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| Goku |
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202 | 7.09% |
| Vegeta |
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279 | 9.79% |
| Krillin |
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208 | 7.30% |
| Piccolo or his nameks |
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212 | 7.44% |
| Gohan or Cool Gohan |
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135 | 4.74% |
| Yamcha |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Tien |
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120 | 4.21% |
| Muten Roshi |
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89 | 3.12% |
| Tao Pai Pai |
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71 | 2.49% |
| Frieza |
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69 | 2.42% |
| Cell or an android |
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86 | 3.02% |
| Buu |
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62 | 2.18% |
| Hercule "Mark" Satan |
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327 | 11.48% |
| Videl |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Bulma |
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104 | 3.65% |
| Yajirobe |
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99 | 3.47% |
| Ginyu or other Frieza squad guy |
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68 | 2.39% |
| King kai or another kai |
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53 | 1.86% |
| Chi-Chi |
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83 | 2.91% |
| Goten |
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43 | 1.51% |
| Trunks or Cool Trunks |
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112 | 3.93% |
| Bardock |
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48 | 1.68% |
| Other villain of DB,Z, or GT(please post about it!) |
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41 | 1.44% |
| Uub |
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42 | 1.47% |
| Oolong |
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90 | 3.16% |
| Zamasu |
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26 | 0.91% |
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WickedHate posted:Didn't they already learn that and make that a big deal while training for Cell? Not quite. what they did with Super Saiyan was learn to minimize the impact of it, but they never fully controlled it. It's why Goku couldn't use Kaioken until SSB, because even at its most controlled SS was still pretty wild.
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Feb 7, 2017 06:23
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ImpAtom posted:Not quite. what they did with Super Saiyan was learn to minimize the impact of it, but they never fully controlled it. It's why Goku couldn't use Kaioken until SSB, because even at its most controlled SS was still pretty wild. Yeah, Whis explicitly has them train in base form for this
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Feb 7, 2017 06:27
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WickedHate posted:Didn't they already learn that and make that a big deal while training for Cell? They wasted Ki during the transformation and Goku's goal was to eliminate that but that's about that it. They (at least Goku) learned it a bit with him just using Kaioken on impact. But Whis went beyond that where you only eliminate all waste and only use ki when needed which would have the consequence of letting your guard down too early or being too slow in reacting if you're rusty.
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Feb 7, 2017 06:37
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ImpAtom posted:Not quite. what they did with Super Saiyan was learn to minimize the impact of it, but they never fully controlled it. It's why Goku couldn't use Kaioken until SSB, because even at its most controlled SS was still pretty wild. Kild posted:They wasted Ki during the transformation and Goku's goal was to eliminate that but that's about that it. They (at least Goku) learned it a bit with him just using Kaioken on impact. But Whis went beyond that where you only eliminate all waste and only use ki when needed which would have the consequence of letting your guard down too early or being too slow in reacting if you're rusty. I feel like this is splitting hairs and it still comes down to "okay, you trained to not waste energy, but now let's train to not waste energy even more". Like...it seems arbitrary. Not using kaioken after the Saiyan Saga was logical before because instead of turning on a force multiplier for several seconds at a time they could just do increase strength at precise moments, and using it while already ssj would just waste energy even faster. I mean what even is training anyway? Goku trains with different masters and learns different techniques, like okay, I can get that, but most of the time it seems like "training" is an abstract on par with hitting a punching bag in a video game enough times for your STR stat to go up several times. Although the real reason why kiaoken never showed up again is because aside from SSJ and the Kamehameha, Toriyama reused techniques very rarely. Something cool about Dragon Ball Super is that it remembers poo poo like the Galick Gun exists. It feels like good fanfiction that really explores the world the author created.
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Feb 7, 2017 06:39
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ive been rewatching the new opening and ive come to the conclusion master roshi is going to die
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Feb 7, 2017 07:15
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Stairmaster posted:ive been rewatching the new opening and ive come to the conclusion master roshi is going to die has anyone on that crew not died before? StrifeHira posted:On a completely different topic Does that dub just play Hikari No Willpower on a loop?
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Feb 7, 2017 07:20
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Ammat The Ankh posted:has anyone on that crew not died before? Buu hasn't died!
