have slowly switched roles where now Wilbon is the geezer with backwards views and Kornheiser is much more receptive to new ways of thinking. There should be a name for this type of switch amongst longterm teams. Also happens in the X-Files.
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Feb 5, 2017 20:20
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BWV posted:There should be a name for this type of switch amongst longterm teams. Also happens in the X-Files. I believe it's called a "Freaky Friday"
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Feb 5, 2017 20:45
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I love Kornheiser's
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Feb 5, 2017 21:39
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https://twitter.com/SportsFunhouse/status/828356204640555010 Never change Mike 
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Feb 5, 2017 22:40
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Who is going to be the most insufferable tomorrow?
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Feb 6, 2017 06:01
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http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/j...dium=socialflow Harlan of course oozes excellence, but who's the BBC radio guy? Something bizarrely awesome about having a Brit call American Football. Reminds me of opting for hearing Leigh Diffey (an aussie) call the last NASCAR race of the season over the  guys.
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Feb 6, 2017 06:02
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iospace posted:Who is going to be the most insufferable tomorrow? https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless/status/828404378990022656 I donno. But this is hilarious.
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Feb 6, 2017 06:02
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/j...dium=socialflow the BBC guy is Darren Fletcher who's day job is usually BT Sport's second soccer announcer after Ian Darke, but he's been doing commentary and presenting on the NFL ever since the BBC got the free to air part of the contract
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Feb 6, 2017 18:42
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BWV posted:The funny thing about PTI is that when it started Kornheiser was the curmudgeon and Wilbon was the more contemporary voice. But over time they have slowly switched roles where now Wilbon is the geezer with backwards views and Kornheiser is much more receptive to new ways of thinking. it's shocking since i regularly listen to kornheiser's podcast and he basically gushes over 60's pop but he at least has heard of barstool sad that wilbon has an irrational old man hatred of millenials/analytics
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Feb 6, 2017 20:13
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https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/828815561047957504 Speaking of Isola? LeBron called his rear end out.
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Feb 7, 2017 05:15
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:the BBC guy is Darren Fletcher who's day job is usually BT Sport's second soccer announcer after Ian Darke, but he's been doing commentary and presenting on the NFL ever since the BBC got the free to air part of the contract I had to check it was not ex United Midfielder Darren Fletcher. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 06:03 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Feb 7, 2017 06:01
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/NBAonTNT/status/828815561047957504 I called Isola an idiot once on twitter and he DM'ed me calling me a wannabe New Yorker
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Feb 8, 2017 04:06
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Mike Adamle, of Northwestern, NFL, American Gladiators, and WWE fame, is suffering dementia/CTE something fierce 
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Feb 8, 2017 23:14
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DJExile posted:Mike Adamle, of Northwestern, NFL, American Gladiators, and WWE fame, is suffering dementia/CTE something fierce God damnit, this hurts a lot. This will be me in 10 to 15 years, too. I'm already seeing small signs at 35 and it is only going to get worse. gently caress. Don't let you kids play heavy contact sports.
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Feb 8, 2017 23:20
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Nelly is better than Shannon Sharpe https://twitter.com/omg_itskhairy/status/829445838124498944
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Feb 9, 2017 05:24
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Pvt. Public posted:God damnit, this hurts a lot. This will be me in 10 to 15 years, too. I'm already seeing small signs at 35 and it is only going to get worse. gently caress. The time I got concussed so badly I couldn't see color for several hours seems like a much less funny story with every passing year :/
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Feb 9, 2017 05:26
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MourningView posted:The time I got concussed so badly I couldn't see color for several hours seems like a much less funny story with every passing year :/ I had one once where I cried uncontrollably for 4 hours straight and that's when I decided to stop playing football. It was too late, though, by that point. I, too, thought that story was funny until the former NFL pro suicide rate started happening more regularly and I realized what was going on. I keep wondering how much longer I'm going to be able to enjoy watching college football, hockey, and rugby. I turned my back on the NFL a couple years ago once it came to light how awfully they were handling the concussion problem and I don't really miss it. I do find myself watching less and less each season. College football will probably be the next to go, I think. The game is getting closer to the NFL's levels of hits and the NCAA's actions on roughly everything make me constantly furious so that seems like the next step.
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Feb 9, 2017 05:47
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this came a little sooner than i thought https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/829681485712125952 e: in fact, seems like costas is now going to work on a very reduced schedule, period https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/09/business/media/bob-costas-nbc-olympics-host.html?_r=0&referer= Vertical Lime fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Feb 9, 2017 14:24
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Vertical Lime posted:this came a little sooner than i thought As he's a leprechaun you forget how old Costas really is (64)
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Feb 9, 2017 19:00
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Vertical Lime posted:this came a little sooner than i thought You could tell that Costas really couldn't give a gently caress about football/hockey/most of anything and really was only keeping up appearances for poo poo like The Kentucky Derby and the Olympics. In the end, Costas has always been a baseball purist and maybe the lightened load @NBC releases him to continue more in-depth work with MLB Network, which might have always been his end game. I certainly will not miss his Costasmentaries on SNF with hot topics like "The Plight of Uppity Black Athletes" and "America & Gun Control" etc.
