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https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/829406977910517760
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:15 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 01:30 |
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This is fine. Everything is fine.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:15 |
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Jay Cutler to SF come on make it happen. !!!
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:28 |
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lol the patriots are actually going to get a first
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:28 |
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lol I just saw that the patriots are going to have like $60m+ in cap space to work with this offseason. It's almost not even fair how well-paved their path to victory is.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:32 |
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https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/829411255622447108 Jared Goff on that “biggest bust of all time” trajectory even if his flame out isn't as dramatic as Leaf's.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:33 |
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Would you respect a grown adult who legit didn't know in which direction the sun rose from?
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:37 |
Noctone posted:lol I just saw that the patriots are going to have like $60m+ in cap space to work with this offseason. It's almost not even fair how well-paved their path to victory is. Well, that sounds good until you look at all the free agents they have to resign, like our 2 starting CB (Butler and Ryan), our #2 and #3 TE (Bennett and Lengel), our #2 FS (Harmon), our #1 RB (LG Blount), several members of the defensive front 7 (Long, Branch, Sheard, Hightower) and several other lesser pieces that will probably not have that big of an impact and something will probably done with Amendola's contract, cause that guy is not going to make 6mil next year. Not saying we are not in a great position and we will win another Super Bowl if we don't sustain major injuries next season, but it's not like we have $60m+ to spend on upgrades.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:37 |
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fsif posted:https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/829411255622447108 If you thought the NY media was bloodthirsty...
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:37 |
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This pleases me.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:40 |
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, that sounds good until you look at all the free agents they have to resign, like our 2 starting CB (Butler and Ryan), our #2 and #3 TE (Bennett and Lengel), our #2 FS (Harmon), our #1 RB (LG Blount), several members of the defensive front 7 (Long, Branch, Sheard, Hightower) and several other lesser pieces that will probably not have that big of an impact and something will probably done with Amendola's contract, cause that guy is not going to make 6mil next year. Blount won't be expensive after his flameout with the Steelers and if he tries to get paid he'll be sent away. Bennett is likely to get overpaid by someone else but I could see them keeping him. A lot of that $60m is going to be spent but once you look at it, it's not nearly as much as you'd think. But yeah, that's why they traded Chandler Jones and Jamie Collins, cause there was no way to pay everyone whose getting a payday this year.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:41 |
evilweasel posted:Blount won't be expensive after his flameout with the Steelers and if he tries to get paid he'll be sent away. Bennett is likely to get overpaid by someone else but I could see them keeping him. A lot of that $60m is going to be spent but once you look at it, it's not nearly as much as you'd think. The big advantage is that NE does not have a single really bad contract on the roster, with the exception of Amendola who can be cut relatively painless if he doesn't restructure. Other than that the worst contract is probably McClellin for $3.2m cap. But the expensive contracts will be Butler (if they do a long term deal) Hightower and whoever else they retain on defense. Bennett will be gone if he gets >9m py somewhere else, because that's Gronks number. GaussianCopula fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 8, 2017 |
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:49 |
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gently caress yeah the bears! fsif posted:https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/829411255622447108 Who cares? Rams wr are complete trash and if all of them were cut tomorrow it wouldn't impact LAs overall skill at the position. FizFashizzle fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Feb 8, 2017 |
# ? Feb 8, 2017 20:50 |
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The chances that he's even better than Cutler are like nil.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:00 |
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FizFashizzle posted:Who cares? Rams wr are complete trash and if all of them were cut tomorrow it wouldn't impact LAs overall skill at the position. Just saying, even his intangibles are poo poo!
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:09 |
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FizFashizzle posted:Who cares? Rams wr are complete trash and if all of them were cut tomorrow it wouldn't impact LAs overall skill at the position. If you can't even motivate a guy on the roster bubble to show up and practice that's not exactly great.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:14 |
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move the team to LA
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:17 |
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Eagles cut Leodis McKelvin woooo?
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:29 |
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fsif posted:Just saying, even his intangibles are poo poo! He started in week 11, under a backward thinking HC, in one of the worst offensive schemes in the NFL, with a poo poo o-line and terrible WRs. I'm not sure that's a situation anyone's "intangibles" are going to shine through.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:29 |
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mcmagic posted:The chances that he's even better than Cutler are like nil. Surely it's not a red flag that the Patriots are actively trying to trade away the #1 backup to their starter who turns 40 this year! What I love about Cutler is how everyone ends up disappointed and hating him for being exactly what he always was for his entire career. gently caress YOU FOR BEING EXACTLY WHAT YOU APPEARED TO BE ALL ALONG, MOTHERFUCKER!
