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veedubfreak posted:hay, Yeah, of course! gently caress you,  thanks to your braindead decisions I'm losing all my skills without ever being able to buy them back. Now I'm even regretting retroactively the couple bucks I've spend on this game.
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DancingShade posted:I've got some bad news. qft
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Artificer posted:Fiddling in the mechlab, the Linebacker really is pretty garbo... It's one of those mechs that looks garbage on paper but plays surprisingly well.
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gently caress the huntsman right in the ear
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TjyvTompa posted:For Energy Draw there was people that actually liked it but the backlash was so severe that they completely dropped the idea. I can't find anyone that likes this new skill system, not even people like me that like it just because it fucks over most other people. I wonder how this fucks over their new idea with mech packs, I also wonder how they will re-make the skill system once the new weapon systems get added when the technology advances, doubt they thought about that at all. Interesting times. It's not like the skill tree can't be fixed into something good, either. I want the skill tree to be good, but pgi being , they had to gently caress it up royally with nonsense bullshit.
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Freakazoid_ posted:It's not like the skill tree can't be fixed into something good, either. I want the skill tree to be good, but pgi being It is my personal opinion that they can't make a good truly customizable skill system because the difference between people running the best builds with the best skills and people running bracket builds with haphazardly picked skills is too great without some kind of static bonuses i.e. quirks. Today they balance the game with quirks, what they want to do is to leave the balancing up to the players, for the players to pick the best skills, but there are too many "I want to play this game like I played MW2, with bad builds and a joystick" for it to work. Just today there was a guy on reddit crying about how badly he does in an assault while using a joystick. People try to tell him that the game doesn't work good with a joystick due to the need to continuously put lasers on the enemy but he refuses to listen because he played MW2 with a joystick and it's more immersive and..... well you understand.
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People like those would profit from Players vs. Environment mode. Kinda like L4D had normal play and Versus. (aka PvE and PvP).
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Tank Boy Ken posted:People like those would profit from Players vs. Environment mode. Kinda like L4D had normal play and Versus. (aka PvE and PvP). People would love a MWO PvE mode and have been clamoring for it from the start. The problem, as always, is .
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Feb 10, 2017 15:51
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Skoll posted:People would love a MWO PvE mode and have been clamoring for it from the start. The problem, as always, is If MW:O would be 4vs4 in PvP (with groups just going up against equal groups, so 2+2 vs. 2+2, 4vs4) you'd even have less matchmaking worries. Alas 12 vs 12 was choosen as holy goal. Though it's easy to be a critic with the advantage of hindsight. People like to win, and it's okay for people to have their fun in PvE. Given enough customization options for $, even that can be profitable. See: Fallout SinglePlayer F2P game.
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Feb 10, 2017 15:54
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Tank Boy Ken posted:If MW:O would be 4vs4 in PvP (with groups just going up against equal groups, so 2+2 vs. 2+2, 4vs4) you'd even have less matchmaking worries. Alas 12 vs 12 was choosen as holy goal. Though it's easy to be a critic with the advantage of hindsight. Frankly I don't see why they didn't just stick with 8v8 and leave the 12v12 for cw when they put that in. You wanna play a bigger match? Go play the bigger match mode. Bonus: we could still have the old good maps that were "too small for 24 players"
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8v8 seemed like a good size to help with mm concerns and also would help increase time spent alive which would fix a lot of the alpha meta. Also I never played during 8v8 so
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Freakazoid_ posted:It's not like the skill tree can't be fixed into something good, either. I want the skill tree to be good, but pgi being 1) Replace weapon class skill branches with generic ones, so weapon boating doesn't become the only option (e.g. Heat / Range / Cooldown / Accuracy branches, where Accuracy = duration / velocity / charge / spread as appropriate) 2) Either keep the current mech quirks, or replace some of the more pigeonholing ones with bonus skill points, so the Tier 2 and under mechs aren't totally hosed 3) Waive the CBills cost for skill nodes when you use Legacy XP, so that long-term players can afford to keep their mech stables There. This would not be enough to make it good, but at least it wouldn't be "white knights quitting the game" bad, and it's not like the current system is a masterpiece of game design either. To actually make it good, I guess it would require some combination of un-loving the garbage skill branches and/or introducing diminishing returns to encourage mix-n-matching various trees and/or reducing the max amount of skill points to both lessen the grind and prevent you from just picking all the good trees. But that's the kind of tuning you figure out in playtesting; the three point I listed at the top are poo poo any brain-damaged monkey should have brought up in the first design meeting.
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I mean at bare minimum they need to consider how many nodes are available for each 'mech right now the KDK-3 can get armor/structure quirks, speed/mobility quirks, yaw quirks, and can ball out with UAC jam chance/velocity/cooldown quirks. it doesn't need, uh, like any of those and it gets as many options as, say, the VND-1X
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Our Liao contract has run out, I can't rock the PUG queue naked, someone fix it.
