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Shrapnig posted:I was ready to make a "what about scurvy?!?!?!?!?!" post until I read up and found out that potatoes actually have a good amount of vitamin C in them. I had no idea. Most things you eat have vitamin C. Humans are weird in that we're one of the few things on earth that can't make it. The best sources are generally fresh plants. Certain fruits are good cures for scurvy because they have a gently caress load of it. Under normal circumstances, unless your diet is atrocious, it's pretty hard to get scurvy.
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We lucked out in that guinea pigs are also unable to synthesize ascorbic acid. Were that not the case, the cure to scurvy could have evaded us a while longer. e: Scott and Scurvy Platystemon has a new favorite as of 03:30 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 03:24
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Platystemon posted:Ius primæ noctis: the one weird trick peasants HATE. I think you'll find that no matter where you went in medieval Europe, it was always happening one town over. 
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Feb 12, 2017 03:32
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Boardroom Jimmy posted:The Romans believed that eagles and sea-calves were never struck by lightning so they would bury the corpses of these animals in buildings in the hope that it would prevent them from being struck by lightning. The Catholic church initially opposed lighting rods because they were seen as promoting superstition. This ended after lightning struck a Italian church being used to store around 100 tons of gunpowder, which killed 400-3,000 people and leveled a good portion of the town. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brescia_explosion ToxicSlurpee posted:Potatoes and dairy, actually. Potatoes don't have everything but are pretty close. Technically potatoes and dairy doesn't have absolutely everything you need either but your body can make whatever else it needs out of what those things provide. You'll have to eat something else a bit to get molybdenum but generally potatoes can provide drat near everything you need if you eat a bunch of them. Apparently in Ireland, after the potato showed up, the average Irishman's diet was a bunch of potatoes, some milk, a bit of oatmeal, and sometimes some salted fish. They were described as "healthy and good-looking" so they must have been thriving on it. Until the famine, anyway. You can survive for quite a while with just potatoes but for long-term, normal lifespan survival you need other things but potatoes and dairy is drat near enough. For anybody who wants to learn more, I highly recommend reading "The history and social influence of the potato." It's starts off a bit dry for the first few chapters but the rest is really good.
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Atticus_1354 posted:Please enlighten us. re: conscription I can only speak for Denmark, but in the 15-16-1700s, our army was almost 100% mercenary. We literally had like recruitment stations various places in Germany so young lads could sign up & get shipped off to do war for Denmark. Often, the mercenaries were as much a problem as the enemy soldiers. A couple of times they raped & pillaged their way through Jutland because they didn't feel they were paid fairly. But we also had the "National Soldiers", who were Danish-born sons that were basically drafted. They were very much a minority, our army language was German still. In I think 1789 the king said "maybe the soldiers will fight better and not poo poo so hard on everything if they are from this same country?" So since then, we've had a draft. Conscientuous objection was harshly punished until I wanna say the 1930s. Literally some people cut off a thumb or a bunch of toes to avoid service. My dad was "called in" years before I was born. he objected & spent a year working at a local prison, bringing coffee & stuff like that. he hated it at the time, he told me, but he realized that he wanted to work with people. i was called in 15 years or so ago. as an objector youre not allowed to do a "real" job. youre supposed to like sweep the floor or make copies. i got to do all kinds of poo poo and i hated it. i wanted to just be a floor sweeper and not talk to people That's the story of the Danish military. Carthag Tuek has a new favorite as of 04:33 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 04:30
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Chichevache posted:I think you'll find that no matter where you went in medieval Europe, it was always happening one town over. Or better yet, Primae Noctis was the well-known custom of whatever country yours happened to be enemies with at the time.
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Sucrose posted:Or better yet, Primae Noctis was the well-known custom of whatever country yours happened to be enemies with at the time. also im pretty it hasn't been mentioned yet, but apparently primæ noctis was made up to diss other countries
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The eponymous character in the Epic of Gilgamesh practices ius primæ noctis, and that’s literally the oldest written story there is. It’s been a bogeyman for longer than the bogeyman. quote:A particular man had been invited to a wedding. To Uruk he ventured, to the wedding he would go. Enkidu was making love to Shamhat when he lifted up his eyes and saw the man. He spoke to the harlot: “O, Shamhat, lure on the man. Why has he come to me? Let me learn his reason.” Platystemon has a new favorite as of 06:11 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Sucrose posted:Or better yet, Primae Noctis was the well-known custom of whatever country yours happened to be enemies with at the time. I read this as implying one country's soldiers practice it on the civilians of the enemy country, which is...decidedly less comical.
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Platystemon posted:The eponymous character in the Epic of Gilgamesh practices ius primæ noctis, and that’s literally the oldest written story there is. Man don't bring facts into this pages long quote chain about nights the first!
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For real though: - There is no evidence of any actual primæ noctis in any sources. Literally in this thread someone documented how it's all "that other country does it". It's pretty much just propaganda. - But also, yes, soldiers in a foreign country rape everyone. It is what they do.
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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3749916&pagenumber=97&perpage=40#post468328736
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My first and only knowledge of primæ noctis came from that one documentary in the 90s, Braveheart.
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another way to disprove it is just by thinking about it in the middle ages you literally got whipped / paid a huge fine / were imprisoned / or even killed for extramarital sex. there exist thousands of records from hundreds of years in dozens of countries about it. you could probably stack all that to the moon and back. so if there were some weird exceptions for extra-marital sex, there would definitely be at list a little bit of writing about it. absence of evidence yall.
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Powaqoatse posted:also im pretty it hasn't been mentioned yet, but apparently primæ noctis was made up to diss other countries In 18th century France, it was a way to criticise the excessive power of the nobility or monarchy without getting in trouble. Like in this play: it's set in Spain to evade censorship.
