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Battletech does this way better. It advances the story without invalidating older eras. So you can just play the era you want to play in. And if you want to play a different era with units painted incorrectly, you can just say the mechs themselves were recently discovered in a forgotten hangar and you haven't had a chance to paint them in the current style, or this is where a future pattern got its start or something. Literally no one will care.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Battletech does this way better. It advances the story without invalidating older eras. So you can just play the era you want to play in. And if you want to play a different era with units painted incorrectly, you can just say the mechs themselves were recently discovered in a forgotten hangar and you haven't had a chance to paint them in the current style, or this is where a future pattern got its start or something. Literally no one will care. With the caveat that the old original tech (heyooooo 3025-era designs, especially the ones with a goddamned AC/5 for a primary weapon - yes I'm looking at you Dragon) tend to be pretty drat poo poo when you start including newer stuff. While I love the fact that theoretically all the old Battletech stuff is 100% compatible with the new stuff, power creep is still very much A Thing. Irate Tree posted:This was a long arse time ago but it still pisses me off that they can't make a single character kit, even approaching the level of customisation, for xenos races as they did for the marines! The newer Dark Eldar Archon is a step in the right direction, if only because; you'll have plenty of bits from any of the infantry kits (Kabalites and Scourges most notably) that work seamlessly on him. I loved that SM Commander kit and the Chaos Space Marine Terminator Lord kit - that one can make a Sorcerer Lord or a regulator Lord in Terminator Armor, complete with a shitlot of ornate wargear options. I was always disappointed there were no similar options for other races, but on the other hand I can understand where GW is coming from; generally not cost effective to keep on making boxes a given player will only ever really want one of.
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Drake_263 posted:While I love the fact that theoretically all the old Battletech stuff is 100% compatible with the new stuff, power creep is still very much A Thing. Sure, but Battlevalue has been getting more accurate and there's nothing stopping you from saying, "This Dragon A is being used as a Dragon B," and then sucker punching any grog who objects.
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I mean, Hams isn't historicals in that someone would object to you having the wrong jacket lining for 13eme Chasseurs au Fromage in 1805 or you would be turned down from Monte Casino campaign because "sorry, old boy, but the unit markings on your pewter barbies, as well as the use of Cromwell IIc CS and Humbert Dingbat scout car with 0.5-pounder gun, shows this to be Prince of Wales' Own Royal Gulfstream Guard Grenadier Rifles, who didn't participate in Casino." Hams is expensive, burdened by lovely rules and produced by a company who is maybe slinking back into the good graces of players. You have to be engaged in the fluff to play it (unless you're some "my hams right or wrong" scrub or s WAAC who throws his army away once it's not an I WIN button anymore) and in that case, you will care abour the color of spess elves.
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JcDent posted:The player himself will care, which is a fairly important thing, don't you think? I mean, why play Warhammer if you're not into Warhammer? Stockholm syndrome
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JcDent posted:You have to be engaged in the fluff to play it Basically this. Also, my dislike of GW on a company level, and my subjective opinion that their games mechanics and in some cases background need a massive overhaul across the board to account for modern tastes and changes in gaming is kind of irrelevant to me wanting to paint up a few space dudes in a specific way because of nostalgia over enjoying a funny space game back at the turn of the century (mid-way through 3rd edition).
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JcDent posted:The player himself will care, which is a fairly important thing, don't you think? I mean, why play Warhammer if you're not into Warhammer? According to many people on these forums you play Warhammer because its played frequently at their local stores.
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mcjomar posted:So do any of the space elves from that one survive? Yeah, they survive. Biel Tan isn't completely destroyed or purged, but has it's infinity circuit overloaded and destroyed. The various ships that make up the Craftworld then power up and split off like life rafts.
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Indolent Bastard posted:According to many people on these forums you play Warhammer because its played frequently at their local stores. I don't get that at all. MtG and WMH both have better run communities around here, but I wouldn't play them just because they're popular.
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MasterSlowPoke posted:Yeah, they survive. Biel Tan isn't completely destroyed or purged, but has it's infinity circuit overloaded and destroyed. The various ships that make up the Craftworld then power up and split off like life rafts. Ahh cool, thanks. I guess that means that any wraith-whatevers (lords, knights, guard, etc) are the last ones the remaining Biel-Tan have access to, and they're not going to be getting any more any time soon? (while other craftworlds continue to have full access to those things).
