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LORD OF BOOTY posted:The majority of webcomics are astoundingly awful. I have read precisely one print comic that even managed to approach the depths I've seen webcomics sink to, and it was Mark Millar's The Unfunnies (do not read The Unfunnies). There are a few good webcomics like Achewood, Cucumber Quest, Unsounded, Gunnerkrigg Court, etc, and they tend to get a lot of play, but the general fervor over webcomics died when everyone realized they were 99% garbage. Yes, webcomics are bad. There are a very few exceptions notable for their art, story, or sometimes both. The overwhelming majority wouldn't be able to get any kind of publishing deal. The ones that do are usually worth following.
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Some of the largest threads here are dedicated to certain webcomics. I'll never open them, but the Batman thread wishes it was one of those.
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Feb 5, 2017 09:04
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The two largest are Homestuck and Gunnerkrigg. loff.
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Feb 5, 2017 11:25
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At least Gunnerkrigg has better art than copy pasting sprites over text logs. (I'm going to add Dr McNinja to the list of good ones. I just ended a few weeks ago. You could start with "Volume 2" which is when he started coloring his art.)
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I just read Kennel Block Blues. It's weird and dark. There are several levels of cartoon abstraction going on: 1) It's about dogs and cats at a pound... 2) ...who are portrayed as anthropomorphic prisoners in a gritty, high security prison... 3) ...and the main character sometimes slips into daydreams where everything looks like an old-school Disney cartoon. There are musical numbers, which don't really work, because you have to imagine your own melody. The art style was cool:    There's some great parts later on where his fantasy sequences become rather twisted and creepy:  The corruption of his happy-place dreams could be seen as a depiction of depression, I guess. But they don't explore that too much. It was pretty fun, if super grim at times; but overall it didn't really come together for me. Could really have used a couple more chapters -- as it is, it's a quick read, with only 4 issues collected into one volume. I'd still say check it out if you're a fan of anthropomorphic characters in comics, though. Hedrigall fucked around with this message at 13:55 on Feb 5, 2017 |
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Feb 5, 2017 13:47
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Webcomic Talk: Kill Six Billion Demons is cool as hell and the amount of effort the artist puts into it is out of sight. 
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Dr. Hurt posted:Webcomic Talk: Coincidentally enough, Kill Six Billion Demons is partially collected in an Image trade (comic is ongoing). I still need to buy a copy so I can share it with people who won't read digital comics.
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Feb 5, 2017 19:35
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While we're on the topic of webcomics, I just read my way through On a Sunbeam by Tillie Walden, after Jeff Lemire recommended it on twitter. It's got beautiful art and coloring, I love the world she created, and the characters are great. It's got a really dreamy feel to it, but it's got a good story so it doesn't get too bogged down. 
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Feb 5, 2017 21:31
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There are definitely a double crap-ton of bad webcomics--low cost of entry and all that. There's a very definite difference in emphasis in some webcomics though, in that they're going for something more like the 'funnies' format, and YMMV on how much you enjoy that kind of thing but they are aiming for and (when good) accomplish something different from serials. Wonderella is in a weird space between the two, doing long-page stories without an extended continuity. Oglaf varies between shorter and longer stories and one-off jokes, and manages to be one of the few explicit sex-joke webcomics that is (mostly) not creepy. Aside from the piles of crap, there's also a lot of serial webcomics that just peter out--motivation fades and there's not much money in it, the comic dies.
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Feb 5, 2017 22:05
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the webcomic Back seems pretty good to me
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Feb 5, 2017 22:27
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Yeah, my point was less that there's no good webcomics ever, just that the general furor over them died down when people realized the wide bulk were poo poo like VGCats, Questionable Content, Sluggy, and C-A-D. e: Serialized webcomics kind of occupy the same space that stuff like Omaha the Cat Dancer and Albedo did in the 80s and 90s. Sometimes, you get Legend of Galactic Heroes with anthropomorphic rabbits or something equally bonkers and awesome; most of the time, you get a mediocre soap opera with bizarre amounts of pseudo-porn (or worse), because protection from editorial guidelines is generally a curse unless you have a really good idea. WeedlordGoku69 fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Feb 6, 2017 17:32
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Does Panel Syndicate count as webcomics? Because The Private Eye is loving fantastic.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:44
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I don't consider something only readable via purchase (even if it's $0 name your own price) to be a webcomic, so much as a comic that's distributed digital-first. I grant this is a thin technicality, and there's probably lots of actual webcomics that fit this, too. If I was really going to define it: Webcomic: distributed page/strip at a time as completed (ideally with a regular schedule), may or may not have a serial story Digital-first comic: distributed in large chunks at a time, more likely has a serial story, at least within a single book/volume/issue Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 20:42 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Feb 6, 2017 20:39
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Apologies if this has been asked before, but how do you guys recommend ordering the Hellboy / BPRD / off-shoot comics? I was doing them in sequential order, based off of date then arc (151 - Abe Sapien 9-11; 152 - BPRD 115-119; 153 - Abe Sapien 12; etc) but the release schedule makes things difficult. Is there a good sequential list out there that I can follow, or should I just organize them by title and not worry too much about callbacks to other issues? (i.e. "See Hellboy #14.)
