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Rinkles posted:Where's this swamp from? I found it for you. http://magiccards.info/euro/en/10.html http://shop.tcgplayer.com/magic/european-lands/swamp-lake-district-national-park?partner=mtgtcg
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Rinkles posted:Where's this swamp from? Found it E: drat
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Feb 11, 2017 18:01
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Pretty, thanks.
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Feb 11, 2017 18:02
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Portal second age swamps all day folks.
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Feb 11, 2017 18:05
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Tubgoat posted:Does it seem to anyone else like WotC is deliberately trying to give players worse value for their money year to year, each year, as a function of secondary market value? It's not like a foil textless Cryptic Command and an FNM that-bad-blue-draw-card-whose-name-I-can't-remember cost different amounts to print. It seems to me that WotC is just letting SCG, TCG, CFB, et al make all their money for them, when properly supporting/rewarding players for frequently spending money on tournaments would make WotC more money without actually eating into SCG's profits. When Serum Visions and Path to Exile were the FNM promo the LGS I went to at the time had a significantly higher FNM attendance, with people that never played standard showing up to play. People were building decks and spending money buying singles at the LGS to improve / optimize their deck. If the promo is playable outside of standard some people will pick up standard (at least temporarily) to try and win it. The usuals will still show up and casuals will want to put it in their lovely home brew, but won't be able to and will trade the promo to someone else for some standard cards --- everyone wins except the mtgfinance gurus that have a hundred copies of the same overpriced common/uncommon Instead we get call the bloodline and noose constrictor. At least some of the upcoming promos are played in standard but still.
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Feb 11, 2017 18:16
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Rinkles posted:Where's this swamp from? MTGO, clearly.
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Feb 11, 2017 18:24
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PJOmega posted:drat shame there haven't been any standard sets where a Tarmogoyf reprint would make sense. You'd need some kind of graveyard matters set. Or a set where monsters roamed the countryside. Really they'd have to have a whole block where card types in graveyard mattering was a major mechanic, and you'd have to be absolutely delirious to think they'd do that!
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Feb 11, 2017 18:44
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mandatory lesbian posted:that was Stoddard actually, who said that. and i don't really think a one mana elf would make this format better tbh Look at this nerd knowing the real life lore  But ya I'm not necessarily saying those cards exactly would matter all that much, just that they consciously made some pretty big changes in what they consider normal while at the same time reducing, instead of beefing up, things like good promos and cool random prizes until recently with Masterpieces.
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Feb 11, 2017 19:20
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What the?! Mono black vampires at 3-0 crushing mardu vehicles on coverage at GP Pitt 
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Feb 11, 2017 19:27
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Dehtraen posted:What the?! Mono black vampires at 3-0 crushing mardu vehicles on coverage at GP Pitt This is great
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Feb 11, 2017 19:33
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Aw man, he got crushed g2 and g3 - the dream is dead
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Feb 11, 2017 19:52
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Death Bot posted:It's pretty interesting considering that a few years back Maro admitted that they were trying out a few new things, like removing bolt, 4 mana wrath, and 1 mana unconditional mana dorks. The idea that they moved away from some things like this that are pretty core parts of how the game has worked forever while slowly retracting the withering olive branch they already had in place is pretty mind blowing Oh yeah I forgot about that, heh. I wonder how many people are glad that they're gone.
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Feb 11, 2017 20:01
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B/G constrictor has quite a grip on the format.
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Feb 11, 2017 20:03
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Cheon and Sutcliffe actually make a pretty good commentary pair imo
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Feb 11, 2017 20:28
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mcmagic posted:Yeah but you could have made it cheaper for yourself to play the game... Right, but this is just a rationalization. It's never going to get cheaper for any of us. Search your feelings, you know it to be true. Lottery of Babylon posted:I don't play anymore because I can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars on a new deck every six months, nor to spend a thousand dollars on a non-rotating deck up front. If the game were cheaper, wizards would be making a nonzero amount of money from me; instead, they are making $0 from me. Secondary market retailers are the places where you play competitive Magic. They're not going to gently caress them over for no reason.
