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Looking at upcoming release dates and I can't help but think that, if nothing else, Guerilla Games have severely shot themselves in the foot with their choice of release date for Horizon: Zero Dawn. Two days before a brand-new Nintendo console, nevermind one of the most-wanted games of the last 4-5 years (Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild), is not a good place for any new release to be.
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One of Catwoman's gadgets in Arkham City were caltrops. They made the thugs looks at their feet like they stepped in gum and then fall over.
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Feb 9, 2017 15:40
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Looking at upcoming release dates and I can't help but think that, if nothing else, Guerilla Games have severely shot themselves in the foot with their choice of release date for Horizon: Zero Dawn. Two days before a brand-new Nintendo console, nevermind one of the most-wanted games of the last 4-5 years (Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild), is not a good place for any new release to be.
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Feb 9, 2017 15:44
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Horizon Zero Dawn is looking like a dud anyway so I doubt the scheduling could hurt it much worse.
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Feb 9, 2017 15:44
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Samurai Sanders posted:Nioh has caltrops. Every game should have caltrops but I can only off the top of my head think of this and the original Shadow Warrior. La Mulana has caltrops and they're essential for speed runs of that.
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Feb 9, 2017 15:50
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Team fortress classic man i miss those caltrops.
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Feb 9, 2017 15:59
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Oxxidation posted:Horizon Zero Dawn is looking like a dud anyway so I doubt the scheduling could hurt it much worse. I'm still hoping the gameplay itself manages to sell the experience, I've been pretty amped for this title since it was first debuted.
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Feb 9, 2017 16:00
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I don't think they're that worried about their ps4 exclusive competing with the wii u/switch exclusive tbh yea there'll be some people that don't get horizen specifically because they bought a switch, but I can't imagine it's gonna cut into their sales that much
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Feb 9, 2017 16:32
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Fuckin Fallout 4 had caltrops (in the dlc).
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Feb 9, 2017 16:38
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Oxxidation posted:Horizon Zero Dawn is looking like a dud anyway so I doubt the scheduling could hurt it much worse.
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Feb 9, 2017 16:45
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there was a video of some side quest thing where you're talking to a guy and people in this thread got really negative about the game over it someone else probably still has the link and can share it if you haven't seen it yet
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Feb 9, 2017 16:47
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Manatee Cannon posted:there was a video of some side quest thing where you're talking to a guy and people in this thread got really negative about the game over it Part of the reason we all got so negative over it, lovely animation and dialogue aside, is the kind of thought process that leads to those design decisions tend to permeate throughout the entire thing. If this is what we're seeing in just a sidequest scene, what kind of crap have they pulled in the rest of the game?
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Feb 9, 2017 16:52
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Part of the reason we all got so negative over it, lovely animation and dialogue aside, is the kind of thought process that leads to those design decisions tend to permeate throughout the entire thing. If this is what we're seeing in just a sidequest scene, what kind of crap have they pulled in the rest of the game? That's what made H:ZD go from "day 1 purchase" to "eh...let's wait for reviews" for me.
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Feb 9, 2017 17:07
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I think I remember that clip, actually. I'm honestly not sure where that clip came from, though, because none of the other dialogue scenes you can find look even close to that bad. They look better than Fallout 4 and Mass Effect, at least.
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Feb 9, 2017 17:17
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hzd is looking structurally like a very safe game with a design doc made up of the elements of modern gaming that sell to broad audiences. but then on top of that they put an awesome combat engine and reports say it has superb play control so 9/10 good job on your next mega hit franchise sony
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Feb 9, 2017 17:28
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Crows Turn Off posted:I think I remember that clip, actually. I'm honestly not sure where that clip came from, though, because none of the other dialogue scenes you can find look even close to that bad. They look better than Fallout 4 and Mass Effect, at least. I regularly play through the mass effect series and for its flaws ME does cutscenes better than that h:zd scene by far. Unless you're going off of intentionally broken scenes on youtube I guess?
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Feb 9, 2017 17:49
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Apparently the new ME is aping Fallout 4's dialogue system?
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Feb 9, 2017 18:09
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HGH posted:Apparently the new ME is aping Fallout 4's dialogue system? Mass Effect already used that system though?