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quote:We'd also like to inform everyone that while the Skill Tree was initially slated for a release in our upcoming patch on February 21st, we are now targeting a release for the March 21st patch to ensure sufficient time for iteration and improvement on the PTS client.
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quote:We're taken aback by the reaction to the new skill system so we're having several panic meetings to try and figure out a way to fix it that doesn't result in us haemorrhaging money and players.
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They cant seriously have thought 2 weeks was enough time to fix what needs fixing on that skill tree change. I thought that was an alpha-level proof of concept.  e; Hell, two weeks isnt even enough time to test and implement any feedback they DID get. They were seriously planning on using the PTS to preview the change and then dumping it as is into live.
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Sounds good to me, on March 21st I will already be 6 days into an actual fun BattleTech game and MWO will be a quickly fading memory.
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Great Beer posted:They cant seriously have thought 2 weeks was enough time to fix what needs fixing on that skill tree change. I thought that was an alpha-level proof of concept. Supposedly they have been working on this new skillsystem for at least 7 months.
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I wonder really though how bad the player base will be hit. It's no one but BT fans playing anyhow, why else would they when there are so many better arena games? I just wish I could be a fly in the wall at PGI that week.
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Omar_Comin posted:Sounds good to me, on March 21st I will already be 6 days into an actual fun BattleTech game and MWO will be a quickly fading memory. Beta doesn't contain campaign, though. Gotta wait for that to get the greatest experience.
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Great Beer posted:They cant seriously have thought 2 weeks was enough time to fix what needs fixing on that skill tree change. I thought that was an alpha-level proof of concept. It was supposed to hit in mid-to-late January after the patch but a collection of odd circumstances delayed it to this week.
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Sky Shadowing posted:Beta doesn't contain campaign, though. Gotta wait for that to get the greatest experience. It will have PvP, so blowing up other people's 'Mechs in a non-PGI game is already going to be the greatest experience.
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Artificer posted:SRMs or LRMs? 2 lrm20s and 2 medium lasers
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Goast posted:2 lrm20s and 2 medium lasers Yeah, that's Polar Highlands for you. Bring a TAG next time though, for the CBills if nothing else.
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Have the Battletech guys raised their prices yet? The site says you can only be a "late backer" now, but the price is still at $25, which I think was the initial pitch?
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Goes up on/after the 15th of this month.
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Phrosphor posted:The problem with MC2 is once you work out the AI's terrible secret the game gets pretty trivial. Playing a bunch of MC Omnitech (aka improved MC2) it looks like they fixed that AI problem. I haven't been able to exploit it the way you could in vanilla MC2. For anyone who's curious, mechs in vanilla MC2 would lock onto the first enemy they saw and pursue it until it died. This meant that you could kite a whole lance of assaults with a light mech while your assaults pounded them from close range. In MC Omnitech they disengage once the light gets out of the range of their longest range weapon and turn to something else.
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I like MC Omnitech but sometimes going to a waypoint won't trigger the objective correctly and you can't finish the mission. anyone know of a fix?
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New event, lasts until the 20th. No great prizes but it's super easy.quote:Complete at least one of the two options below for the prize of Plush Bear, Locket hanging item, and 500,000 C-Bills quote:Complete at least one of the two options below for the prize of Sparkling Wine Bottle, Hanging Lantern, and 500,000 C-Bills quote:Personal Challenge
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Pattonesque posted:I like MC Omnitech but sometimes going to a waypoint won't trigger the objective correctly and you can't finish the mission. anyone know of a fix? I haven't had that happen in at least the past two years. It's maintained pretty regularly, maybe they fixed it? By the way, there's also a port of the campaign from vanilla MC2 for MC:O if anyone really misses that. http://www.moddb.com/mods/mechcommander-omnitech/downloads/carver-v-campaign
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Q_res posted:Goes up on/after the 15th of this month. I thought it goes up on the day of Beta release, which means March 15? E: No, you're right, February 15th, the costs go up. More probably for pre-ordering reasons than backing. Sky Shadowing fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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PSA: Marik violet color on sale until feb 20. Also two of the best decals: Lips and Heart. Load up while you can. Broken heart and one of the shields(or a banner, I think) stacks nicely if you want to make dongs.
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I think the LBX20 Adder has taken the "my favorite mech" throne from the Urbie...
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Gotta ask, Stalker for large laser boating, or Marauder for 4 er ppc sniping? They on sale right now and I dont wanna keep saving for timber wolf and i want something long range finally.
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ThirdLight posted:Gotta ask, Stalker for large laser boating, or Marauder for 4 er ppc sniping? They on sale right now and I dont wanna keep saving for timber wolf and i want something long range finally. Between the two builds you suggested, the Stalker is far more reliable and good. Stalkers are also pretty versatile.
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