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Feb 7, 2017 07:29
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Aurora posted:Buu hasn't died! Buus innocence died when those men shot his dog
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Feb 7, 2017 07:31
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Aurora posted:Buu hasn't died! He died when Freiza blew up the planet (presumably)
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Feb 7, 2017 07:38
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Kild posted:He died when Freiza blew up the planet (presumably) I mean Kid Buu survived blowing up the planet, and are we really gonna count time reversal deaths
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Feb 7, 2017 07:40
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Kild posted:He died when Freiza blew up the planet (presumably) No way Buu would die from that. If Whis hadn't reversed time Frieza would have a pissed off and newly reformed Buu on his hands to fight.
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Feb 7, 2017 07:45
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I thought Frieza was killed by his destroying Earth in that (temporary) timeline.
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Feb 7, 2017 08:02
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Frieza can survive planet explosions too!!
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Feb 7, 2017 08:04
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maybe technology just evolved to the point where guns can hurt karatemen there's certainly enough shenanigans to warrant that
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Feb 7, 2017 08:07
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Technically they all were supposed to survive the explosion only to suffocate in space.
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Feb 7, 2017 08:08
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Blue Star posted:I'm still not clear on what God ki is supposed to be?? Normal ki is like playing Texas Holdem and God ki is like playing Yugioh. WickedHate posted:Although the real reason why kiaoken never showed up again is because aside from SSJ and the Kamehameha, Toriyama reused techniques very rarely. Something cool about Dragon Ball Super is that it remembers poo poo like the Galick Gun exists. It feels like good fanfiction that really explores the world the author created. For the longest time I didn't realize Galick Gun was something Vegeta actually used in the series. I thought the games just made it up, since he'd need a named move he could spam. Momomo fucked around with this message at 08:48 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Feb 7, 2017 08:45
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Goku would get really into yu gi oh
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Feb 7, 2017 08:50
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Aurora posted:Frieza can survive planet explosions too!! Frieza survived Namak blowing up when there was only half of him.
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Feb 7, 2017 09:17
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CharlestheHammer posted:Goku would get really into yu gi oh "So each player starts with 4000 life points".  *thinking* "Zaw...sand?"
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Feb 7, 2017 10:00
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Kild posted:Also another thing Whis taught them was to not waste Ki. So Goku probably has his ki suppressed whenever he's not fighting. Incidentally Trunks power level was 5 when he was suppressing it. Krillin mastered this poo poo before Namek.
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Feb 7, 2017 11:30
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CharlestheHammer posted:Goku would get really into yu gi oh Must be where Cell gets it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Y0VqeKxyg
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Feb 7, 2017 11:33
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BizarroAzrael posted:Must be where Cell gets it: No he gets that from vegeta. If you love long monologues about your inherent supremacy you like yugioh.
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Feb 7, 2017 13:21
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I like how Goku instantly gets beefy as gently caress as soon as he changes out of his farming clothes.
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Feb 7, 2017 14:03
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Aurora posted:I mean Kid Buu survived blowing up the planet, and are we really gonna count time reversal deaths you might as well since they're just as invalidated as being resurrected by shenron
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Feb 7, 2017 14:23
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New opening is pretty drat good
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Feb 7, 2017 14:27
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Electric Phantasm posted:Screencapped a few things from the OP. So looking at the new OP (Its reallyyyy good) and these shots then seeing this theory on reddit ( https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/5sizwu ) have the same thoughts I do and this saga is looking good. I see it being pretty long, the previous arcs have moved pretty fast I think they slow down for this one. RBX fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Feb 7, 2017 14:38
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My money's on the high priest putting universe-destroying ideas into Zen-Oh's head and him being the one Goku's gotta punch at the end.
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Feb 7, 2017 14:53
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don't punch whis' dad, that's rude
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Feb 7, 2017 14:57
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I recently rewatched the first few episodes of Dragonball Z. Raditz literally thinks his scouter is malfunctioning because Goku, Piccolo and Gohan have their power level readings flunctuate wildly. It's a series that opens by both introducing the concept of a numerically quantifiable power level and rendering it questionable at best at the same time.
