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Milky Moor posted:halo 5 is one of the worst big release games in recent memory. it's up there with mankind divided. Mankind Divided is one of the best games in recent history, though?
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Mymla posted:Mankind Divided is one of the best games in recent history, though? look at this post
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Feb 6, 2017 15:48
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I didn't play Halo 5 or Mankind Divided, so
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Feb 6, 2017 16:05
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Zzulu posted:I didn't play Halo 5 or Mankind Divided, so Space Sex: Behind Divided.
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Feb 6, 2017 16:07
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Kurieg posted:Yeah, that's basically my problem with Sera, she's well written, but you can't really interact with her views or change her mind. In most cases your best option is to just say "Get the gently caress off my mountain" which seems kind of uncharitable to the writer. I said it before but Sera would have been a good character if they didn't saddle her with all the monkey cheese in the universe and the world's greasiest face. The "STOP BEING YOU!" conversations actually lead somewhere and it's interesting having characters stuck in their beliefs (I played an elf mage and she ended up dialing it down, anyway; she's actually just afraid you'll become a tyrant and is scared of everything she's become caught up in). The problem is there's so much unfunny poo poo that it gets lost and she just sucks.
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Feb 6, 2017 18:35
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I think a big issue with Sera is her voice performance being very stilted. She sounds like a posh British person trying to do a sort of stereotypical working class accent and sounding stiff and overly precise while she's saying slang words.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:36
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Like, every time she says, "right?" is a good example. An actual speaker of the accent she's using wouldn't pause, take a breath, and say "right?" with a clear separation. They would meld it into the end of the sentence, like certain American accents might do "<main sentence>,yknowwhmsayin?". She has a lot of relatively dynamic slangy dialogue that's being delivered super stiffly and it makes her feel sort of unnatural when she talks. Maybe something a non-British person wouldn't consciously notice but I think it contributes to the issues with her.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:40
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Android Blues posted:Like, every time she says, "right?" is a good example. An actual speaker of the accent she's using wouldn't pause, take a breath, and say "right?" with a clear separation. They would meld it into the end of the sentence, like certain American accents might do "<main sentence>,yknowwhmsayin?". Not if they're using it to counterpoint rather than a spooling term ('innit', 'y'know'). If it's used to stress agreement with the listener (Right?, Okay?) then it's merely a nudge. I've not noticed a problem with Sera other than her character is a flat 'working class hero' that flip-flops between being light hearted and psychotically focussed on righting a perceived wrong.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:46
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Android Blues posted:Like, every time she says, "right?" is a good example. An actual speaker of the accent she's using wouldn't pause, take a breath, and say "right?" with a clear separation. They would meld it into the end of the sentence, like certain American accents might do "<main sentence>,yknowwhmsayin?". Yeah but she's not British (And anyways she was raised by a noblewoman).
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Feb 6, 2017 19:46
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Hav posted:Not if they're using it to counterpoint rather than a spooling term ('innit', 'y'know'). Right, which isn't how Sera uses it usually, it's more like "<statement of my opinion>, right?". In that case you definitely wouldn't pause and speak it as a separate clause, but she does exactly that pretty much every time. She's using it as a pure intensifier, but saying it like someone seeking agreement or asking a genuine question. If anything I'd guess the direction is wrong.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:50
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Also there's just too much enunciation all over the place. Listening to some clips, there's a segment where she says "You on about anything else?" and pronounces it with full proper elecution. A speaker actually using that slang would have a pronunciation closer to, "y'on about anythin' else?". Basically, listening to Sera as someone who's from where her accent is supposed to be from is like listening to a starched collar Young Republican try to impersonate a Jamaican surfboard dealer. It's painful. I like the character, mind you. She has her flaws but I'm not super down on her. I just think the VA work is easily the weakest of any of the companions and has a lot of issues with delivery.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:57
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You can tell Sera's accent isn't authentically English because she's way less insufferable than an actual English person.
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Feb 6, 2017 19:59
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Well since she was raised by a noblewoman and now she's pretending like she's common as muck, her accent being awkward actually works well for her character. Plenty of real posh people who do that, and yes they are annoying.
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Feb 6, 2017 20:06
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marktheando posted:Well since she was raised by a noblewoman and now she's pretending like she's common as muck, her accent being awkward actually works well for her character. Plenty of real posh people who do that, and yes they are annoying. That's true I guess. It still grates for me but it makes more sense when viewed through that part of the character.
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Feb 6, 2017 20:07
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exquisite tea posted:You can tell Sera's accent isn't authentically English because she's way less insufferable than an actual English person. why are you like this?
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Feb 6, 2017 20:26
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Moola posted:why are you like this? They're English.
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Feb 6, 2017 20:28
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I for one was really annoyed whenever femshep's canadian accent shifted to an Alabama twang (I actually didn't hate this at all i liked it)
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Feb 6, 2017 20:32
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Reclaimer posted:I for one was really annoyed whenever femshep's canadian accent shifted to an Alabama twang (I actually didn't hate this at all i liked it) to be fair, that's a thing that happens in Alberta
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Feb 6, 2017 20:33
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I enjoyed the part where I never had to hear femsheps annoying voice.
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Feb 6, 2017 20:43
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Mark Meer does the whoring out for bad discounts ads part a lot better. 
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PureRok posted:I enjoyed the part where I never had to hear femsheps annoying voice.
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Feb 6, 2017 20:57
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Robyn Addison was born in Derbyshire and has a perfectly normal Midlands accent, though?
