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also maybe being a rapist is kind of bad
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breaklaw posted:Inciting harassment? Link?
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breaklaw posted:The idea that anyone, a public university administrator or anyone, can just unilaterally declare ideas they don't like to be "hate speech" and "fascism" and then proceed to censor or silence these ideas through violence, or even through bureaucratic means is unamerican and unconstitutional in every way. We don't arbitrarily ignore or invalidate the rights of racists, radicals, rabble-rousers or anyone else. You should go find yourselves a country with a vangaurd party if you want to live like that. it isn't unconstitutional or unamerican at all no one owes you or anyone else a platform, not even a public university the only thing the first amendment guarantees you with regards to your ability to speak is that the government won't forbid you the right to speak on the grounds of content, and even then that has specific limitations and restrictions also lmao, did you get triggered
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The real problem with the free speech defense is that it doesn't account for the "fighting words" exception. If you engage in speech that's threatening to an individual or a group, and they react with violence then it's in their natural right to do so. There are legal limits for this, obviously. Anonymous rioters will still be prosecuted, and if somebody punched Milo they could still be charged with assault - but rhetorically it doesn't hold up at all. The Far Right thinks of free speech as a shield which liberates themselves from consequence while everyone else has to deal with the implications of their politics. But reality don't work that way. Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire Feiner v. New York quote:Focusing on the "rise up in arms and fight for their rights" part of Feiner's speech, the Court found that Feiner's First Amendment rights were not violated because his arrest came when the police thought that a riot might occur; the police attempted to suppress Feiner's message not based on its content but on the reaction of the crowd. The Court reaffirmed that a speaker cannot be arrested for the content of his speech and that the police must not be used as an instrument to silence unpopular views but must be used to silence a speaker who is trying to incite a riot. This for example, is when the court ruled the other way. A racist Catholic priest provoked a riot outside a stadium and was arrested, but the Court overturned his conviction: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminiello_v._City_of_Chicago BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 01:45 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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and that's why people should keep an eye out, don't let nazis boil the frog
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breaklaw posted:(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) you loving suck
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Wikkheiser posted:The issue is, for it to be legal, the incitement must likely lead to an "imminent" breach of peace. As in... right NOW. Not at some indeterminate future date. That's why I'm not making a strictly legalistic argument.
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SpaceGoku posted:it isn't unconstitutional or unamerican at all yeah p much this, if you think (for example) that If I want to scream the n-word over 9,000 times consecutively or explain in detail why the earth is actually flat that universities (which also have a responsibility to effectively educate) are obliged to give me a platform, you're a loving idiot if you see a substantial qualitative difference in those kinds of speech and richard spencer's diatribes about the children of the sun or milo putting individual students on blast and basically going "GET EM", you're a loving nazi it's really not that complicated but for "some reason" a lot of people have extremely huge trouble with it, I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they just don't know what alt right dudes actually say and think they're just regular whitebread conservatives but given the op gives plenty to go on to research them I doubt it
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where did this horribly stupid interpretation of free speech come from? this is like the number one shared belief amongst internet edgelords, its always articulated the same way, but i have no idea where it actually spawned from. is this like the grade school turds who would act like poo poo and then say "its a free country" but all grown up now?
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# ? Feb 12, 2017 03:31 |
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it came from the failures of the American education system, combined with people that are huge squares that need to be The Most Ideologically Correct like these are the types of people that will take pride in reading some wing nut site because they believe it empowers them with some kind of evenhandedness
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the black husserl posted:I'm just gonna keep posting this Sartre quote (from 1944!!) because he called this poo poo perfectly back then and we should all memorize this: This a million times over. We're in a dogwhistle politics environment right now, something that everyone knows. The Trump legal defense of the The entire talking point about liberal (in)tolerance for free speech revolves around the paradox of tolerance, something that was brought up and settled over 50 years ago. A free society that values, tolerates and permits freedom of expression has to be intolerant of speech and activity that undermines that value. Basically I disagree with you but I'll die for your right to be disagreeable only holds so long as that sentiment is reciprocal. El Mero Mero has issued a correction as of 04:39 on Feb 12, 2017 |
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passionate dongs posted:where did this horribly stupid interpretation of free speech come from? this is like the number one shared belief amongst internet edgelords, its always articulated the same way, but i have no idea where it actually spawned from. stupid people and teenagers who want you to think they're very intelligent and open-minded are sympathetic to any anti-authoritarian sentiment, and we now live in a civilization where the majority of authorities say things like "homosexuals are people who deserve to be treated with human dignity" and "liberal democracy is a better system than autocracy or theocracy"
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El Mero Mero posted:
This is really well put.