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berzerkmonkey posted:Apologies if this has been asked before, but how do you guys recommend ordering the Hellboy / BPRD / off-shoot comics? I was doing them in sequential order, based off of date then arc (151 - Abe Sapien 9-11; 152 - BPRD 115-119; 153 - Abe Sapien 12; etc) but the release schedule makes things difficult. I forget how I specifically went through the older volumes, but you can probably trust these guys.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:I forget how I specifically went through the older volumes, but you can probably trust these guys. The downside of this is that they organize in collections, and don't reference individual stories - for instance "Abe Sapien - Lost Lives" one shot isn't on the list and I don't know where it appears in their list (though I assume it's in one of the collections.) EDIT: I guess I could find out what individual stories are in the collections and fudge it for organizational purposes... berzerkmonkey fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Feb 6, 2017 21:53
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Yeah, my point was less that there's no good webcomics ever, just that the general furor over them died down when people realized the wide bulk were poo poo like VGCats, Questionable Content, Sluggy, and C-A-D. I like VG Cats, does that make me a bad person? :\
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berzerkmonkey posted:The downside of this is that they organize in collections, and don't reference individual stories - for instance "Abe Sapien - Lost Lives" one shot isn't on the list and I don't know where it appears in their list (though I assume it's in one of the collections.) I just used the Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellboy_Universe
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Someone help me out, what was that L.A. Confidential-y comic? Not super old or anything, it featured like a murdered Hollywood starlet and evil pedophile studio heads and a drunk stupid buddy and all that sort of thing.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Someone help me out, what was that L.A. Confidential-y comic? Not super old or anything, it featured like a murdered Hollywood starlet and evil pedophile studio heads and a drunk stupid buddy and all that sort of thing. The Fade Out by Ed Brubaker
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Feb 7, 2017 22:37
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Angel city
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Slackerish posted:The Fade Out by Ed Brubaker
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Feb 7, 2017 22:41
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You could also try Matt Fraction's Satellite Sam, which is seedy 50's TV industry murder mystery stuff.
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Feb 7, 2017 23:53
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Teenage Fansub posted:You could also try Matt Fraction's Satellite Sam, which is seedy 50's TV industry murder mystery stuff. I read the first few issues of Satellite Sam, and really could just not get into it, even though I loved the premise. I don't remember the specifics but I remember there being way too many threads and the characters weren't really compelling. Which is sad because I generally like Fraction.
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I've never read Criminal but my impression is that it's gritty crime noir, am I way off?
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zoux posted:I've never read Criminal but my impression is that it's gritty crime noir, am I way off? You're not wrong but every arc is a different story with different characters.
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I read a few of the Scott Snyder books recommended and holy hell was Severed creepy. The Wake started off strongly but lost me during the second half.
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RevKrule posted:You're not wrong but every arc is a different story with different characters. But all existing in the same universe and they all build the world in minor ways. e) or in some cases like Lawless and The Sinners, featuring the same main character.
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Meredith Finch is the one that wrote an awful Wonder Woman run, right? She has a new book coming out called Rose that looks a bit interesting, but I'm not sure about the writer.
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Hahah, I had Uber Invasion bought and sitting in my to read list for awhile but I finally went through it tonight. Uhm, yeah maybe if it were any other time I might read it but I can just watch America burn in real life right now. 
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Feb 9, 2017 05:19
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i actually find myself compelled to read more apocalyptic stuff like that. I started with Uber #1 and couldn't stop reading it until I got all the way to UI #2
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Hedrigall posted:I like VG Cats, does that make me a bad person? :\ I'd say it's better than like, CAD, but it's not great.
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Oh well, Oglaf is the greatest web comic ever. I have both the books and a plush of the guilt lizard thing 
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Synthbuttrange posted:Hahah, I had Uber Invasion bought and sitting in my to read list for awhile but I finally went through it tonight. Yeah it's not a gruesome hideous gore comic for sadists to jerk off to, it's light-hearted escapism at this point.
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scuba school sucks posted:Yeah it's not a gruesome hideous gore comic for sadists to jerk off to, it's light-hearted escapism at this point. The big difference is whether they're actually telling a story in all that poo poo or not. Like, the very first Crossed serial was actually decent, not because it was shocking, but because it used that shock to enhance the story it wanted to tell anyway. After that it just became, well, Crossed, and I dropped that poo poo like the Anglosphere dropped sane politics. (also note that if you have to keep creating bad guys who directly contradict the premise of your setting, you've run out of stories to tell.). Ubers is actually trying to say something; to what extent it succeeds is for the reader to judge, of course, but it's not just there to get sales because it's transgressive.
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Roth posted:Meredith Finch is the one that wrote an awful Wonder Woman run, right? She has a new book coming out called Rose that looks a bit interesting, but I'm not sure about the writer. I mean change and growth are always possible, but her writing in Wonder Woman really was drek.
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zoux posted:I just used the Wikipedia page Chinston Wurchill posted:I forget how I specifically went through the older volumes, but you can probably trust these guys.
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Didn't realize Sex Criminals was starting back up again, so I picked that up along with the new Manifest Destiny today.
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Roth posted:Didn't realize Sex Criminals was starting back up again, so I picked that up along with the new Manifest Destiny today. Yeah it surprised me too. Still good too. In other news apparently there are going to be delays on the back half of Uber: Invasion, but only a month or two at a time. The bright side is it means consistent art, as the breaks are for Daniel Gete to handle his schedule.
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Is Invincible still 'Universe keeps pooping on Mark'?
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