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Feb 9, 2017 18:12
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HGH posted:Apparently the new ME is aping Fallout 4's dialogue system? Bethesda and Bioware have both fallen from grace so much imo. They used to make great games but both have just gotten so loving lazy.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:14
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Imagine how much better both would be if it wasn't required that everything be 100% fully voice acted.FishBulb posted:Brink had caltrops The greatest game industry lmao moment ever is still when the guy who made Medal of Honor/Call of Duty left Activision in a huff and was going to make HIS game HIS way dammit none of this iterative sci-fi FPS bullshit gently caress YOU Activision I'm working with EA again and gonna make a real breakthrough and at the same time the guy who made Halo left Microsoft in a huff and held that press conference in a huff like all no more of this iterative sci-fi FPS bullshit gently caress YOU Microsoft I'm gonna make MY game MY way and it's gonna be real breakthrough I'm working with Activision now. And so we got Titanfall and Destiny, two lovely sci-fi FPS that are structured like Brink.  Fortunately Titanfall 2 is pretty awesome, and I haven't played Destiny in a long time but supposedly if you were to get it now with all its expansions and stuff it's actually good. Also in case anyone forgot now you can't un-see that the Destiny logo is an athletic supporter again.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:15
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HGH posted:Apparently the new ME is aping Fallout 4's dialogue system? I hear it'll be aping KOTOR's equipment system too. Those Bioware devs just doing everything wrong.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:20
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FishBulb posted:Brink had caltrops Man, Brink was one of the only games that I got truly burned on. I wanted it to be good so bad  Team Fortress Classic had caltrops. TFC 4 eva
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Feb 9, 2017 18:23
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bloodychill posted:I hear it'll be aping KOTOR's equipment system too. Those Bioware devs just doing everything wrong. I don't remember KotOR's equipment system being anything more than a generic equip stuff with the highest numbers RPG one.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:29
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Samurai Sanders posted:Nioh has caltrops. Every game should have caltrops but I can only off the top of my head think of this and the original Shadow Warrior. Hey, La-Mulana has them and they're ludicrously powerful and super speedrun tools Edit: Sakurazuka posted:La Mulana has caltrops and they're essential for speed runs of that. 
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Feb 9, 2017 18:31
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FishBulb posted:Brink had caltrops Yes. Sooooooo much potential.  I really wish they would update and ACTUALLY PLAYTEST THIS TIME and re-release that game. The world, the parkour system... so... good.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:32
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ImpAtom posted:Mass Effect already used that system though?
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Feb 9, 2017 18:39
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For some reason I have a hankering to play the Xbox 360 FPS shadowrun game... Don't know why
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Feb 9, 2017 18:51
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Part of the reason we all got so negative over it, lovely animation and dialogue aside, is the kind of thought process that leads to those design decisions tend to permeate throughout the entire thing. If this is what we're seeing in just a sidequest scene, what kind of crap have they pulled in the rest of the game? Design documentation has nothing to do with the weirdness of the facial animations or the direction of the voices. That video was loving weird, I won't defend it, but somehow extrapolating that because 3 minutes of bad facial animations the game is going to have absolutely terrible everything else is a stretch I haven't seen since fanboy wailing during console launches. Of all the footage I've seen the facial animations do reach into uncanny valley and look off, but nothing was as bad as that one clip and everything else looked fairly solid. It's weird since I don't remember the facial animations in Killzone being that bad. There's been a lot of positive buzz around the open world gameplay despite there being similar elements to most Ubisoft games.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:55
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Captain Yossarian posted:For some reason I have a hankering to play the Xbox 360 FPS shadowrun game... Don't know why One of the only cross platform games ever from what I remember. I think all the PC players destroyed the XBOX dudes.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:59
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There was also an RTS, the name of which I've forgotten, the way they balanced it was to restrict how far out you could pull the camera on PC.  Universe at War? Something like that.
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Feb 9, 2017 19:07
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HGH posted:Did it? What I read mostly focused on dropping Paragon/Renegade for a four choice system. I guess it did in a way give your 3 options and a couple extra sometimes. fallout 4 absolutely ripped its dialogue system straight out of mass effect, yes
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Feb 9, 2017 19:17
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when are voice fonts gonna happen so devs who are too afraid of unvoiced dialog can afford to put more than 4 hollow options in every conversation
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Feb 9, 2017 19:24
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Jimbot posted:open world gameplay There is so much of this around that you don't have to eat the scraps no matter how marketed they are.
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Feb 9, 2017 19:32
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Real hurthling! posted:when are voice fonts gonna happen so devs who are too afraid of unvoiced dialog can afford to put more than 4 hollow options in every conversation Whenever we get an open world sandbox RPG with crafting elements that stars Vocaloids
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Feb 9, 2017 19:33
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Prop Wash posted:Whenever we get an open world sandbox RPG with crafting elements that stars Vocaloids skyrim mod for this came out years ago id bet
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Feb 9, 2017 19:34
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Liver Disaster posted:I regularly play through the mass effect series and for its flaws ME does cutscenes better than that h:zd scene by far And I've played thru the ME series multiple times.
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Feb 9, 2017 19:37
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Sakurazuka posted:My solution was to not have any adult responsibilities  but it takes me approx 2+ weeks to clear a single game even if I played non-stop hence I'm still playing FFXV and ToB. Also some games are much shorter than JRPGS so I imagine you can beat it in 20 hrs if you skipped side quests. I mean, side quests don't add anything special unless it's DA where I can date NPCs.
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Feb 9, 2017 19:39
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Neo Rasa posted:Imagine how much better both would be if it wasn't required that everything be 100% fully voice acted. Ok
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Feb 9, 2017 19:46
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Captain Yossarian posted:For some reason I have a hankering to play the Xbox 360 FPS shadowrun game... Don't know why Shadowrun 360 was honestly a very good game. It was basically Counter-strike with magic, very well balanced and fun to play. I think it got a bad rap because it was basically an MP online only game for $60 with 10 maps that came out in 2007. Honestly though, it was the type of game where you didn't mind playing on the same 10 maps because rounds played out differently every time.
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destiny sold a million jillion copies and titanfall 2 is the best mp fps i've played since like ut2004 so they probably did ok
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