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:29 |
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GaussianCopula posted:The big advantage is that NE does not have a single really bad contract on the roster, with the exception of Amendola who can be cut relatively painless if he doesn't restructure. Other than that the worst contract is probably McClellin for $3.2m cap. That and paying players under the table so it doesn't count against the cap.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:37 |
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sean10mm posted:Surely it's not a red flag that the Patriots are actively trying to trade away the #1 backup to their starter who turns 40 this year! It's really not. They can't resign him next year without cutting Brady, they can't trade him next year and get much of any value, so the sole reason not to try and trade him was if you were ready to cut/trade Brady at the end of next year (I think it's basically impossible to cut him due to the dead money hit this year). And while yeah, Brady's old, he doesn't have anything like the neck problem Manning had. He's in excellent heath so you don't really know when he's going to decline. If Jimmy G had 2-3 years left on his rookie contract you'd be right, but he doesn't. They can't just keep him around to replace Brady in the next few years. Their options are: (a) Plan to cut Brady at the end of next year, sign Jimmy G to a long-term contract or have him play on the franchise tag to see if he's really worth keeping (b) Keep Jimmy G around next year and let him walk if Brady is still good, collecting a 3rd round comp pick (or getting something along those lines for trading him to another team that can use the franchise tag on him to exclusively negotiate). (c) Trade Jimmy G now, bank the pick, hope Brisset is good (and he's still got a few years to evaluate him while waiting for Brady to decline), and probably draft another late-round flier to up the odds. You can't really keep Jimmy G after next year AND Brady because Jimmy G is going to get paid and he's not going to stick around on a below-market salary before he gets his first big payday. Brady is already taking as little money as you can get him to take, and they can't afford both. There's some muttering that maybe Jimmy G would accept a below-market deal in exchange for a guarantee he'll be the starter but I can't imagine why he would do that: this is his big chance to be set for life, and he's going to get every last dollar now and then maybe start cutting deals once he's gotten his payday. No matter what, it's a gamble. But it's probably why the Patriots are insisting on a first-round pick: a first-round pick is worth taking the risk next year is Brady's last good year, but a second round pick probably isn't. evilweasel fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Feb 8, 2017 |
# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:39 |
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mastershakeman posted:move the team to LA West Hollywood Bears
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:42 |
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the 2 most overrated NFL players of the past 15 years are Urlacher and Cutler, sorry Bears fans
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:42 |
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evilweasel posted:It's really not. They can't resign him next year without cutting Brady, they can't trade him next year and get much of any value, so the sole reason not to try and trade him was if you were ready to cut/trade Brady at the end of next year (I think it's basically impossible to cut him due to the dead money hit this year). And while yeah, Brady's old, he doesn't have anything like the neck problem Manning had. He's in excellent heath so you don't really know when he's going to decline. And just why the hell can't you pay Jimmy G back-up numbers?
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:46 |
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Chilichimp posted:And just why the hell can't you pay Jimmy G back-up numbers? he has two rings! he looked halfway decent in three games this season! why not pay him starter money? Jimmy G is not worth the bounty some desperate team is going to give NE
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:48 |
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Jason La Canfora isn't right about anything
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:48 |
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Carlosologist posted:he has two rings! he looked halfway decent in three games this season! why not pay him starter money? Why does the number of games JG played in keep growing? He played 1.5 games as a starter and one of those games they would have lost but for a missed field goal.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:51 |
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That settles it, Jimmy G was always bad and should be cut and kicked out of the league immediately.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:53 |
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Why does the number of games JG played in keep growing? Also the Cardinals turned out to be garbage this year, and the Dolphins improved later in the year but sucked really bad to start with (1-4 start, 9-2 finish.)
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:52 |
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evilweasel posted:You can't really keep Jimmy G after next year AND Brady because Jimmy G is going to get paid and he's not going to stick around on a below-market salary before he gets his first big payday. I'd like to think the NFL would wise up eventually and this wouldn't be the case, but Osweiler and stuff so it hasn't happened yet. Jimmy has shown even less than Brock (he has better stats than Brock in Denver but with such a stupid small sample size that it doesn't matter) and by all rights shouldn't be able to demand much, but then again we're probably going to have at least two teams begging to trade away draft picks for him.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:54 |
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SHOAH NUFF posted:the 2 most overrated NFL players of the past 15 years are Urlacher and Cutler, sorry Bears fans i agree on urlacher but even i, the guy who thinks cutler is not much different than matt ryan, have never considered him overrated
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:54 |
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SHOAH NUFF posted:the 2 most overrated NFL players of the past 15 years are Urlacher and Cutler, sorry Bears fans
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:54 |
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Jimmy Garosweiler
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:54 |
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mastershakeman posted:i agree on urlacher but even i, the guy who thinks cutler is not much different than matt ryan, have never considered him overrated Wait, what?
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:58 |
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Chilichimp posted:And just why the hell can't you pay Jimmy G back-up numbers? Because if he hit FA this year he'd get more than Brock. And Brock is loving set for life, which is why you don't accept below-market before you've proven you're a long-term starter.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 22:00 |
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89 posted:Titans are gonna steal Alshon from the Eagles, aren't they I'd be extremely okay with this happening. I'd rather not take a WR in the first round again this year.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 21:59 |
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Grittybeard posted:I'd like to think the NFL would wise up eventually and this wouldn't be the case, but Osweiler and stuff so it hasn't happened yet. I think that going by previous trades, the expected value of the pick, and what Jimmy has shown, that trading a second for him makes sense. He has shown more then Mallett or Hoyer, and has come on faster then Cassel (who was on pace to take a record number of sacks behind a great offensive line in the first half of 2008 before being fixed). That's basically where I've been at since like October. I don't think Jimmy is destined to succeed, but I think you can trade a second for him, then if he's good, franchise // extend him at the end of next year, or move on if he's Osweiler.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 22:00 |
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Grittybeard posted:I'd like to think the NFL would wise up eventually and this wouldn't be the case, but Osweiler and stuff so it hasn't happened yet. Its not that people are stupid. It's that if you're a GM/Coach, you're not going to win without a QB, and so you're going to mortgage the future to get one. Who cares if the team is hosed in three years if it didn't work out: you're fired either way.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 22:00 |
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# ? May 10, 2024 01:30 |
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Wait, what? You don't remember when Cutler won NFL MVP?
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 22:02 |