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Chimp_On_Stilts
Aug 31, 2004
Holy Hell.
Some inspiration for the next time you're at a local political function:

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/830257984680972289

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Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

Chimp_On_Stilts posted:

Some inspiration for the next time you're at a local political function:

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/830257984680972289

Who is this guy?

BitcoinRockefeller
May 11, 2003

God gave me my money.

Hair Elf

Oi nerdio I'm paying dues in Wisconsin as well.

Jonas Albrecht
Jun 7, 2012


Dues paying IL DSA guy here, please notice me, OP.

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

still a dues paying member, still in california, still not in the OP :mad:


made a thing. not happy with the acronym. o well, someone else can do a better one now


juggalos imo

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Ohio socialists get at me

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

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cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

Crowsbeak posted:

Who is this guy?
Someone who I wish I could vote for

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Orlando DSA executive committee recently asked the Knights for Socialism anti-fash boxing dude to withdraw from the race for Vice President. I'm voting for his opponent but I still think that's bullshit.

e: There was a big stink in part because they did it publicly on Facebook, speaking as the official DSA Orlando page.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

platzapS posted:

Orlando DSA executive committee recently asked the Knights for Socialism anti-fash boxing dude to withdraw from the race for Vice President. I'm voting for his opponent but I still think that's bullshit.

e: There was a big stink in part because they did it publicly on Facebook, speaking as the official DSA Orlando page.

omg more orlando DSA goons

anyway I wonder what happened, I saw the drama after it happened on FB but wondered why. KFS leader man seems pretty cool. Though he might be a tankie.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Ace are you at this DSA Denver meeting? I'm here with my wife, shirt with a tree-like thing on it.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy

cheese posted:

Someone who I wish I could vote for

Well duh. But we need a name, we need more people like him, so he needs to be brought to the forefront of the cause.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Internet Explorer posted:

Ace are you at this DSA Denver meeting? I'm here with my wife, shirt with a tree-like thing on it.

No my parents are in town so im not doing any activizing this weekend, I'll be @ the RTJ show tonite tho.

Unbelievably Fat Man
Jun 1, 2000

Innocent people. I could never hurt innocent people.


Just got back from the Boston general meeting. drat that was a shitload of people crammed into a tiny space. Very well run though.

Wutang-Yutani CORP
Sep 25, 2005

CORPORATIONS
RULE
EVERYTHING
AROUND
ME

Chimp_On_Stilts posted:

Some inspiration for the next time you're at a local political function:

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/830257984680972289

Carpet bombing truth

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Phi230 posted:

omg more orlando DSA goons

anyway I wonder what happened, I saw the drama after it happened on FB but wondered why. KFS leader man seems pretty cool. Though he might be a tankie.

"Tankie" is something that only matters on the internet right now and wont matter for many years unless we are extraordinarily lucky. If anything the old DSA tradition is too anti Communist, probably born from the defeats of the 80s and 90s. That kind of timidity is no longer rational.

That said, this dude is much better as a provocateur than as a bureaucrat. I'm excited by what he does but dont want to have to waste time apologizing for him.

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

Unbelievably Fat Man posted:

Just got back from the Boston general meeting. drat that was a shitload of people crammed into a tiny space. Very well run though.

Yeah it was pretty good. I was there too, the one with the annoying kid.

MShadowy
Sep 30, 2013

dammit eyes don't work that way!



Fun Shoe
Just got back from the Denver DSA meeting; glad I had a chance to participate. Got pretty hot in that little room with all the people attending, but that's fine.

Time to set aside some money for bus tickets and the like; I can't always be borrowing the family car.

Oh Hell No
Oct 10, 2007

I've got the world on a string.


Oh, sweet, I finally found the FB pages for a couple Florida chapters that aren't listed on the DSA site.

https://www.facebook.com/DSAJax/

https://www.facebook.com/South-Florida-DSA-1191383190957855/

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

Oh Hell No posted:

Oh, sweet, I finally found the FB pages for a couple Florida chapters that aren't listed on the DSA site.

https://www.facebook.com/DSAJax/

https://www.facebook.com/South-Florida-DSA-1191383190957855/

There are unreasonably few Florida branches right now, this is very encouraging. Tampa has a lot of interested people but I don't know if they have an official organizing committee yet.

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
I feel pretty far from my chapter so it feels harder to participate :smith:

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


Tallahassee (FL) OC committee checking in, meeting this Friday to form :toot:

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

lancemantis posted:

I feel pretty far from my chapter so it feels harder to participate :smith:

That's when you recruit your neighbors, radicalize some friends, and start your own. :kheldragar:

MShadowy
Sep 30, 2013

dammit eyes don't work that way!



Fun Shoe

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

That's when you recruit your neighbors, radicalize some friends, and start your own. :kheldragar:

It's definitely a plan, but my family have all somehow become quietly conservative and I'm stuck living with them in the middle of white suburbia; the message so far hasn't gone over super well. Hopefully I can improve my approach enough to get them to come around.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

MShadowy posted:

It's definitely a plan, but my family have all somehow become quietly conservative and I'm stuck living with them in the middle of white suburbia; the message so far hasn't gone over super well. Hopefully I can improve my approach enough to get them to come around.

I've found the most convincing way to approach it is to address the power dynamics of capitalism. If your family members are small business owners then it's not going to work, because they're already the powerful class. :shrug:

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
If you have any retired relatives remind them that Medicare they keeps them alive is socialism

Oh Hell No
Oct 10, 2007

I've got the world on a string.