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JcDent posted:I don't get that at all. MtG and WMH both have better run communities around here, but I wouldn't play them just because they're popular. no wargaming is better than bad wargaming
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Feb 9, 2017 16:37
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Moola posted:no wargaming is better than bad wargaming  A++ current affairs reference tyvm
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NTRabbit posted:
It's like the House of Wax remake when the guy finds his friend has been turned into a wax sculpture but he's still alive and his eyes are the only things that can move.
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Feb 9, 2017 16:58
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Thin your paints, then thin them again.
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NTRabbit posted:
i'm glad I learned to never paint eyes
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JcDent posted:I mean, Hams isn't historicals in that someone would object to you having the wrong jacket lining for 13eme Chasseurs au Fromage in 1805 or you would be turned down from Monte Casino campaign because "sorry, old boy, but the unit markings on your pewter barbies, as well as the use of Cromwell IIc CS and Humbert Dingbat scout car with 0.5-pounder gun, shows this to be Prince of Wales' Own Royal Gulfstream Guard Grenadier Rifles, who didn't participate in Casino." Ahhhh music to my ears
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Helmets until the day that I dieMoola posted:i'm glad I learned to never paint eyes
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It would be cool to have a model with hundreds of faces so I could just go ham on it and either get good at eyes or win this thread
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Warhammer 40k: Chaos Space Marines: Scratch Built Defiler WARHAMMER 40K Space Marines Scratch Built Thunderhawk 24in long (rd3 458) 
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NTRabbit posted:
It looks like a balloon animal. Atlas Hugged posted:Sauron is/was a playable unit in Lord of the Rings. But I think the scenario basically called for an entire army to fight against just Sauron. Sauron was slain by a dwarven throwing axe. Dwarven throwing axes have also killed a Nazgul riding a fellbeast, trolls, Aragorn, and many others. Our LotR meta is broken.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Sauron is/was a playable unit in Lord of the Rings. But I think the scenario basically called for an entire army to fight against just Sauron. Eh, he's strong but hardly an entire army. 375 points for Sauron (450 with The Ring), and I'd call that overpriced. He's definitely an army-defining centerpiece, but while he'd be the favorite to win against, E.G. Aragorn, he's far from a certain bet. He'd almost always lose against an equal points value of combat heroes
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fozzy fosbourne posted:It would be cool to have a model with hundreds of faces so I could just go ham on it and either get good at eyes or win this thread Reaper's Eye Beast and Faceless Horror are both pretty good for getting practice with eyes.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Quick reminder that this isn't the GW Death Thread Which is where these days?
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Improbable Lobster posted:Helmets until the day that I die Hair overhanging the forehead works too. Anything where I can justify saying there's shadow over the eyes. omnibobb posted:Which is where these days? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3802686
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Thanks, I was looking for it earlier today and couldn't find it without GW in the title
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Improbable Lobster posted:Warhammer 40k: Chaos Space Marines: Scratch Built Defiler I would legitimately actually play against either of these.
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mcjomar posted:
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Yeah those are 54mm models. The Tau is made by some guy selling them on ebay. I'm honestly surprised that the GW Lawyers haven't come down on him yet.
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Oh Christ I thought those were 28mm with a lot of zoom. I was like "I don't see a problem here." But there it is.
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Atlas Hugged posted:Oh Christ I thought those were 28mm with a lot of zoom. I was like "I don't see a problem here." But there it is. It's the edge highlighting, isn't it?
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mcjomar posted:It's the edge highlighting, isn't it? Yeah. I was thinking my models wouldn't look much different from that distance. But oh those are twice the size.
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Yeah, I've only barely gotten a grip on washes and/or maybe drybrushing. I'm still godawful at anything approximating edge highlights, and god forbid I try wet blending as it *will* come out as an unholy mess. If you need proof, here's one I painted about a year ago after having never touched a brush or paint pot for five years+ It's truly howlingly horrifying, is it not?   E: Here's what it is supposed to look like, as painted by someone who knows what a brush is supposed to do:  And for another comparison, here's one I completed a week or so ago:   I've got another one where I tried ultra thin main coats over a white primer, but I've not taken photos yet.
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I don't know if I love or hate these: http://deadestdeadpool.tumblr.com/post/143637313063/iron-hands-conversions-and-painting-by-micos
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Improbable Lobster posted:I don't know if I love or hate these: They're terrible and wonderful and I bet they look goddamn amazing on the table.
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