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Lurdiak posted:I am a big fan of how strong the continuity for the mainline Conan comic was. Any time anything like an elephant would show up, Conan would remember the disturbing events of Tower of the Elephant. It really drove home the power of that story and how it played a part in shaping Conan's worldview. Where is a good place to start?
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I remember reading the Dark Horse? Adaptations of Conan and them being pretty drat good.
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Feb 12, 2017 02:37
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Busiek wrote a bunch and I haven't gotten to them yet, but Busiek is always good.
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Jerusalem posted:The Tower of the Elephant is such a cool loving story and got me hooked immediately.
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Dark Horse did King Conan, which adapts The Hour of the Dragon and is great. Actually, almost the whole Dark Horse Conan series is great.flosofl posted:It has to have been more than 30 years since I read that. If I'm remembering right this is during the Conan the Master Thief times and he's trying to steal a fabled gem(?) from a sorcerer. Such a great story. "Conan is trying to steal a huge gem" is usually a good bet.
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bobkatt013 posted:Where is a good place to start? The original Marvel Savage Sword started off by adapting every bit of Howard's Conan they could lay their hands on, and over time ended up with original stories, as well as re-telling some of the more popular ones from earlier issues, not to mention adding other characters like Kull and Red Sonja. The Dark Horse run (Busiek & others) re-adapts Howard again, but adds a lot of other plot and is more of an ongoing coherent story instead of random tales from a variety of times. I'd say do both, but 
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Is there an easy way to get at the Marvel Conan comics? Like, is it on their unlimited service or comixology?
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Unlucky7 posted:Is there an easy way to get at the Marvel Conan comics? Like, is it on their unlimited service or comixology? Marvel doesn't have the rights to them anymore so no. I think Dark Horse does reprint trades. There's a ton of them though, like over 30. And that's just the main series.
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Conan the Barbarian is best read from the start, while Savage Sword's more self-contained mag nature means you can jump in anywhere more easily. Savage Sword retells some Conan the Barbarian stories, with cleaner art (due to being B&W in an era where color printing was pretty sketchy) and more guts and boobs, as well as tales not covered in the regular comic. The mag also features stories starring Solomon Kane*, Red Sonja, Kull the Conqueror, and random-rear end sword and sorcery nobodies. There's also articles, poems by Howard, and other miscellaneous content to justify calling it a "magazine" (and thus not subject to the comics code). A fair amount of the stories told in both publications are either original stories or adaptations of material that had little to do with Conan, but unless you're some kind of scholar of Robert E. Howard's work, you'll never really know, since Roy Thomas adapts it all seamlessly. Both titles takes a pretty big dip in quality once Michael Fleisher replaces Roy Thomas as writer, but it's not like he's complete garbage. He's just not nearly as good at sincere purple prose and tends towards the obnoxiously punny. Conan the Barbarian eventually becomes King Conan once Conan finally gets crowned. If you're a completionist, the publications are probably best read in parallel, since that gives you both the mature and often better-drawn side of things as well as the stronger continuity and character arc. One publication informs the other. One thing worth noting is that Savage Sword tends towards rape and rapey situations a lot more than Conan The Barbarian. It's also got a lot of embarrassing pinups and "quirky" short stories about Red Sonja, and is where her terrible revised origin was originally published. Oh, and while Roy Thomas probably deserves some kind of award for cleaning up most of the racism from the original material so well, some of it still occasionally comes up and man, is it ugly. There's this one story about Solomon Kane* fighting African vampires and, ugh. *I keep wanting to call him Garrison Cade Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 07:54 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Lurdiak posted:There's this one story about Solomon Kane* fighting African vampires and, ugh. Isn't that the one where he cries out in fury cuz he couldn't save the African village they attacked, though? Lovecraft was super racist for his day, but Howard was just an average racist of his day, which is technically an improvement! I actually like Solomon Kane even better than I do Conan. He's basically a sword & sorcery superhero. There's one story where he spent IIRC years tracking down one rear end in a top hat who killed a girl.
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What about the claw guy? Wasn't he called Klaw, or the crimson claw or some poo poo? Being a scrawny rear end kid, I used to hate muscle guys. I even lumped in Thor as "Conan with a hammer." Which would actually be really rad. Kids!
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WickedHate posted:Isn't that the one where he cries out in fury cuz he couldn't save the African village they attacked, though? No, that's a different story, and that story completely rules. Open Marriage Night posted:What about the claw guy? Wasn't he called Klaw, or the crimson claw or some poo poo? Being a scrawny rear end kid, I used to hate muscle guys. I even lumped in Thor as "Conan with a hammer." Which would actually be really rad. Kids! You're thinking of Claw the Unconquered, an original DC creation that was very obviously intended to compete with Marvel's Conan books.  Can't say I know much about him, I read maybe 2 issues in my life. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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Feb 13, 2017 00:20
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My OC Clawnan the barbarian, please do not copy.
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Synthbuttrange posted:My OC Clawnan the barbarian, please do not copy. The comic book industry used to be a lot more shameless.
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Synthbuttrange posted:My OC Clawnan the barbarian, please do not copy. Even Bethesda knew to give their fake joke Conan ripoff different colored hair.  