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I've found the most convincing way to approach it is to address the power dynamics of capitalism. If your family members are small business owners then it's not going to work, because they're already the powerful class. :shrug:

my dad at least concurs with me that big business has too much political influence and that NAFTA has screwed over the working class, unfortunately his takeaway is that everything needs to be deregulated so that smaller businesses can compete

he is also not fond of The Blacks (he grew up in small town Georgia)

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

That's when you recruit your neighbors, radicalize some friends, and start your own. :kheldragar:

yeah I've though about this, just not enough friends and neighbors and I don't feel confident in meeting the chapter requirements at this point

I tried to nudge my wife a little about it but she's from Eastern Europe so she's mostly been wondering what the hell I'm getting into

GlyphGryph
Jun 23, 2013

Down came the glitches and burned us in ditches and we slept after eating our dead.

lancemantis posted:

I feel pretty far from my chapter so it feels harder to participate :smith:

Be What You Want to See

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

thing

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the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

ThatBasqueGuy posted:

Tallahassee (FL) OC committee checking in, meeting this Friday to form :toot:

can't believe freaking Tallahassee has enough interested people for an OC but not Tampa, which has 20 times as many people

Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica
If you are not sure how to get a chapter off the ground, the best thing you can do is set up a Facebook page, a twitter handle, and an email account for it. If you provide the outlet, people will come to it. All you need is 5 people to start the official process, and 15 to get on the national website.

Pay your dues to the national office and then use their online submission to indicate that you would like to try and start a chapter in your area. They are pretty overwhelmed with everything at the moment, but if nothing else they can point you towards some intro/organizing webinars that help give you context and an intro to ground game for organizing.

Finally, reach out to the closest chapters in your area and let them know that you are trying to start a chapter a little closer to home. If you're lucky there might already be one or two other people close by that have been driving into the city(s) for meetings that would love to be somewhere a little close to home. It also allows the existing chapters to send appropriate new inquiries your way.

People are really receptive to the DSA's message right now, even in places that are usually written off as Regressive Dumbfukistan. Worst that happens is there's a dead facebook page and twitter handle six months down the line.

Also, in regards to spreading Socialist gospel to friends and fam, I've found in my centrist oriented family, a lot of folks are really resonating with how hosed up the healthcare system is. So maybe try that angle?

no more books
Aug 4, 2011
I read a post that said their meeting was very well run. What makes for a well run meeting, in everyone's opinion?

Oh Hell No
Oct 10, 2007

I've got the world on a string.


Fullhouse posted:

can't believe freaking Tallahassee has enough interested people for an OC but not Tampa, which has 20 times as many people

Seriously, how does Tampa have Communist League and IWW chapters but no DSA?

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

no more books posted:

I read a post that said their meeting was very well run. What makes for a well run meeting, in everyone's opinion?

Respect people's time!
Start promptly.
Stick to a clear agenda and publish the agenda beforehand.
If someone starts on a long rant, invite them to start a committee for working on the issue.
Go out for drinks after

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

Chimp_On_Stilts posted:

Some inspiration for the next time you're at a local political function:

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/830257984680972289

This Guy/Zach 2020

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe
Yeah the first thing I noticed was a real risk of things turning into cathartic ranting time

Greatbacon posted:

If you are not sure how to get a chapter off the ground, the best thing you can do is set up a Facebook page, a twitter handle, and an email account for it. If you provide the outlet, people will come to it. All you need is 5 people to start the official process, and 15 to get on the national website.

Pay your dues to the national office and then use their online submission to indicate that you would like to try and start a chapter in your area. They are pretty overwhelmed with everything at the moment, but if nothing else they can point you towards some intro/organizing webinars that help give you context and an intro to ground game for organizing.

Finally, reach out to the closest chapters in your area and let them know that you are trying to start a chapter a little closer to home. If you're lucky there might already be one or two other people close by that have been driving into the city(s) for meetings that would love to be somewhere a little close to home. It also allows the existing chapters to send appropriate new inquiries your way.

People are really receptive to the DSA's message right now, even in places that are usually written off as Regressive Dumbfukistan. Worst that happens is there's a dead facebook page and twitter handle six months down the line.

Also, in regards to spreading Socialist gospel to friends and fam, I've found in my centrist oriented family, a lot of folks are really resonating with how hosed up the healthcare system is. So maybe try that angle?

Thanks for this post; I think I also just need to just get the logistics of getting around Oakland/Berkeley worked out and that will help a lot

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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006

Dreddout posted:

Nah the Dems have always been a party for the elite.

DSA people who think the Dems can be reclaimed should carefully study what happened to the Rainbow/PUSH coalition between 1984, when Jesse Jackson ran for president on a platform of multiracial social democracy (at the helm of an energized left wing coalition that even included Maoist factions), to 1992 when Bill Clinton won the general election thanks in no small part to Jackson's leftist activists, to 1994 when the same Bill Clinton signed the crime bill and enacted welfare reform.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

thing

ChickenOfTomorrow has issued a correction as of 22:00 on Sep 28, 2021

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Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:

DSA people who think the Dems can be reclaimed should carefully study what happened to the Rainbow/PUSH coalition between 1984, when Jesse Jackson ran for president on a platform of multiracial social democracy (at the helm of an energized left wing coalition that even included Maoist factions), to 1992 when Bill Clinton won the general election thanks in no small part to Jackson's leftist activists, to 1994 when the same Bill Clinton signed the crime bill and enacted welfare reform.

this though. we don't reclaim the dems, we parasitize them

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