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Kassad posted:In 18th century France, it was a way to criticise the excessive power of the nobility or monarchy without getting in trouble. Like in this play: it's set in Spain to evade censorship. gently caress you so much
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Feb 12, 2017 10:00
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How many plays did Shakespeare write about contemporary England? The correct answer is “zero”.
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Zero One posted:Without potatoes Matt Damon would have died on Mars. he also had a big ol' bottle of multivitamins
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also ive read* somewhere that nobles could gently caress women if they got married * i havent actually read this** ** ive seen a movie where its mentioned*** *** that probably makes it true? idk???
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Cumslut1895 posted:he also had a big ol' bottle of multivitamins now if he was super fat, and had the vitamins still, then we're talking. ive read that he could survive for weeks in a vacuum just by being fat & eating vitamins
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Feb 12, 2017 10:05
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Powaqoatse posted:Often, the mercenaries were as much a problem as the enemy soldiers. A couple of times they raped & pillaged their way through Jutland because they didn't feel they were paid fairly. mercenaries.txt
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Feb 12, 2017 10:06
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Cumslut1895 posted:he also had a big ol' bottle of multivitamins The vicodin he seasoned the potatoes with was crucial to his survival.
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Powaqoatse posted:gently caress you so much Not on the first night.  But seriously, I'm sorry? I didn't mean to say ius primae noctis is real, just that it could be used to diss the upper class as well as other countries.
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Kassad posted:Not on the first night. Yea sorry that was harsh. It's just been mentioned in the thread several times :P
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Powaqoatse posted:Yea sorry that was harsh. It's just been mentioned in the thread several times :P So there was this bear called Wojtek...
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Corrode posted:So there was this bear called Wojtek... That's the Finnish sniper bear that killed half of nazi Russia with a crossbow right?
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Feb 12, 2017 10:41
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Powaqoatse posted:That's the Finnish sniper bear that killed half of nazi Russia with a crossbow right? Don't forget the sword and bagpipes he carried at all times.
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Powaqoatse posted:That's the Finnish sniper bear that killed half of nazi Russia with a crossbow right? He also hosed Catherine the Great to death after she rode him through town naked to warn about the British
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Potatoes and dairy, actually. Potatoes don't have everything but are pretty close. Technically potatoes and dairy doesn't have absolutely everything you need either but your body can make whatever else it needs out of what those things provide. You'll have to eat something else a bit to get molybdenum but generally potatoes can provide drat near everything you need if you eat a bunch of them. Apparently in Ireland, after the potato showed up, the average Irishman's diet was a bunch of potatoes, some milk, a bit of oatmeal, and sometimes some salted fish. They were described as "healthy and good-looking" so they must have been thriving on it. Until the famine, anyway. You can survive for quite a while with just potatoes but for long-term, normal lifespan survival you need other things but potatoes and dairy is drat near enough. Frederick the Great is also known as Der Kartoffelkönig (the potato king) because he brought the potato to Prussia. To this day people still put potatoes on his grave.
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During the Danish 1980s recession, the right wing govt implemented a whole complex of laws that are called kartoffelkuren ~ "the potato diet", as in we all better tighten the belt and eat more potatos cause nobody can afford meat irl. At that time, my parents paid like two digits interest on their mortgage. I remember it as being more than 15% but that sounds completely insane and unsustainable. Now mortgages are what, 3% ish?
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Powaqoatse posted:now if he was super fat, and had the vitamins still, then we're talking. ive read that he could survive for weeks in a vacuum just by being fat & eating vitamins you can survive over a year https://www.yahoo.com/beauty/man-didnt-eat-for-382-days-but-somehow-lived-115956502923.html http://pmj.bmj.com/content/49/569/203
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In Norway we had potato priests. People were hesitant to begin growing potatoes (partly because they din't know which part was edible) so the king ordered priests to have sermons about how great potatoes were.
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Alhazred posted:In Norway we had potato priests. People were hesitant to begin growing potatoes (partly because they din't know which part was edible) so the king ordered priests to have sermons about how great potatoes were. all kinds of stuff was done to make people eat taters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine-Augustin_Parmentier Potato publicity stunts Parmentier therefore began a series of publicity stunts for which he remains notable today, hosting dinners at which potato dishes featured prominently and guests included luminaries such as Benjamin Franklin and Antoine Lavoisier, giving bouquets of potato blossoms to the King and Queen, and surrounding his potato patch at Sablons with armed guards to suggest valuable goods — then instructing them to accept any and all bribes from civilians and withdrawing them at night so the greedy crowd could "steal" the potatoes. These 54 arpents of impoverished ground near Neuilly, west of Paris, had been allotted him by order of Louis XVI in 1787.[3]
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katoffler e kempegøj da, kvem ka itje lik toffler da? <- norwegian potato priest
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Powaqoatse posted:katoffler e kempegøj da, kvem ka itje lik toffler da? <- norwegian potato priest What's more illegible than a dane? A dane trying to speak norwegian.
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Hogge Wild posted:all kinds of stuff was done to make people eat taters: Eric Cartman’s potato patch
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Alhazred posted:What's more illegible than a dane? A dane trying to speak norwegian. lmbo that one was new to me
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Atticus_1354 posted:Please enlighten us. migration age tribes and vikings even later on had a society where all the free men were warriors, but when people settled down it was realized that it's better to have your farmers farm and pay taxes and let the professionals fight landowning freemen were supposed to own arms and armour, but they could pay tax to avoid military service these landowners and minor nobility were the pools where the mercenaries and retainers were hired from the only militias that saw wider use were the city militias, but there was no conscription going on
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that's also partially why some lands were and are still divided into herreder/hundreds. that was the amount of farms/people that could support (grain, money, etc upkeep) an armored knight with all the poo poo he needed.
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