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As a woman with a STEM degree, I personally found this Milo article particularly cute. You know, for someone who bitches a lot about Sharia law, he sure seems to be a fan of the parts that deal with women.Milo Yiannopoulos posted:Here’s Why There Ought to Be a Cap on Women Studying Science and Maths
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 00:58 |
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https://twitter.com/TomiLahren/status/830625754882805760 https://twitter.com/pisspiggranddad/status/830867625781637121 Pener Kropoopkin has issued a correction as of 02:24 on Feb 13, 2017 |
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BedBuglet posted:As a woman with a STEM degree, I personally found this Milo article particularly cute. You know, for someone who bitches a lot about Sharia law, he sure seems to be a fan of the parts that deal with women. in the Age of Trump, I truly fear women and minorities getting lesser and lesser opportunities in STEM positions
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcXC9o9mRdg
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passionate dongs posted:where did this horribly stupid interpretation of free speech come from? this is like the number one shared belief amongst internet edgelords, its always articulated the same way, but i have no idea where it actually spawned from. It's concern trolling because the left falls all over themselves to defend principles and technicalities over purpose and intention. like when Colbert attacked the name of the Washington redskins and faced backlash over the construction of his joke and not its meaning
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:https://twitter.com/TomiLahren/status/830625754882805760 Lenin lover 69
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https://twitter.com/RIPMarkusJ/status/830872878694408194
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Punk is dead.
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Montasque posted:Punk is dead. Thank God.
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Who are these people? None of them look like they lift.
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Montasque posted:Who are these people? None of them look like they lift. Those are the chapo boys photoshopped onto Milo and Gavin and the other guy. Felix definitely lifts I believe
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lol of course the china thread hates sjws
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Montasque posted:Who are these people? None of them look like they lift. They also sleep in beds without headboards.
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Montasque posted:Punk is dead. Inshallah
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BedBuglet posted:As a woman with a STEM degree, I personally found this Milo article particularly cute. You know, for someone who bitches a lot about Sharia law, he sure seems to be a fan of the parts that deal with women. lol, milo obviously hasnt been to any higher level math classes or he wouldnt be raging about just women in them.
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Bud K ninja sword posted:lol, milo obviously hasnt been to any higher level math classes or he wouldnt be raging about just women in them. Hell, it's almost like he's a goofy nu media celebrity and not a daring rogue intellectual
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wizard on a water slide posted:Hell, it's almost like he's a goofy nu media celebrity and not a daring rogue intellectual wait are you making the suggestion that he might not have any clue what he is taking about? Thats.. preposterous!
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Bud K ninja sword posted:wait are you making the suggestion that he might not have any clue what he is taking about? Look dude it's very important the students of universities - institutions which exist principally to provide advanced educations and social networking for young/future professionals - be exposed to a range of voices, both those who have expertise and know what they're talking about, and those who don't.
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wizard on a water slide posted:Look dude it's very important the students of universities - institutions which exist principally to provide advanced educations and social networking for young/future professionals - be exposed to a range of voices, both those who have expertise and know what they're talking about, and those who don't. my poor brain, I thought places of learning cultivated opportunities for growth and education while providing a valuable social education environment I have been fooled!
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Bud K ninja sword posted:my poor brain, I thought places of learning cultivated opportunities for growth and education while providing a valuable social education environment I have been fooled! Thank you for graduating with us! This Pepsi Brand Brown University education was also brought to you in part by Uber and a monolithic pharmaceutical concern that wishes to remain anonymous. Be well and have a great adulthood! *conveyor belt moves graduates into smelting vat. some graduates ding off the side and fall into a pile marked for immediate disposal into social media, silicon valley*
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IM GONNA BE A SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER!
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pretty soon milo will only be able to perform behind a chicken wire fence for his safety too
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No amount of "decent" Education or gainful employment will ever unfuck these people's brains out of [SECRET JEW CONSPIRACY TO EXTERMINATE PROUD INDUSTRIOUS WHITE MAN]
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https://twitter.com/virgiltexas/status/831355680808398848
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I've been saying for years that we're gonna find cernovich dead in his apartment with his dick in hand and a noose around his neck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ac4LEopZXjQ&ab_channel=DerekSypniewski
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Bushiz posted:I've been saying for years that we're gonna find cernovich dead in his apartment with his dick in hand and a noose around his neck. The Gorilla Mindset
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