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Tesseraction posted:Try working at Amazon: 8 hour shift, no lunch break. You get a 10 minute and 20 minute break after 3 and 5.5 hours respectively. i'm surprised if that's legal
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I worked at an Amazon FC once. It was shite. Got better breaks than Tess hinted at, though.
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Cerv posted:i'm surprised if that's legal haha you think legality matters
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forkboy84 posted:I dunno, one time when I worked in a call centre I went to meet someone during my lunch hour. And before I knew it I was an hour late back. Nobody even noticed, which was nice. Back in my day if you so much as spoke at less than 80 words per minute they'd beat you 'til you got back up to speed. Audible pain would lead to harsher beatings until morale improved, etc. etc.
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Tesseraction posted:One of the great victories of the working class struggle was to grant the right to leisure time. If only we hadn't just voted to leave the EU and the protection of such rights it ensures. That's one reason why I voted Remain.
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Cerv posted:i'm surprised if that's legal It's legal because it provides the minimum 30 minutes. No requirement they be contiguous. Dead Goon posted:I worked at an Amazon FC once. Those were the breaks I got in 2012.
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I have a break whenever I like as long as my work is to schedule
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Tesseraction posted:It's legal because it provides the minimum 30 minutes. No requirement they be contiguous. Fair enough, I was there in 2015.
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Them's the breaks
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So will labour release these texts that they have about surrey councils sweetheart deal?
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Tesseraction posted:One of the great victories of the working class struggle was to grant the right to leisure time. Any sensible system could distribute the work to be done fairly across these groups while still providing a living income. Dead Goon posted:I worked at an Amazon FC once.
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Feb 8, 2017 13:37
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Pissflaps posted:If only we hadn't just voted to leave the EU and the protection of such rights it ensures. The Working Time Directive, while good, did not invent weekends. Dead Goon posted:Fair enough, I was there in 2015. How long did you get?
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Tesseraction posted:The Working Time Directive, while good, did not invent weekends. So what?
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Pissflaps posted:So what? It was the Labour movement of the 1910s-1920s that fought and earned the right to leisure time.
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Tesseraction posted:It was the Labour movement of the 1910s-1920s that fought and earned the right to leisure time. And it's the EU that protects it now in 2017.
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Tesseraction posted:The Working Time Directive, while good, did not invent weekends. Two 15 mins and a 30. But we were also working 8am - 6pm
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Dead Goon posted:Two 15 mins and a 30. You lucky bastards. I bet they didn't spit in your food either.
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Tesseraction posted:It was the Labour movement of the 1910s-1920s that fought and earned the right to leisure time. By this point you'd have hoped you'd have made it to acceptance. Denial isn't healthy dude. You voted badly and a shrinking of worker protections is the consequence.
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i'm saving you all £1.80 here:  never mind TOIL. what's the 4 day week about?
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May was proper shite at pmq's todayTesseraction posted:You lucky bastards. ..food?
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Cerv posted:i'm saving you all £1.80 here: Lol four day week. What a oval office. DesperateDan posted:May was proper shite at pmq's today She usually is. She's shite.
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Tesseraction posted:You lucky bastards. Don't know about the food, but the hot drinks machines were on free vend!
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Four day weeks are also good. Everyone should have them.
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OwlFancier posted:Four day weeks are also good. Everyone should have them. He's taking the piss and people like you have let him get away with it.
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maybe it's four days a week in parliament and one in his constituency ?
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serious gaylord posted:So will labour release these texts that they have about surrey councils sweetheart deal? the guardian has them at the top of its live blog
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Pissflaps posted:He's taking the piss and people like you have let him get away with it. Or possibly my own work experience means that I have basically zero patience for the idea that more time spent working = more productive.
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mfcrocker posted:By this point you'd have hoped you'd have made it to acceptance. Denial isn't healthy dude. Okay. drat, I voted us into 7 day weeks with 16 hour shifts and likely unpaid overtime on top. Probably bringing back child labour too. Curse my short-sighted desire for bendy bananas.
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Cerv posted:i'm surprised if that's legal Here's a question. What happens if google or amazon decide they don't want to pay taxes anymore. What happens if they go 'nah, I think we'll opt out of that.'
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OwlFancier posted:Or possibly my own work experience means that I have basically zero patience for the idea that more time spent working = more productive. I'm not sure your work experience is directly applicable to the leader of the Opposition.
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Sion posted:Here's a question. that's what's happening already lol
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Pissflaps posted:I'm not sure your work experience is directly applicable to the leader of the Opposition. Nor, I suspect, is yours. But I still take a dim view of people who judge worth by hours worked. They tend to be both stupid and spiteful people. Now if you want to just be stupid and/or spiteful you can do that, just don't do it by appealing to lovely loving ideas like working time as a measure of value. OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 14:08 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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Of course, Corbyn would be much more effective if instead of 4 day weeks he worked 0 day weeks...  Joking aside, nah. This is just standard right wing media sniping that's unworthy of a response. Labour's organisational problems are by my understanding more failures of delegation than Corbyn is not working hard enough. If you don't trust the PLP, everything has to go through the Leader, at which point the Leader becomes a bottleneck. Working more doesn't help.
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Feb 8, 2017 14:08
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Maybe Corbyn decided not to opt out of the 48-hour working week: https://www.gov.uk/maximum-weekly-working-hours/overview
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OwlFancier posted:Nor, I suspect, is yours. What if he only wanted to work three days? Or two? Would it still be stupid and spiteful to suggest the labour leader should be doing more, given his abject performance so far?
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Looke posted:the leaked texts in PMQ went down pretty well Yeah crikey... and she then has the cheek to try and pull the 'alternative facts' angle? Hopefully this isn't just going to be ignored by all but the Groan and Mirror.
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I'll be interested to see the summary of journos from other papers. Even the right-wingers have begrudgingly praised Corbyn for previous strong performances and this is preeeetty close to corruption being unearthed.
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Turns out that short working week stuff isn't true anyway: https://twitter.com/PolhomeEditor/status/829317282589528065
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