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Feb 11, 2017 20:31
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Dehtraen posted:What the?! Mono black vampires at 3-0 crushing mardu vehicles on coverage at GP Pitt it looks like standard is settling down a bit into a ddcent format again.
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Angry Grimace posted:Secondary market retailers are the places where you play competitive Magic. They're not going to gently caress them over for no reason. I mean I'd love to have a reason to invest in and play Magic via my FLGS or other secondary market retailer, but instead it feels futile and out of my budget, so I increasingly don't do that Are enough other people still doing it that they don't see a net loss? I guess so, but they're still leaving my money on the table
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Feb 11, 2017 20:37
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Hellsau posted:Necropotence would be bad in this standard. Honestly, not sure how broken it would be in modern. It is classically one of the most powerful cards in Magic, but without Dark Ritual and other fast mana (I can't think of any ways to make fast black mana in modern) it might be too slow. It doesnt fit into any of the established archetypes in Modern so it would have to go into some new unseen shell. It would enable a pretty sick mono black control deck with Nythkos. But Modern is pretty fast. And tapping out turn 3 to put a Necropotence in play is gonna make the more aggressive decks in the format smile. I can't see Affinity, Burn or Infect really caring. It does let you restock if you can use your removal suite to deal with the aggro decks threats in earlier turns, but it has very real cost with the life payments, and you don't get the cards till the end of your turn, and a deck like Burn can punish that hard. Further almost every deck in modern runs some kind of SB answer to cards like Necropotence already. Also if you are in on a removal suite you will be soft against combo decks. It seems like one of those classic decks in modern that wins if it can stabilize mid game, and those have traditionally not been where you want to be in Modern. Abzan/Junk/Jund have answers to it, but it does let a black focused deck to compete with them value wise. Maybe Ad Naesuem or another combo deck cares cause it means you will have a good stream of hand disruption before they can go off? I think it would for sure enable a powerful new deck archetype, but I don't think it would necessarily have the dominance Eldrazi did. I might be very wrong though. anglachel fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Feb 11, 2017 |
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Feb 11, 2017 21:04
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What a tight game from Fevered Emerge
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Feb 11, 2017 21:18
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anglachel posted:Honestly, not sure how broken it would be in modern. It is classically one of the most powerful cards in Magic, but without Dark Ritual and other fast mana (I can't think of any ways to make fast black mana in modern) it might be too slow. It doesnt fit into any of the established archetypes in Modern so it would have to go into some new unseen shell. Necro Goryo's Vengeance would be hilarious - use Nourishing Shoal to activate for a ridiculous number of cards, discard your reanimation targets to hand size, and go off during your cleanup step in response to the exile triggers.
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e: nm i b dumb
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Anil Dasharez0ne posted:Necro Goryo's Vengeance would be hilarious - use Nourishing Shoal to activate for a ridiculous number of cards, discard your reanimation targets to hand size, and go off during your cleanup step in response to the exile triggers. So yet another combo deck in Modern that can win on turn 4 if nobody has disruption for it?
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Feb 11, 2017 23:22
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Never really thought before about the fact that Necro's exile clause is a trigger and not a replacement, but there you go
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Feb 11, 2017 23:28
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Yeah forget Necro in Modern - let's talk about Bargain in Legacy.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:28
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anglachel posted:So yet another combo deck in Modern that can win on turn 4 if nobody has disruption for it? The difference is that if you fizzle you just drew a billion cards and can try again next turn. Though I'm not sure how effective goryo's vengeance on your own end step is.
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Feb 11, 2017 23:31
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Jabor posted:The difference is that if you fizzle you just drew a billion cards and can try again next turn. I mean you get to keep it for the duration of their turn if you cast it on your end step. So you can do the Borbyogomos trick. But I mean it would have to be a green/black deck (have to have green creatures for the nourishing shoal to go off) that can reliably make 3 black mana by at least turn 4. I mean it would work maybe, but it sounds like yet another all in combo deck that falls apart if you have any kind of disruption for what they are doing whatsoever. And as a side benefit your anti dredge tech works on this hypothetical deck too.
