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So zombie Klingons or a sleeping Kligons?
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Klingon Draugr. Maybe their ships are filled with annoying, mostly pointless traps.
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Feb 12, 2017 18:54
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Evek posted:So zombie Klingons or a sleeping Kligons? Very ancient sleeping Klingons, if the leaked concept art from several months ago is legitimate.
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Feb 12, 2017 18:58
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skooma512 posted:Because we have faith of the heart. Remember when that and viewscreens were what pissed us off most? Good times, good times.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:06
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Feb 12, 2017 19:12
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I think they look fine from this grainy low res picture. It's a new series, let them try something new you dumb nerds.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:13
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Subyng posted:I think they look fine from this grainy low res picture. It's a new series, let them try something new you dumb nerds. It's supposed to be in the same continuity add other things, so pointless change is dumb. Also, new things is fine but Klingons is hardly new things. I'm hoping for the these aren't Klingons angle personally.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:16
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GLOOORY TO YOU, AND YOUR HOOO- -uuhhhH?????
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Feb 12, 2017 19:17
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If they wanted people to be happy about these leaks they should have hired everybody who did Farscape.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:20
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Hey, look on the bright side, at least Voyager fans will feel better, now that their favorite series is no longer the worst one.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:20
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Phimosissy posted:It's supposed to be in the same continuity add other things, so pointless change is dumb. Continuity is an albatross.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:21
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Visual continuity has a bit more leeway in my opinion.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:24
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Continunity on the scale of "so and so said something in the 2nd episode of the first series so we have to stick to it forever" is an albatross. Changing the look of a primary species in the show for a 3rd (4th!) time is needless loving around with no real reason. I'm not really ready to raise the pitchforks yet though since we know nothing else yet.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:26
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It can be in the same continuity but still look different. No one expects the ship interior to look like a 60's TV show despite predating TOS by like a decade chronologically. Honestly, who gives a poo poo about artistic license. This is like the 5th? iteration of Klingons in the Star Trek universe, nothing is sacred or immutable in fiction.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:27
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Timby posted:Continuity is an albatross. Fine whatever, but this is Trek not some goddamn High Media. The point still stands, though, if you're going to call them Klingons and set the show on continuity, why make a dumb visual change? Pay to watch is off-putting enough to older TNG and TOS fans already. Just seems dumb af Granted, we don't really know anything yet
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Feb 12, 2017 19:27
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Subyng posted:Visual continuity has a bit more leeway in my opinion. thank you. I would much rather watch some poo poo that looks cool and futuristic rather than awkwardly recreate some retro-futurist aesthetic that looked cool in the 60's
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Feb 12, 2017 19:30
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That being said I like the Klingon Draugr idea and hope the producers go in that direct.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:41
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Maybe these are the Klingon Gods. It might be worth telling that story.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:45
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remusclaw posted:Maybe these are the Klingon Gods. It might be worth telling that story. The Klingods should be a miniseries all it's own and not involve the Federation at all.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:48
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I love that Star Wars gets slavishly adherent 1977 styled period pieces but nobody can handle a vision of the future that isn't covered in terrible bump mapping otherwise it seems I mean I'm not saying it'll all suck because of one or two photos, we have no idea who these guys are or what the rest of the show will look like but it seems a bit dubious to say "we're setting this show 5 minutes before TOS!" and then there's no real visual indication of that aside from one or two little tiny bits in the back that only nerds like us would be able to pick out.
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Feb 12, 2017 19:50
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Star Wars is in the past
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Feb 12, 2017 20:03
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MorgaineDax posted:So who posted that picture? I can't find the original post and considering how tight-lipped STD has been so far, it doesn't seem like a picture they'd release like that. It almost comes off like some extra on the set posted a picture and only had a vague idea what Trek aliens were and just called them Klingons. I found it in io9, the original pic is from one of the extras. http://io9.gizmodo.com/this-might-be-our-first-look-at-the-klingons-in-star-tr-1792262881
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Feb 12, 2017 20:08
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Delthalaz posted:Why don't we ever see the Grizzelas? They sound pretty chill. I hope the next series has a Grizella character to just hang out with and party until he's like -- oh sorry guys I'm feeling super tired. Then we don't see him again until next year except maybe once or twice by the replicator and he's cranky. Also jeez I hope someone's watching their planet when they're asleep. Wait, this just hit me. Grizzelas? Were they supposed to be a planet of bear-people? ...I love it. Scudworth posted:Even after all these years I almost laugh each and every time Pulaski called Data "dah-ta" because she hates him and doesn't give a gently caress about the toaster's feelings. Wasn't that for all of one episode? And yeah there was the Sherlock "ooooops, nobody bothered to check whether this was public domain yet!" Holmes episode, but after that I don't think there's much at all. Jesus from the way people get all boo-hoo over the dreadful way she treated our golden son you'd think she spent the whole season walking around the ship calling him "blinkyhead" and telling junior officers his orders carried no legal weight. Timby posted:If you read between the lines in The Fifty Year Mission, it's pretty clear that McFadden was absolutely miserable by the seventh season and only did the movies for a paycheck (I think she flat-out refused to talk about Insurrection because she had nothing to do). There's at least one quote from Fifty-Year Mission where she basically says "ehh it makes sense that Crusher wouldn't be jealous of him going off with Anij, because he's already been going around loving everyone else anyway." I was surprised this wasn't in Fifty-Year, but I remember a quote from her from somewhere else where she said that she was really hoping they'd do more Picard/Crusher material when she came back in third season, but that nobody was interested in going anywhere near that.
