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just applied for a job for which i hit maybe half the qualifications. people tell me 50% isn't that bad, is that true?
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depends almost entirely on who else is applying and what they truly need out of the position
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Feb 9, 2017 05:03
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yup. if you know nothing about the position it's worth sending it out if you maybe kind of meet the description and hit 25% or the requirements. worst thing that'll happen is a practice interview that you bomb. if it's a referral then ignore the listing entirely because they wouldn't be referring you if you didn't qualify
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Feb 9, 2017 05:12
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Rex-Goliath posted:yup. if you know nothing about the position it's worth sending it out if you maybe kind of meet the description and hit 25% or the requirements. worst thing that'll happen is a practice interview that you bomb. it's a goon referral. the poo poo i didn't know was hadoop, map-reduce, and python. i checked all the other boxes. i know what hadoop/map-reduce are so i assume i could probably pick it up. the challenge is really in how you apply them anyway.
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Feb 9, 2017 05:31
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download the vm from cloudera and go through their tutorial using it https://www.cloudera.com/developers/get-started-with-hadoop-tutorial.html
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Feb 9, 2017 05:40
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:it's a goon referral. the poo poo i didn't know was hadoop, map-reduce, and python. i checked all the other boxes. i know what hadoop/map-reduce are so i assume i could probably pick it up. the challenge is really in how you apply them anyway. python is easy to pick up anyway as long as you're not expecting to memorize the standard library but then why would you?
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Feb 9, 2017 05:40
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hobbesmaster posted:download the vm from cloudera and go through their tutorial using it https://www.cloudera.com/developers/get-started-with-hadoop-tutorial.html thanks for this. i'll check it out. we use hadoop internally im pretty sure so its a skill that i could use to transfer to another team even if i don't score a sweet new gig.
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Feb 9, 2017 05:47
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if you learned mumps then you can probably pick up python imo
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Feb 9, 2017 13:38
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Just got invited to my first mostly programming job interview next week :yay: I've been asked to prepare answers for about how I would approach a project for writing a new open source library. This isn't something I really have experience with, so I would appreciate any links or advice people might have as to how you would scope out a project like this, deal with it being open sores and I guess more specifically I should go about actually implementing something so its a usable library, rather than just a bunch of scripts that do poo poo (which is basically all that I do at the moment).
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Feb 9, 2017 14:27
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meanwhile final approval for my transfer is now sitting in front of the president of the company so i am now completely powerless to harass anyone to move things along. it is really hard to be productive when your fate is literally in somebody else's hands.
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Feb 9, 2017 15:34
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you have to have the president of the company personally sign off on a department transfer?
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Feb 9, 2017 15:57
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fart simpson posted:you have to have the president of the company personally sign off on a department transfer? this place is insane. the president of the company signs off on literally everything that affects budget. he had to personally sign off on all my tuition reimbursements too. there's 10,000 people here but they still act like it's a 100 person company.
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Feb 9, 2017 16:11
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vodkat posted:Just got invited to my first mostly programming job interview next week :yay: http://www.aosabook.org/en/index.html
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Feb 9, 2017 17:10
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:this place is insane. the president of the company signs off on literally everything that affects budget. he had to personally sign off on all my tuition reimbursements too. there's 10,000 people here but they still act like it's a 100 person company. lol sounds like your president has control issues, maybe they should take a page from one of the many platitude filled business books they undoubtedly read that or they're trying to emulate other control freaks
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Feb 9, 2017 17:24
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:this place is insane. the president of the company signs off on literally everything that affects budget. he had to personally sign off on all my tuition reimbursements too. there's 10,000 people here but they still act like it's a 100 person company. it seems like in a company as big as epic he wouldnt have time to do anything else, in which case he would basically just be a finance controller???
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Feb 9, 2017 17:24
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fart simpson posted:it seems like in a company as big as epic he wouldnt have time to do anything else, in which case he would basically just be a finance controller??? honestly, is there anything wrong with this? once you get to the C-suite the exact duties can be pretty permeable. sometimes the COO is the one who makes the strategic decisions, not a CEO. sometimes the CEO does financial controls, not the CFO. sometimes the CTO pulls the levers and all this goes double for a private or closely-held company
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Feb 9, 2017 17:28
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fart simpson posted:it seems like in a company as big as epic he wouldnt have time to do anything else, in which case he would basically just be a finance controller??? yet apparently he has time to fly all over the place doing business things. basically epic started as just the CEO, and then she hired the President to help her with the programming. 35 years later they are still the CEO and president and all the management directly under them are also people from the early years when it was a <100 people company. they seem completely unwilling to adapt to the fact that they're now an enormous corporate giant and it will probably catch up to them eventually.