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Feb 7, 2017 15:18
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YF-23 posted:I recently rewatched the first few episodes of Dragonball Z. Raditz literally thinks his scouter is malfunctioning because Goku, Piccolo and Gohan have their power level readings flunctuate wildly. It's a series that opens by both introducing the concept of a numerically quantifiable power level and rendering it questionable at best at the same time. People keep pointing this out but I wasn't arguing pro-scouters. I wasn't really arguing buttrock punchmen were objectively better than grandma voiced hicks either, just grappling with my own issues over the thing I sorta built my life on not being what I thought it was and/or wanted it to be, but that's beside the point. Scouters are wrong. I get it! I never said they weren't!
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Feb 7, 2017 15:28
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So I got a question. Future Zeno blew up his universe completely, right? Where'd his pair of bodyguards come from, then; does he just poof them into existence?
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Feb 7, 2017 15:32
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a cartoon duck posted:My money's on the high priest putting universe-destroying ideas into Zen-Oh's head and him being the one Goku's gotta punch at the end. I'll take that money.
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Feb 7, 2017 15:34
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WickedHate posted:People keep pointing this out but I wasn't arguing pro-scouters. I wasn't really arguing buttrock punchmen were objectively better than grandma voiced hicks either, just grappling with my own issues over the thing I sorta built my life on not being what I thought it was and/or wanted it to be, but that's beside the point. Scouters are wrong. I get it! I never said they weren't! Of course, you said that already. The point is that you still enjoyed Dragonball even though you misunderstood it, and that's because Dragonball is an enjoyable show. And you can still enjoy Dragonball now that you understand it better, because it's still the same kind of enjoyable show. You mentioned the end of the Goku Black/Zamasu arc, and I want to say about that; yeah, the ending sucked. It didn't need to have ended that way. But it ending that way doesn't invalidate everything before it, and for all of what happened in the last episode, Trunks getting a Spirit Bomb sword and finishing the fight by slicing Zamasu in half with it is still a thing that happened.
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Feb 7, 2017 15:36
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a cartoon duck posted:My money's on the high priest putting universe-destroying ideas into Zen-Oh's head and him being the one Goku's gotta punch at the end. The introductory scene was the Zeno twins blowing up planets as a game for a reason.
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Feb 7, 2017 15:40
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Justin_Brett posted:So I got a question. Future Zeno blew up his universe completely, right? Where'd his pair of bodyguards come from, then; does he just poof them into existence? Proof of creationism in the Dragonball universe. Take that filthy darwinists!
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Feb 7, 2017 15:48
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We don't know that anybody was on those planets 
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Feb 7, 2017 15:50
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YF-23 posted:You mentioned the end of the Goku Black/Zamasu arc, and I want to say about that; yeah, the ending sucked. It didn't need to have ended that way. But it ending that way doesn't invalidate everything before it, and for all of what happened in the last episode, Trunks getting a Spirit Bomb sword and finishing the fight by slicing Zamasu in half with it is still a thing that happened. This is also a problem with me because I have like really bad OCD and when a story has stuff I don't like in it it's hard for me to enjoy "the good parts". It's like a house where some of the support beams are made of cardboard and I can't stop fixating on that. This is also why I've had problems dealing with the Buu saga when I got older, because it ping ponging between protagonists bugs the hell out of me.
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Feb 7, 2017 16:04
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YF-23 posted:Of course, you said that already. The point is that you still enjoyed Dragonball even though you misunderstood it, and that's because Dragonball is an enjoyable show. And you can still enjoy Dragonball now that you understand it better, because it's still the same kind of enjoyable show. And also, now we see that the ending was "important" for the later plot because the BIG deal is and always was Zeno from the moment he was introduced, and having two of them is probably also going to be a big deal.
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Feb 7, 2017 16:12
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Yeah, I think as slightly unsatisfying as it was Zeno destroying Trunk's universe on a whim is important because it shows that Zeno isn't an adorable guy who is just talking, he's an adorable amoral god-creature who will end reality if he wants. It really explains that Beerus & co's fear of him isn't just wacky comedy but because they know he could AND would do it.
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Feb 7, 2017 16:19
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My dissatisfaction with Black Goku's conclusion is entirely wrapped up in how it handled Vegeto. He seriously should just not have showed up at all. Though, then again, Trunks getting the whole Book of Job happy ending is also...dodgy.
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Feb 7, 2017 16:21
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