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Kite Pride Worldwide posted:Greedier Mode really isn't that bad once you get a feel for it. I've already cleared it on every character. You just have to buy the really meaningful items like stat-ups, and Greedier himself has poor long-range capabilities so you just go around the room clockwise every time he jumps. Yeah, I'm getting more used to it. The center door still pisses me off though because it can fire from off screen, but I've learned to just not stand in the middle. Still felt pretty damned hilarious to be throwing not one, not two but 18 IPECAC shots at him every time I fired.
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Bloody Pom posted:According to the wiki: All the bullshit is now removed except for the instant teleport to The Void, right?
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BJPaskoff posted:All the bullshit is now removed except for the instant teleport to The Void, right? What's the instant teleport to the Void? So, is the Delirium fight considered ok with all the bullshit teleports, glitches and broken animations? Edit: There's also that other bug, where you may beat the Hush but the doorway to the Void portal room does not open and you have to know it is indeed a bug and that you need to exit and re-enter the room to get that. And another where you can see the portal but can't get sucked into it, and you have to exit the game and continue in order to fix it. AbstractNapper fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Feb 7, 2017 |
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Feb 7, 2017 07:41
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I bought Afterbirth+. After I installed the Slam Jam custom challenge from Steam it was worth every single penny.
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Feb 7, 2017 07:44
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AbstractNapper posted:What's the instant teleport to the Void? You have a 5% chance of being instantly teleported to the Void after killing Mom if you have 20+ items or your damage stat is 100+.
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Feb 7, 2017 10:11
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Bloody Pom posted:According to the wiki: Fixing a bug that's been in the game since launch, weirdos
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Feb 7, 2017 10:55
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Dr. Mantis Toboggan posted:You have a 5% chance of being instantly teleported to the Void after killing Mom if you have 20+ items or your damage stat is 100+. This is annoying as poo poo. I've been refilling my post-its for various characters because they'd been erased with the installation of AB+ and this screwed me over quite a few times. I nearly lost it when it happened with Keeper since I had Swallowed Penny, Piggy Bank and Car Battery, among other things. I mean goddamn. I hope they remove it.
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Feb 7, 2017 11:11
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Yeah, I'd like the option to skip the Hush (I think it's there but with very low probability) and still get Delirium, but I'd hate it if it auto-teleported me to The Void in a run that I didn't plan to do that, or hadn't been strong enough yet. I'm doing Delirium runs now, which for most of the characters are also Hush runs, since in vanilla Afterbirth I hated the Hush (rushing for and fighting the Hush) and only beat him once. It kinda seems easier now, but I still hate to think how I'd do that with The Lost and The Keeper, unless I get very very lucky and get broken items really early. Also, it seems that Chaos card won't work on Delirium. Thank god I also had an Algiz rune and Gimpy paid out with 1-2 hearts and I managed to end a run with just one heart. I got some weird rooms in the last runs that at least for me seemed new additions. There was one room that was filled with coins (pennies, nickels, dimes) that brought me up to 99 pennies (and co-incidentally I had or later got pay-to-win in that run).... And there is a new shop room where the greed goons spawn but it also has more items, more dead shop-keepers and two pennies that both give you a luck up..
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Feb 7, 2017 12:18
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AbstractNapper posted:Also, it seems that Chaos card won't work on Delirium. Thank god I also had an Algiz rune and Gimpy paid out with 1-2 hearts and I managed to end a run with just one heart. Chaos works if you hit the butt part of a segmented boss. I wanted to see the animation of him eating the card, and it oneshot his The Hollow form and I won the run.
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Feb 7, 2017 13:16
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Mods can now check to see if you're pressing keys, though as far as I can tell, you can't actually BIND the key without the mod doing some kind of weird workaround. Here's a mod I made that uses this and gives you a built-in D6 ability, so you can take the lovely space items you find and continue rolling items on your whole run anyway: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=855995373
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Feb 7, 2017 14:06
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So todays daily I found dataminer on floor. Hoping for some damage, got lowered damage, used it again hoping for fix... ended up with 2 damage down and no damage up items... well rip run. I'm never getting the 5 in a row 
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Feb 7, 2017 14:13
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AlexJade posted:So todays daily I found dataminer on floor. Hoping for some damage, got lowered damage, used it again hoping for fix... ended up with 2 damage down and no damage up items... well rip run. I'm never getting the 5 in a row There was an item room with a reroll altar that if used twice gave Tech X, aka automatic winner Dark Princes Crown is a terrible item, you have to stay at 1 heart container for... tear and shot speed up?
