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Retromancer posted:The point of the cartoon is that the judges are giving due process to non-us citizens, who are not protected under the constitution. It's the lovely argument used to justify the ban. Yes they loving are you moron! "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". Not "no citizen" or "no American". "No person". NO. PERSON. IT'S TWO loving WORDS.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 10:11 |
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Don't forget Trumpists literally rewriting the Constitution in their own minds so that instead of persons it says citizens.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 10:13 |
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Jerusalem posted:Wait... it's NOT intended to be taken at face value? Apple Pie Hubbub posted:1 ....nevermind
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Keiya posted:Yes they loving are you moron! "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". Not "no citizen" or "no American". "No person". NO. PERSON. IT'S TWO loving WORDS. You think republicans consider non-citizens to be people?
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Keiya posted:Yes they loving are you moron! "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". Not "no citizen" or "no American". "No person". NO. PERSON. IT'S TWO loving WORDS. The Constitution also starts "We, the People", though. There's a logical case to be made for the drafters to be talking only about the citizens of the United States when they refer to people or a person, because they had no right to refer to anyone else. This goes double when most of your nation only exists because a whole heap of non-citizens were deprived of their lives, liberty and property.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 10:26 |
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Well, it's like the saying goes, "those who do not study history are doomed to prove themselves delusional dumbfucks who have no idea what they're talking about and need to shut the gently caress up forever." Or something like that.
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Jedit posted:The Constitution also starts "We, the People", though. There's a logical case to be made for the drafters to be talking only about the citizens of the United States when they refer to people or a person, because they had no right to refer to anyone else. This goes double when most of your nation only exists because a whole heap of non-citizens were deprived of their lives, liberty and property. That's a very flimsy argument, especially since the 14th Amendment actually does use the word "citizen" in its text, before switching to "person" later. That change would be deliberate; otherwise they'd have kept using "citizen". Also, the amendment is limiting what the government can do; it's not governing non-citizens, it's telling the government they can't unjustly gently caress with people, regardless of who they are. Edit: Also, the 14th Amendment wasn't drafted with the rest of the Constitution, it came later. So your argument about the drafters is doubly-flawed. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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Angepain posted:You think republicans consider non- There we go
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Jedit posted:The Constitution also starts "We, the People", though. There's a logical case to be made for the drafters to be talking only about the citizens of the United States when they refer to people or a person, because they had no right to refer to anyone else. "We the people of the United States" If the drafters only meant citizens of the USA when using the word people (or person), why add "of the United States"? Either the people who drafted the Constitution are bad at logic and writing, or they intended for people to be a more broad category within which citizens and inhabitants of the United States are subsets.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 11:16 |
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Internet Kraken posted:Trump is the literal embodiment of everything Latuff hates about the US. You'd think his caricature of him would be more hateful. I don't think it registers to him as anything but more of the same. For most of us, the past few weeks have been somewhere between nightmarish and downright traumatic, but for Carlos Latuff, it was February.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 11:22 |
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Angepain posted:Hey maybe I just filter it out but you know what we haven't seen much of lately? Thread favourite master of subtlety Carlos Latuff! Edit - yes, I did in fact open the tab several hours before replying. :/
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 12:29 |
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Keiya posted:Yes they loving are you moron! "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law". Not "no citizen" or "no American". "No person". NO. PERSON. IT'S TWO loving WORDS. Ah but see, if you go by a strict originalist interpretation of what the Founding Fathers really intended, then the Constitution gets to say that America is to become a fascist monarchy when Republicans are in power. It's written here plain as day. --The ghost of Antonin Scalia
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Office Pig posted:But enough about Steve Bannon... Wait are you saying someone married that walking dung fly?
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 13:13 |
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Ularg posted:Wait are you saying someone married that walking dung fly? There is always more and it is always worse.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 14:10 |
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Tobermory posted:There is always more and it is always worse. I hate this world so God-damned much.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 14:24 |
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Seriously?
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 15:18 |
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Guardian: "Martin Rowson on Jeremy Hunt and the NHS – Jeremy Hunt said that performance in some parts of the NHS is “completely unacceptable”, adding there is “no excuse” for some of the problems being seen in the health service" Telegraph: Donald Trump loses court battle to reinstate travel ban Times: After Hockney. Stephen Collins:
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 15:25 |
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1Context posted:Macy's facing pressure to drop Ivanka Trump line 2 Context posted:Boy Scouts will allow transgender children into programs 3 Context posted:Warren barred from speaking on Senate floor for rest of Sessions debate 4 context posted:Celebrities weigh in on Betsy DeVos confirmation: 'This is murdering' our school system
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 16:06 |
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Apple Pie Hubbub posted:1 Gonna quote this again because just go ahead and shut down the AGC Gayby category. This is the literal definition of unbelievable, I cannot physically believe this cartoon exists.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 16:30 |
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I 100% believe Lester supports the Holocaust and wants another one, focused entirely on LGBTQ people and all non-whites.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 16:54 |
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I like this one. Would have been better though if the US symbol-bird had been the Turkey.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 17:10 |
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school food - famous for being good before michelle obama got her hands on it
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 17:21 |
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Apple Pie Hubbub posted:1 Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy!
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 17:34 |
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Pancho Jueves posted:Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy! The left is hot and cool looking while the right are frigid and falling apart, AGC
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Pancho Jueves posted:Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy! The left looks like it's constantly shifting but it's ultimately stable and easy to understand. Meanwhile the right's policies mean that it will completely destroy itself within a generation, creating horrific worldwide consequences that they won't be alive to reap the consequences for. AGC
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Pancho Jueves posted:Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy! hmmm, i'm beginning to see a running theme where lester isn't very good at political commentary
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Pancho Jueves posted:Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy! Society is in a constant state of change, and we need to govern accordingly, instead of being rigid and inflexible. AGC.
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Pancho Jueves posted:Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy! For the left, the Constitution is a source of illumination, functional even if a bit tacky. For the right, it is an inhospitable, desolate hazard to navigation.
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Doc Hawkins posted:I don't think it registers to him as anything but more of the same. For most of us, the past few weeks have been somewhere between nightmarish and downright traumatic, but for Carlos Latuff, it was FTFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlhOUyy4wbs
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Pancho Jueves posted:Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy! the left wants to get high and listen to pink floyd the right wants to watch titanic the eye doctor is kinda nervous about how he's going to point at any words above the current line.
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 18:41 |
This is bad?
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Pancho Jueves posted:Thankfully, we know Lester supports the Constitution as the bedrock of our democracy, so clearly the cartoon is in support of the court's decision and not some hacky partisan hypocrisy! The left and the right both look at the constitution and realize that it's incredibly boring, and thus daydream about other more interesting things, AGC
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mandatory lesbian posted:school food - famous for being good before michelle obama got her hands on it And don't forget how much money she tried to make from personally selling that food!
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Whoa, Kellyanne Conway is high as gently caress
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Tritanomalicious posted:Whoa, Kellyanne Conway is high as gently caress That cant be her she still looks... alive-ish. She is a lich just like Dick Cheney was
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:41 |
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# ? Feb 11, 2017 19:53 |
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Remember that Trump is supposed to be the good guy in this cartoon.
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1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBZr4n7SiMo That's the rowdiest I've ever seen Utahns. 2 3 4
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