Chichevache posted:"Sportsball", he lisped. History thread Lol
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Feb 8, 2017 08:45
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Well into the 20th century butter was accepted currency in Norway. In 1617 you could actually pay your taxes with butter.
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Feb 8, 2017 19:40
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Alhazred posted:Well into the 20th century butter was accepted currency in Norway. In 1617 you could actually pay your taxes with butter. Stuffing an envelope full of butter and mailing it to the IRS as we speak!
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Feb 8, 2017 22:11
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BRB, organizing delivery of a pallet of Cheetos® to the White House.
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Feb 8, 2017 22:21
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Alhazred posted:Well into the 20th century butter was accepted currency in Norway. In 1617 you could actually pay your taxes with butter. They paid taxes with barrels of cod in my hometown at least until 1661, maybe later even.
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Feb 8, 2017 23:25
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Powaqoatse posted:They paid taxes with barrels of cod in my hometown at least until 1661, maybe later even. Could you fill the barrels with more water than fish to cheat on your taxes?
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Feb 9, 2017 02:08
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Solice Kirsk posted:Could you fill the barrels with more water than fish to cheat on your taxes? If you think "can you cheat on your taxes doing X?" then at least one person has tried it. It's probably at least partly apocryphal but that's part of how brandy came into being. At the time taxes on wine were levied by volume in a lot of places so when distillation was invented people figured "well hey if we just distill it then add water later we'll have less taxes on wine!" Well it didn't quite work out that way but people liked the non-watered down stuff anyway so it stuck. It also kept way longer than wine which made it easier to trade and transport.
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Feb 9, 2017 02:15
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I remember that episode of Good Eats!
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Feb 9, 2017 09:07
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Solice Kirsk posted:Could you fill the barrels with more water than fish to cheat on your taxes? I'm sure some people tried, but the punishments were pretty severe so they only tried once. 
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Feb 9, 2017 09:18
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Solice Kirsk posted:Could you fill the barrels with more water than fish to cheat on your taxes? I would imagine it was dried cod.
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Feb 9, 2017 14:17
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Freudian slippers posted:I would imagine it was dried cod. Not if they poured water on it.
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Feb 9, 2017 23:55
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Solice Kirsk posted:Not if they poured water on it. That would be pretty lovely salt cod. I guess you could add more salt then fish though.
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Feb 10, 2017 01:23
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This tax cheat is sounding like more trouble than its worth. Why would they even do this?!
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Feb 10, 2017 03:25
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Solice Kirsk posted:This tax cheat is sounding like more trouble than its worth. Why would they even do this?! Cod is expensive.
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Feb 10, 2017 04:39
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The Romans believed that eagles and sea-calves were never struck by lightning so they would bury the corpses of these animals in buildings in the hope that it would prevent them from being struck by lightning.
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Feb 10, 2017 14:16
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Boardroom Jimmy posted:The Romans believed that eagles and sea-calves were never struck by lightning so they would bury the corpses of these animals in buildings in the hope that it would prevent them from being struck by lightning. Bet it worked more times than not.
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Feb 10, 2017 15:12
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I'm imagining Doc and Marty trying to go forward in time from a Roman city but they can't find the buried eagle that protects the building they're using.
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Feb 10, 2017 19:12
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Morty! Morty, you gotta :beeellch: strangle that manatee, Morty. You gotta kill it real good. We're not getting through that lightning nebula without it.
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Feb 10, 2017 20:38
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 For two hundred years, Spanish galleons plied the seas between Acapulco and Manila. Westbound ships passed south of Hawai‘i. Eastbound shipped passed north of it. Generations of Spanish mariners spent their lives circling Hawai‘i and died in ignorance of it. Europe wouldn’t learn of the archipelago till James Cook’s third voyage in 1778.
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Feb 11, 2017 12:21
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Suspect Bucket posted:Morty! Morty, you gotta :beeellch: strangle that manatee, Morty. You gotta kill it real good. We're not getting through that lightning nebula without it. Oh jeez, Rick. I dunno that I can stab this thing with this pugio! It's at least a few hundred years outdated from the gladius
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Feb 11, 2017 13:01
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In the 15th century the inca army consisted of 200 000 soldiers, in comparison the french army consisted of 30 000 soldiers.
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Feb 11, 2017 22:05
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Are potatoes just that good at producing a food surplus or is there another explanation here? Not a standing army or a legitimately fuckhuge empire or what?
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Feb 11, 2017 22:43
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France and the Incan Empire had similar populations in 1500 (with France the larger of the two), so that’s probably not it.
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Feb 11, 2017 22:50
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VanSandman posted:Are potatoes just that good at producing a food surplus or is there another explanation here? Not a standing army or a legitimately fuckhuge empire or what? not a standing army, basically villagers with pointy sticks
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Feb 11, 2017 23:00
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So soldiers in the ancient athens sense, not in the ancient spartan sense?