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Feb 9, 2017 17:28
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fart simpson posted:you have to have the president of the company personally sign off on a department transfer? my last place was even more insane. we were bought out by a company that was bought out etc several times, or something. so what would happen is we'd have to get approval from our company, then our parent company, then our parent parent company, etc up like five levels we would interview somebody and decide we liked them and it would take four weeks to actually get the offer approved. of course by then any good people already had an offer elsewhere sometimes you could get an offer pre approved for like two weeks! then if you didn't actually interview somebody you liked in that time it would expire and you'd have to go through the process again ugggh
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Feb 9, 2017 17:39
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lol if your interview to offer turnaround time is only four weeks, just lol
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Feb 9, 2017 17:42
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:honestly, is there anything wrong with this? idk i guess. im 4 levels down from the Cs so idk what goes on up there
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Feb 9, 2017 17:42
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Bloody posted:lol if your interview to offer turnaround time is only four weeks, just lol yeah seriously. a few years back we wanted to make a real offer to one of our interns and we started the approval process 3 months before the end of her internship and we couldn't actually give her the formal offer until a month after her internship ended. it's even worse for normal hires.
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Feb 9, 2017 17:44
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Bloody posted:lol if your interview to offer turnaround time is only four weeks, just lol my workplace is known to sometimes have horrendous turnaround time on offers (like 1.5 years awful) they try to accelerate it a lot in some areas but its just awful how extreme it gets
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Feb 9, 2017 17:45
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lancemantis posted:1.5 years what the
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Feb 9, 2017 17:47
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yeah a lot of that is fluctuations in funding as well people will leave whatever job they have after that 1.5 year mark though so I guess they won't learn
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Feb 9, 2017 17:50
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idk every time I've applied to a job turnaround was 1-2 weeks  all I know is everybody who we had as a first choice to hire always accepted an offer elsewhere before we even had ours ready to give themeither that or our interview process scared everybody off. that's possible too
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Feb 9, 2017 18:15
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also I realize it wasn't clear but it was the same process for internal transfers and external hires
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Feb 9, 2017 18:16
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i talked to a recruiter and literally the next week he hosed off to be an account manager at yelp. i 've had a few interviews at places since thanks to some inside buddies and one of them didn't want to talk to me since i didn't have any experience with tdd and the other one was just a culture fit interview and the guy rambled on about scratch and sniff wallpaper and i probably said maybe a dozen words total and i had to ask my guy to beg hr with what was up (nothing, not a culture fit). and then i went into a spiral of depression. today i looked at linkedin jobs and the first one under entry level wanted a masters degree and 5 years experience to do jr java ecommerce stuff. i think i'd rather be a shadetree plumber at this point
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Feb 9, 2017 18:27
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ive never gotten a job where they didnt make an offer the day after (or even the same day)
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Feb 9, 2017 18:33
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Maximum Leader posted:ive never gotten a job where they didnt make an offer the day after (or even the same day) same and it's not like i go for really difficult jobs, but the imposter syndrome has gotten worse over the years
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Feb 9, 2017 18:39
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every job i've gotten had two interviews: one to make sure i wasn't an idiot, and one to make sure i wasn't an rear end in a top hat separate days though
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Feb 9, 2017 18:40
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Maximum Leader posted:ive never gotten a job where they didnt make an offer the day after (or even the same day) fastest turnaround i've has was at my current job. internal recruiter contacted me on a friday, had in-person interview the following friday, and an offer on monday.
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Feb 9, 2017 18:50
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Bloody posted:lol if your interview to offer turnaround time is only four weeks, just lol
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Feb 9, 2017 19:01
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except for my first job, every job ive had since has been due to cronyism but even when the job is essentially guaranteed upfront its always taken 1+ months for the bureaucracy of HR and poo poo to go forward
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Feb 9, 2017 19:03
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I had an interview on Monday. yesterday morning the recruiter notified me that they want to make an offer. now we get to have the compensation talk.
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Feb 9, 2017 19:05
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hifi posted:i talked to a recruiter and literally the next week he hosed off to be an account manager at yelp. i 've had a few interviews at places since thanks to some inside buddies and one of them didn't want to talk to me since i didn't have any experience with tdd and the other one was just a culture fit interview and the guy rambled on about scratch and sniff wallpaper and i probably said maybe a dozen words total and i had to ask my guy to beg hr with what was up (nothing, not a culture fit). and then i went into a spiral of depression. today i looked at linkedin jobs and the first one under entry level wanted a masters degree and 5 years experience to do jr java ecommerce stuff. i think i'd rather be a shadetree plumber at this point dont give up hope just shotgun applications to literally every company that exists in whatever field you want to work on
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Feb 9, 2017 19:48
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mishaq posted:except for my first job, every job ive had since has been due to cronyism every job ive had due to applying through the company's website lol if you have social skills and network with people like some sort of self-pimp
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Feb 9, 2017 19:52
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poty posted:lol if you have social skills and network with people like some sort of self-pimp they come to me
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Feb 9, 2017 20:17
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when did "reaching out to old coworkers when you need a new job" become self-pimping? also, mishaq posted:they come to me same
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Feb 9, 2017 20:44
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I got hired onto my current job of 8.5 years for C++ and that's primarily what I've been doing For the last ~3 years I've done a few side projects in C#, a couple small WPF/MVVM apps. Probably not enough to claim expertise but enough to be confident that I can look up answers How would I put that on my CV or resume or whatever it is now to give myself the best outlook for a C# job Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Feb 9, 2017 |
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Feb 9, 2017 21:15
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