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Feb 7, 2017 14:19
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comingafteryouall posted:There was an item room with a reroll altar that if used twice gave Tech X, aka automatic winner I guess it's supposed to be a devil Crown of Light, unfortunately it's not very useful unless you're also playing as Eve. It should give at least +1 DMG to justify the two-heart cost.
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Feb 7, 2017 14:47
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Psychedelicatessen posted:Chaos works if you hit the butt part of a segmented boss. I wanted to see the animation of him eating the card, and it oneshot his The Hollow form and I won the run. Wait really? I thought it just didn't work at all on him.
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AlexJade posted:So todays daily I found dataminer on floor. Hoping for some damage, got lowered damage, used it again hoping for fix... ended up with 2 damage down and no damage up items... well rip run. I'm never getting the 5 in a row I used it once and got a luck up and range down, then put it away. You get no damage ups until the floor before last, where the boss room gives up a Halo. BUT, if you get the first devil deal and take Whore of Babylon, and get the devil deal on second-to-last floor, you get Eye of Belial and Empty Vessel, then you have a nice situation going. I was also able to snag Krampus' Head and Lil Brimstone which helped out tremendously. Oh, also Gemini, Ghost Baby (from a skull on the second-to-last floor, in the room between the item room and boss room), and Sister Maggie, then beefed them all up with BFF from the shop which I snagged for free with Store Credit. If you can struggle through having no damage boosting until the last two floors (and Rag Man is the first loving boss) you can do this. Krampus' Head helps a lot with the bosses too, since it decimates Big Horn and Brownie. Had to use a Joker Card to get to Krampus though. I think it was the third floor?
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Kite Pride Worldwide posted:Greedier Mode really isn't that bad once you get a feel for it. I've already cleared it on every character. You just have to buy the really meaningful items like stat-ups, and Greedier himself has poor long-range capabilities so you just go around the room clockwise every time he jumps. Yep, it's all circling to corners and the midpoints between the room Brimstone beams. On Keeper + Lost runs the only things that weren't easily avoidable in either phase of the fight was spinning coins dropping directly on me in phase 1 as long as I had enough damage. comingafteryouall posted:There was an item room with a reroll altar that if used twice gave Tech X, aka automatic winner I'm semi-convinced Dark Prince's Crown + Black Powder exist only to give you the shittiest imaginable devil deals on Lost runs, I've seen those fuckers constantly.
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Feb 7, 2017 18:31
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I still don't like the Greedier mode, it's mean and it gives me all the poo poo items. 
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Feb 7, 2017 18:41
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Jamesman posted:You get no damage ups until the floor before last, where the boss room gives up a Halo. BUT, if you get the first devil deal and take Whore of Babylon, and get the devil deal on second-to-last floor, you get Eye of Belial and Empty Vessel, then you have a nice situation going.
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Feb 7, 2017 18:42
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For some reason I assumed dark crown was the same as light crown whoops
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Feb 7, 2017 18:55
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Whoops, the Void portal after Hush no longer works with the new patch. RIP this really good Apollyon run that sucked up like seven books with Car Battery.
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Feb 7, 2017 20:14
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Crosspeice posted:Whoops, the Void portal after Hush no longer works with the new patch. RIP this really good Apollyon run that sucked up like seven books with Car Battery. Oh, so it's not just me? gently caress. If It gets patched, will my current save be fixed?
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Feb 7, 2017 20:23
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Sometimes you have to run over it a billion times and exit the room and come back and slaughter a chicken, it happened to me pre-patch Unless this is something new
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Feb 7, 2017 20:25
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AnonSpore posted:Sometimes you have to run over it a billion times and exit the room and come back and slaughter a chicken, it happened to me pre-patch īGo to the top left corner, go back to the portal. I hope the patch didn't gently caress it completely
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Feb 7, 2017 20:32
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I've approached the portal from every possible angle, every possible speed, re-entered the room, exited the game, came back to it after a day + a restart... Nothing's working.
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Last time that happened to me -today- I had to exit and then continue. I was in the portal room when I exited
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END CHEMTRAILS NOW posted:I got a couple devil deals on the third floor, which helped a lot. I took red heart damage on the second floor and missed the devil deal there. I'm not sure if that's necessary or not. On the third floor, I took red heart damage again and bought a Joker card from the shop. Using it immediately gave me Dark Judas and Dark Bum. You lucky bastard. Did you still find the Shovel in Caves II Devil Deal?