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Feb 12, 2017 20:23
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Wait, this just hit me. Grizzelas? Were they supposed to be a planet of bear-people? They actually have more in common with Earth dragonflies, racist.
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Feb 12, 2017 20:26
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Phimosissy posted:That image is the first truly upsetting thing to me about Discovery. I don't know about "upsetting" but I have had very low expectations about this from the start. And I haven't seen anything yet to raise them, apart from maybe the involvement of Nick Meyer, so this is just one more in a long line of incidental info that, to me, ranges on a continuity of "ho-hum" to "lol."
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Feb 12, 2017 20:58
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I kind of like the redesign, kind of don't. It's kind of ugly and seems to fit in with this weird alternate 70's McQuarryverse look they seem to be developing, of which I'm not sure I'm a fan. On the other hand, I've always been for more "alien" looking Klingons. I got kind of sick of seeing the TNG-era ones, and frankly since that itself was a redesign of a redesign, I don't hold it as particularly holy. Plus they said the theme of the show had something to do with cross-cultural understanding, so if that means with the Klingons I think you could get some mileage out of the fact that you have a more visceral visual barrier to overcome in terms of relating with a different culture.
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Feb 12, 2017 21:02
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In non-Discovery news, Alec Peters says he's going to publish two books, one about the making of Axanar and one about the lawsuit with CBS and Paramount. Dude just can't stop. I can't imagine the loopholes he's going to try to find to justify a book about the lawsuit. Timby fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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Feb 12, 2017 21:20
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People are freaking out about a lack of continuity... in the design of Klingons? Of all things? As if their design is sacred and inviolable? I suppose they have a point. It's an affront to Continuity that they're not dudes in brownface with pointy eyebrows. Subyng posted:I think they look fine from this grainy low res picture. It's a new series, let them try something new you dumb nerds.
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Feb 12, 2017 22:16
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Ehh, they just haven't put the wigs on yet. Wevs. (Anyway, the TMP Cornish Pastie-head Klingons were almost as different from the ST3-onwards Klingons as from the TOS Klingons, so it's no big deal. Just like RAAAR, the spaceship has a triangle in it, WORST STAR TREK EVER 0/10!)
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Feb 12, 2017 22:33
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Was there this much gnashing of teeth when the Borg got their bigger-budget designs for later TNG and Voyager?
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Feb 12, 2017 22:36
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Data Graham posted:Was there this much gnashing of teeth when the Borg got their bigger-budget designs for later TNG and Voyager? The Borg were a huge part of TNG establishing itself (despite repeated attempts by Gene and Rick Berman to avoid anything macabre), so no.
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Feb 12, 2017 22:41
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Data Graham posted:Was there this much gnashing of teeth when the Borg got their bigger-budget designs for later TNG and Voyager? There are always people complaining when poo poo changes, though you obviously have to go digging up fan letter columns in magazines back past a certain point to find it. Internet made it easier for complainers to reach more eyes and ears.
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Feb 12, 2017 22:50
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I'm perfectly fine with redesigns, so long as they're not ugly as sin John Eaves-style "X-Acto edges on everything" designs. That said, I'm partial to the theory that these are actually the ancient "sarcophagus Klingons".
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Feb 12, 2017 22:52
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What the gently caress are sarcophagus Klingons?
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Feb 12, 2017 22:59
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Some one cut up a bunch of pictures of cathedrals and glued them onto a silhouette of a Klingon ship and called it concept art for a "Klingon Sarcophagus Ship."
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Feb 12, 2017 23:01
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Cojawfee posted:Some one cut up a bunch of pictures of cathedrals and glued them onto a silhouette of a Klingon ship and called it concept art for a "Klingon Sarcophagus Ship." Warhammer then?
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Feb 12, 2017 23:07
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Baronjutter posted:Warhammer then? It looked pretty close to it. Guess its some sort of sleeper ship instead of a literal floating tomb.
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Feb 12, 2017 23:12
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remusclaw posted:There are always people complaining when poo poo changes, though you obviously have to go digging up fan letter columns in magazines back past a certain point to find it. Internet made it easier for complainers to reach more eyes and ears. The complaining in the pre-Internet age in Star Trek was worse. About the only person who gets undying hatred these days is Rick Berman.
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The guy who posted it: So everyone just... chill. Also he's been fired because he's an NDA-breaking idiot. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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