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Feb 6, 2017 21:08
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Lt. Danger posted:Robyn Addison was born in Derbyshire and has a perfectly normal Midlands accent, though? Well, mostly. She was indeed born in Derbyshire, but her accent now is not standard Derbyshire and is rather posher, probably as a result of having lived in the upper crustier parts of the south. She is a good actor though and the accent was probably well within her capabilities, she does a perfectly good variety of accents in other roles. That's why I would guess Sera's stilted pronunciations are more likely to be a direction issue.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:12
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exquisite tea posted:You can tell Sera's accent isn't authentically English because she's way less insufferable than an actual English person. You're definitely an expert about being insufferable.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:14
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Reclaimer posted:Yeah but she's not British (And anyways she was raised by a noblewoman). Yeah but British accents are like the most coded accents in the world because it's a hellscape, she's obviously meant to evoke a cheeky cockney from Fagin's gang. I did take it as like Lily Allen, a posh person putting on a working class voice, but that's giving Bioware a ton of credit they probably don't deserve.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:37
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Romancing Sera as an elf mage was fun. I kinda like how she gives you an ultimatum of either giving up your religion or your relationship, because that's exactly the sort of lovely thing she'd do. I really don't like how the game doesn't let you call her out on her bullshit after breaking up with her.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:43
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Just once I'd like to see one of these AAA fantasy games have American accents. Dwarves sound like rednecks or something. Starcraft will always have a special place in my heart not just as a great RTS but also as the first game where I heard people who sound like me.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:47
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Serf posted:Just once I'd like to see one of these AAA fantasy games have American accents. Dwarves sound like rednecks or something. Starcraft will always have a special place in my heart not just as a great RTS but also as the first game where I heard people who sound like me. Just once? There are loads of American accents in Dragon Age, and also the Witcher. And that's bad, it always fucks with my suspension of disbelief to hear nasal yank accents in a medieval setting. Also complaining about underrepresentation of American accents in video games is weird. Try having literally any other accent on the planet and see how many people sound like you.
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Feb 6, 2017 21:54
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Dragon Age accents are all over the place anyway, the only really consistent thing is the horrendous French ones in Orlais
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Feb 6, 2017 21:55
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Looking forward to roleplaying as a spoiled failson
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Feb 6, 2017 22:06
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I love how many actors with natural accents get accused of not having "authentic" accents because the listener is always the expert. Moreover, why does it matter if a particular accent doesn't map perfectly to a particular region of England when the character grew up in a magical elfworld? Yeah, I know, "coding" or whatever, but some of you guys are just outrageously picky about how a character sounds when they aren't, in reality, even speaking English! Them having an accent you recognize is a limitation of the medium as much as anything. Perhaps if we donate enough money to the Pillars of Eternity 2 fund, they'll record all the voice overs in Aedyran and Glanfathan conlangs so you can have an "authentic" experience? To bring this back to Mass Effect, Jaal is voiced by Nyasha Hatendi, so I guess Angarans are all from Zimbabwe and we should import any and all of that cultural baggage to their every word. Perhaps we'll depose their cartoonish High Elder and save them from rampant inflation while we're on their homeworld? steakmancer posted:Looking forward to roleplaying as a spoiled failson At last, I can truly be myself in a video game. marshmallow creep fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 6, 2017 |
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Serf posted:Just once I'd like to see one of these AAA fantasy games have American accents. Dwarves sound like rednecks or something. Starcraft will always have a special place in my heart not just as a great RTS but also as the first game where I heard people who sound like me. gotta get elves with that cajun accent. swamp elves.
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Feb 6, 2017 22:53
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Admiral Ray posted:gotta get elves with that cajun accent. swamp elves. Gnomes look like they should have New Jersey accents. Halflings are obviously Fargo-style midwesterners. Goblins that sound like Bostonians.
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Feb 6, 2017 22:58
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What accent would bog standard humans have in such a place?
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Feb 6, 2017 23:04
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marshmallow creep posted:I love how many actors with natural accents get accused of not having "authentic" accents because the listener is always the expert. Moreover, why does it matter if a particular accent doesn't map perfectly to a particular region of England when the character grew up in a magical elfworld? Yeah, I know, "coding" or whatever, but some of you guys are just outrageously picky about how a character sounds when they aren't, in reality, even speaking English! Them having an accent you recognize is a limitation of the medium as much as anything. I think this is a bit of an overreaction. I'd say there is actually some social relevance given the classism in British acting, but apart from that, it sounds goofy if someone is speaking a real accent but just speaking it like, wrong, and that's distinct from them speaking a wacky fantasy accent (that no-one else in the Dragon Age setting speaks). I'm sure everyone here has heard someone doing a poor impression of their own natural accent and found it hilarious/unbearable.
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Feb 6, 2017 23:09
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marshmallow creep posted:What accent would bog standard humans have in such a place? Well if they're bog people they can have Scottish accents.
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marshmallow creep posted:What accent would bog standard humans have in such a place? Baltimore.
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Feb 6, 2017 23:09
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the only thing stopping me from buying this is the multiplayer p2p tell me why the multiplayer isn't going to suddenly lag out when someone's mom resets the router because the internet is "going slow"
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Feb 6, 2017 23:16
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Serf posted:Baltimore. SHEPARD: The gently caress did I do?
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thanks. i just canceled my preorder. i was already on the fence but yeah that looked like loving poo poo and the voice acting was crap. i'll just buy sniper elite 4 for this month. RBA Starblade posted:I said it before but Sera would have been a good character if they didn't saddle her with all the monkey cheese in the universe and the world's greasiest face. The "STOP BEING YOU!" conversations actually lead somewhere and it's interesting having characters stuck in their beliefs (I played an elf mage and she ended up dialing it down, anyway; she's actually just afraid you'll become a tyrant and is scared of everything she's become caught up in). this. if they had cut all the stupid monkey cheese whedon poo poo. she would have been a much better character. cheesy whedon writing has become a crutch of bioware of late espcialy in dragon age. its sad.
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