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Crosspeice posted:Whoops, the Void portal after Hush no longer works with the new patch. RIP this really good Apollyon run that sucked up like seven books with Car Battery. It *kinda* works, I ran over it and it didn't work immediately but running over it several times eventually worked. By the way, my thoughts on The Void: The Void is a cool idea that probably would've been better-received if it wasn't the only new floor added by Afterbirth+. I like that the multiple boss rooms all give you items, though this leads to a weird set-up where getting Delirium on the first boss room you enter is bad luck and puts you at a disadvantage. It does feel like a fitting end stage to a game like this. Delirium is a cool idea that is executed extremely poorly. The blatant bugginess is really distracting, with his sprites flying across the room chaotically during certain transformations like Momma Gurdy. Also, the presence of annoying bosses like Momma Gurdy in his line-up of transformations makes the fight feel a lot less fair. His teleportation makes this even worse, combined with the previous two elements it makes for a fight that feels way too chaotic. This is manageable with 12 soul hearts but I can't imagine it being fun to fight this guy as The Lost, especially if you're doing it right after the agonizingly long Hush battle. And even though it's supposed to be stronger versions of past bosses, the only real difference with the individual bosses is that every one he turns into has the same bland circular tear spread shot out of them, it feels pretty lazy. I do like the reprites of the old bosses, and it fits as a thematic ending to the game, but it just isn't all that fun, fair, or interesting to fight. The music for the floor and the boss is pretty good, probably two of my favorites from the Rebirth soundtrack. The mixture of old motifs in a chaotic, echoing electric guitar is pretty effective at setting the mood.
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Delirium is just the boss rush but worse (and lazier) in almost every fashion. With it being chaotically fast and constantly jumping around the arena, there's hardly any time to get an appreciable look at the custom sprites and you're best off shooting it while it's off-screen. The Void is a cool concept executed poorly since it tends to be less difficult than the proper final chapters or even Sheol/Cathedral. Maybe that's intended? It's hard to tell and could be solved with a more clear-cut entry requirement. It'd be more interesting if you were forced to fight a number of bosses before finding Delirium instead of the current solution of having boss rooms at the end of branches that may or may not contain the final boss.
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http://bindingofisaac.com/post/156945248421/109 I wonder what they want people to datamine, or if they're trying to create a wild goose chase
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I just found this shop layout twice. First time it also spawned with two greed heads. This time it was a greed head and the new spiders that shoot tracking orbs and die with spider spawners. Maybe this came in with the patch too?
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IUG posted:I just found this shop layout twice. First time it also spawned with two greed heads. This time it was a greed head and the new spiders that shoot tracking orbs and die with spider spawners. Maybe this came in with the patch too? Yeah, I saw this and a few other new rooms in a game last night. It was nice!
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notoriousman posted:It'd be more interesting if you were forced to fight a number of bosses before finding Delirium instead of the current solution of having boss rooms at the end of branches that may or may not contain the final boss. Yeah I was just thinking that would make more sense.
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My favorite thing about Delirium is when he transforms into Brownie and bounces around the arena so fast he seems to literally be everywhere at once.
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New patch appears to have a lot more good fixes than what I listed previously. In particular Rag Man and Sisters Vis got their health nerfed significantly, and an almost unavoidable damage room in the Caves got nerfed into the ground: Also introduced a fun bug where having two Steam Sales will make devil deals free. I hope it's actually intentional.
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Wugga posted:You lucky bastard. Did you still find the Shovel in Caves II Devil Deal?
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Bloody Pom posted:Also introduced a fun bug where having two Steam Sales will make devil deals free. I hope it's actually intentional. I assumed it was intentional but now I'm hoping it gets reverted. Devil deals are one of the few semi-reliable ways to get rid of red hearts. In a breaking run, where I'm most likely to have two Steam Sales, I more often want to pay for devil deals than not.
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Psychedelicatessen posted:http://bindingofisaac.com/post/156945248421/109 What was this supposed to be?
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John Lee posted:What was this supposed to be? 
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Bloody Pom posted:New patch appears to have a lot more good fixes than what I listed previously. In particular Rag Man and Sisters Vis got their health nerfed significantly, oh thank christ
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