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Open Marriage Night posted:What about the claw guy? Wasn't he called Klaw, or the crimson claw or some poo poo? Being a scrawny rear end kid, I used to hate muscle guys. I even lumped in Thor as "Conan with a hammer." Which would actually be really rad. Kids! It's not his primary weapon, but the main character of Wolfskin carries a war mallet. It's pretty brutal when he uses it, actually that whole series is competing in some sort of violence Olympics.  Wolfskin Hundredth Dream #1
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Feb 13, 2017 05:13
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Man, I can't follow that page at all.
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Feb 13, 2017 05:51
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Their activities are so poorly-conveyed.
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Feb 13, 2017 05:53
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Mustache is so bad at dabbing he knocks himself over, then the leader of those aggressive trick or treaters holds a sack to his ear to hear the ocean, only to have the sack explosively transform into a mallet. Seems pretty easy to read to me guys. 
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Since this seems to be a page for Badass Barbarians, I'll wave the flag for my favourites, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser.  As written by the incomparable Fritz Leiber, and published from the late 40s thru to the mid 60s, they were a couple of swaggering rogues who fought, looted and boozed their way around the well-realized fantasy world of Nerewhon. Their best quality - compared to solitary stoics like Conan - was their unbreakable friendship, or their constant bickering rivalry. The original stories were an inspiration for later authors, especially contemporary nerd favourites Terry Pratchett and George RR Martin. They're a must-read for any serious fan of fantasy adventure fiction. Comic adaptations have been a mixed bag; they first showed up in Wonder Woman, as written by Chip Delaney (and featuring Catwoman for whatever reason) then got their own book, Sword of Sorcery. Later, Howard Chaykin and Mike Mignola adapted the same few stories. Leiber's slightly purple prose and snappy dialogue doesn't translate too well to panel pages, but the early Mignola art is still nice, and the series is worth a look if you see it floating around. Badass exploits depicted include Fafrhd and Mouser fighting a living tower, malicious interdimensional shopkeepers, a giant squid, and each other about six times.   
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Mousepractice posted:Since this seems to be a page for Badass Barbarians, I'll wave the flag for my favourites, Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser. I always wanted to read those stories, but never got around to it. 
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I only ever read one Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser when I was quite young (I think it was in an anthology of some sort) and I remember really enjoying it. I must have been quite young though because I remember thinking for some reason that GM was literally a mouse and it was some kind of Secret of NIMH style story, except I couldn't figure out what animal Fafhrd was supposed to be 
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The Bleak Shore is still one of my favorite short stories.quote:Fafhrd might have laughed, but did not. The Mouser had a witty rejoinder on the tip of his tongue, but instead he heard himself saying: "In what words might death call?"
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Fafhrd and Gray Mouser was sending up sword & sorcery clichés even in the in 1940s. There's one where they discover they've been cursed by an evil wizard and Fafhrd just rolls his eyes and says "Again?" Rogues is basically Fafhrd and Gray Mouser with a female Mouser:    
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Jerusalem posted:I only ever read one Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser when I was quite young (I think it was in an anthology of some sort) and I remember really enjoying it. There was at least one story where Mouser had to magically shrink down to rat size to infiltrate a hidden rat empire beneath the city, so that may have been a pretty honest mistake. I think there was even an affair with a beautiful rat princess involved!
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So uh, we're all just going to ignore the third rogue in those pages then? Okay.
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Choco1980 posted:So uh, we're all just going to ignore the third rogue in those pages then? Okay. Just looks like a normal rouge in a business suit to me.
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Sesquiculus posted:The Bleak Shore is still one of my favorite short stories. Goddamn that's some good writing.
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"Freddy" and "Mouse" show up in Fables (first issue of the Dark Ages storyline, just after the big fight vs. the Adversary). It does not end well.  (click for large) "Yeah, I ride a mammoth, gotta problem with it?"
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Retro Futurist posted:Just looks like a normal rouge in a business suit to me. Well yeah, I was just pointing out that we were talking about a pair of rogues when they were obviously a trio. Also in the game Enter the Gungeon, a roguelite that recently got a major update, there's a pair of NPCs you can unlock that send you on hunting missions to kill specific enemies for rewards. The game is filled to the brim with guns and gun puns. The pair with suspiciously familiar designs of a big red viking and a small guy in a gray hood? Frifle and the Gray Mauser.
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Choco1980 posted:So uh, we're all just going to ignore the third rogue in those pages then? Okay. They're trying to lift a curse that causes a chicken to follow them around.
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Action Jacktion posted:They're trying to lift a curse that causes a chicken to follow them around. Yeah, l'll read that. 
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Action Jacktion posted:They're trying to lift a curse that causes a chicken to follow them around. I can think of an easier way to break that curse AND get a free meal.
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Avulsion posted:I can think of an easier way to break that curse AND get a free meal. Are you sure you want to risk having the remains follow you around forever?
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Keeshhound posted:Are you sure you want to risk having the remains follow you around forever? Nobody likes a poultreygeist.
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Feb 16, 2017 21:35
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Choco1980 posted:Nobody likes a poultreygeist. Boo this man
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Feb 16, 2017 21:58
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Choco1980 posted:Nobody likes a poultreygeist. Rude!
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Choco1980 posted:Nobody likes a poultreygeist. It's a better fate than what I was thinking of.
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THat's no chicken! That is EVIL INCARNATE!
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Is it a curse that makes one specific chicken follow them around, or does it bring along a new chicken if the current one gets killed? Because I'm thinking about restaurant opportunities here.
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