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Feb 10, 2017 12:57
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Yeah Costas said he wants to basically be now what Tom Brokaw is but to the sports world. What that means is he'll show up every once in a while at major events to give an opinion nobody asked for and most folks will go "oh hey, he's still around. How 'bout that?"
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Feb 10, 2017 15:06
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Pvt. Public posted:I had one once where I cried uncontrollably for 4 hours straight and that's when I decided to stop playing football. It was too late, though, by that point. I, too, thought that story was funny until the former NFL pro suicide rate started happening more regularly and I realized what was going on. Have you considered moving into something safer like mma or pro wrestling
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Feb 10, 2017 18:50
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So, surprised this didn't get mentioned, but "O.J.: Made in America" got nominated for the long form documentary Oscar. Honestly, there's two athletes in my mind that stand out as capable of having a miniseries about them. OJ is one, Ali is the other.
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Feb 11, 2017 19:06
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Pvt. Public posted:I had one once where I cried uncontrollably for 4 hours straight and that's when I decided to stop playing football. It was too late, though, by that point. I, too, thought that story was funny until the former NFL pro suicide rate started happening more regularly and I realized what was going on. drat man. That's brutal. I hope you're ok. My "gently caress this" moment was in Jayvee football when I got knocked the gently caress out twice in one week -- once on the receiving end of a crackback block, the other doing the head-to-head drill against a 300 pound Nose Tackle. Those were my first experiences with concussion-related memory loss and it scared me. NFL is dead to me. I definitely can't stomach NCAA Football anymore, can't handling watching the hits + exploited labor + horrible scandals like Baylor. I have no idea how all of these analysts, including both former players and sports writers who should know better, can still embrace the sport. I guess $$$$$$$$$$$$ talks.
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Feb 11, 2017 20:41
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iospace posted:So, surprised this didn't get mentioned, but "O.J.: Made in America" got nominated for the long form documentary Oscar. You could do Tiger, though you're probably about five to ten years away from being able to do the story properly. As a kid/amateur, his initial pro debut/15 stroke Masters win, most dominant athlete, the cheating, the aftermath.
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Feb 11, 2017 21:17
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iospace posted:So, surprised this didn't get mentioned, but "O.J.: Made in America" got nominated for the long form documentary Oscar. I didn't even know it was eligible for an Oscar, being a TV miniseries and all, but apparently they did a small theater tour to meet Academy criteria.
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Feb 11, 2017 21:29
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That was a drat good documentary, I wasn't going to watch it at first having lived through the OJ stuff everyday back in the 90s. I accidently turned on the premier, and was hooked. Great interviews, editing, getting all sides and key people. The bluntness and candidness was great too, I'll stop cause I could really praise a lot more about it.
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Feb 12, 2017 03:21
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It was indeed released in theaters as a slightly longer version before they aired it on TV
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Feb 12, 2017 04:40
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I never saw those crime scene photos before that documentary. Were they only shown in court before that? Like, I don't even remember 90s shock websites like ogrish or rotten or whatever having those.
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Feb 12, 2017 06:28
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STORY TIME: As a number of you know I work part-time for a local TV station and over the weekend I was on color commentary for BGSU's 50th anniversary hockey game. Returning to his alma mater as well was Doc Emrick to join the student radio braodcast of the game. In keeping with his first ever broadcast, Doc was on color for the first and third period, and got to do play-by-play for the second. Before the game I got a chance to chat with him as I was grabbing some rosters and game notes, and he could not have been a nicer guy. He's worked at every level of broadcast from local to national and clearly hasn't forgotten his roots. He spoke really highly of any colleges and trade schools that have broadcast education. As it turns out, the kid who's been calling BG Falcons games this year (who thought someone was pranking him when Doc texted him a month ago wanting to go over name pronunciations) not only got the experience of a lifetime getting to call a game with a legend, but it was his birthday as well. Doc is an awesome guy, and love or hate his calls he's a legit legend in broadcasting and getting even 5 minutes to shoot the poo poo with him was cool as hell. Keep doin' you, Doc. 
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Feb 13, 2017 00:18
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iospace posted:So, surprised this didn't get mentioned, but "O.J.: Made in America" got nominated for the long form documentary Oscar. Ken Burns Jackie Robinson documentary is similar to the OJ one in length and is terrific.
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Feb 13, 2017 03:30
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That's awesome DJ. I'm glad he was actually a nice guy since meeting people like that doesn't always work.
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Feb 13, 2017 04:26
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