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How'd everyone do at gameday? Took the mat home piloting RB Zombies where my deck just durdled hard against the brews and did silly stuff like untapping turn three with 9 power on board versus the tier one decks. Fun times.
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Dehtraen posted:How'd everyone do at gameday? Took the mat home piloting RB Zombies where my deck just durdled hard against the brews and did silly stuff like untapping turn three with 9 power on board versus the tier one decks. Fun times. Forgot it was this weekend. Don't have a standard deck anyway. Oh well maybe I'll care more when I can cast crocodile headed men.
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Feb 12, 2017 04:34
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Count Bleck posted:Oh well maybe I'll care more when I can cast crocodile headed men. They better be good, and hopefully smash to smithereens will be back too.
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Feb 12, 2017 05:09
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Dehtraen posted:How'd everyone do at gameday? Took the mat home piloting RB Zombies where my deck just durdled hard against the brews and did silly stuff like untapping turn three with 9 power on board versus the tier one decks. Fun times. 1-2 with a bad G2 loss because I screwed up my sequencing. I was playing Paradoxical Outcome/Aetherflux.
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Dehtraen posted:How'd everyone do at gameday? Took the mat home piloting RB Zombies where my deck just durdled hard against the brews and did silly stuff like untapping turn three with 9 power on board versus the tier one decks. Fun times. I went 2-1 in the draft and in my prize packs pulled a Yahenni, Undying Partisan and the new white mythic that resets your life total when you die, so p good 
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I didn't go, though I had put together a UR emerge list that looked surprisingly similar to this one. Something about squeezing into a crowded game shop where the AC struggles to keep up under the best of circumstances, but on a day where it's 40+ degrees outside, just didn't seem that appealing to me.
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Dehtraen posted:They better be good, and hopefully smash to smithereens will be back too. I get not printing easy answers that nullify a set's gimmick in the set itself. For example, reasonably costed instant speed creature or artifact destruction at common or uncommon would make vehicles feel really bad in draft due to temporarily 241ing. That said, they should be figuring the set gimmicks out way earlier and putting answers in the previous block.
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Dehtraen posted:How'd everyone do at gameday? Took the mat home piloting RB Zombies where my deck just durdled hard against the brews and did silly stuff like untapping turn three with 9 power on board versus the tier one decks. Fun times. I finally won a gameday for the first time since FRF with GW tokens. Sram's Expertise in to Nissa is pretty good.
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PJOmega posted:That said, they should be figuring the set gimmicks out way earlier and putting answers in the previous block. Entropic posted:I finally won a gameday for the first time since FRF with GW tokens.
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Dehtraen posted:How'd everyone do at gameday? I won mine playing BG constrictor, with a very similar build to the one that won the Columbus open. I just had a slightly different sideboard and I ran sylvan advocate instead of grim flayer. I beat indomitable creativity into eldrazi titans.dek, UR control, and metalwork colossus, but I dropped a match to a new guy on a surprisingly good mono-green energy deck who ended up coming in 3rd. Top 4 was UR control again and then the mirror in the finals. The opponent's variant of the deck was pretty weird; he ran catacomb sifter instead of Rishkar, and he ran 3-mana Nissa and Liliana to enable heart of kiran.
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And GP day 2:  And the $50 secret box of fun from Moose Loot:  My cube is so close to being done.
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Feb 12, 2017 07:31
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myDad posted:Wizards should print more cards that Modern players want Wizards is trying to pull as much support from Modern as they can. I guess they've had some kind of meeting and figure that they can make a spike in sales if they can just get those darn Eternal Format players (we can count modern in this i guess) to play Standard instead!
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anglachel posted:Wizards is trying to pull as much support from Modern as they can. That's not happening.
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