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Feb 11, 2017 23:04
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Platystemon posted:BRB, organizing delivery of a pallet of Cheetos® to the White House. Only GW Bush accepted cheetos. We've moved onto the Big Mac standard now.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:09
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VanSandman posted:Are potatoes just that good at producing a food surplus or is there another explanation here? Not a standing army or a legitimately fuckhuge empire or what? Potatoes generally have a higher yield per square meter, are more resistant to the weather and are generally just easier to manage than corn. Also, you can essentially live of only potatoes and water, without anything else, not a nice way to live, but you'll survive, just. Potatoes are awesome.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:14
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umalt posted:So soldiers in the ancient athens sense, not in the ancient spartan sense? yes, and i think about as well armed
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Feb 11, 2017 23:23
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umalt posted:So soldiers in the ancient athens sense, not in the ancient spartan sense? standing armies weren't, by and large, a thing in the middle ages. you had a comparatively small warrior class of knights, but whenever you'd go off to punch the Welsh or whatever you'd need to raise the fyrd or the levies; i.e. you'd conscript thousands of men from the shires. this made long-term campaigns a bitch because it further shrank the campaigning season, as those guys would need to get home to reap the barley or whatever and if your war started cutting into harvest season the odds were good a lot of them would just gently caress off in the middle of the night
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Feb 11, 2017 23:33
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RagnarokZ posted:Potatoes generally have a higher yield per square meter, are more resistant to the weather and are generally just easier to manage than corn. One problem: corn is also a New World crop.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:35
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chernobyl kinsman posted:standing armies weren't, by and large, a thing in the middle ages. you had a comparatively small warrior class of knights, but whenever you'd go off to punch the Welsh or whatever you'd need to raise the fyrd or the levies; i.e. you'd conscript thousands of men from the shires. this made long-term campaigns a bitch because it further shrank the campaigning season, as those guys would need to get home to reap the barley or whatever and if your war started cutting into harvest season the odds were good a lot of them would just gently caress off in the middle of the night medieval conscripts are a myth
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Feb 11, 2017 23:37
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Platystemon posted:One problem: corn is also a New World crop. no, maize is
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Feb 11, 2017 23:38
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Hogge Wild posted:no, maize is You got me. Stupid cereals.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:43
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Hogge Wild posted:medieval conscripts are a myth Please enlighten us.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:55
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Hogge Wild posted:medieval conscripts are a myth Medieval Rulers Did Nothing Wrong
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Feb 12, 2017 00:08
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RagnarokZ posted:Potatoes generally have a higher yield per square meter, are more resistant to the weather and are generally just easier to manage than corn. Potatoes and dairy, actually. Potatoes don't have everything but are pretty close. Technically potatoes and dairy doesn't have absolutely everything you need either but your body can make whatever else it needs out of what those things provide. You'll have to eat something else a bit to get molybdenum but generally potatoes can provide drat near everything you need if you eat a bunch of them. Apparently in Ireland, after the potato showed up, the average Irishman's diet was a bunch of potatoes, some milk, a bit of oatmeal, and sometimes some salted fish. They were described as "healthy and good-looking" so they must have been thriving on it. Until the famine, anyway. You can survive for quite a while with just potatoes but for long-term, normal lifespan survival you need other things but potatoes and dairy is drat near enough. So yeah potatoes are pretty drat good food, so long as you eat the skin. That's where all the micro nutrients are.
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Feb 12, 2017 01:43
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Hogge Wild posted:no, maize is Shut it up, you. It says "CORN" right here on the ear.
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Feb 12, 2017 02:29
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Potatoes and dairy, actually. Potatoes don't have everything but are pretty close. Technically potatoes and dairy doesn't have absolutely everything you need either but your body can make whatever else it needs out of what those things provide. You'll have to eat something else a bit to get molybdenum but generally potatoes can provide drat near everything you need if you eat a bunch of them. Apparently in Ireland, after the potato showed up, the average Irishman's diet was a bunch of potatoes, some milk, a bit of oatmeal, and sometimes some salted fish. They were described as "healthy and good-looking" so they must have been thriving on it. Until the famine, anyway. You can survive for quite a while with just potatoes but for long-term, normal lifespan survival you need other things but potatoes and dairy is drat near enough. I was ready to make a "what about scurvy?!?!?!?!?!" post until I read up and found out that potatoes actually have a good amount of vitamin C in them. I had no idea.
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Feb 12, 2017 02:39
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ToxicSlurpee posted:So yeah potatoes are pretty drat good food, so long as you eat the skin. That's where all the micro nutrients are. So my potato and goat farm is a better idea than I thought it was.
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Feb 12, 2017 02:49
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Cumslut1895 posted:Medieval Rulers Did Nothing Wrong Ius primæ noctis: the one weird trick peasants HATE. and there’s no historical evidence for in any time or place.
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Feb 12, 2017 03:00
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