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BrianWilly posted:I realize I'm also guilty of goading the bargain-bin SMG -- he leaves such easy openings -- but can we stop goading the bargain-bin SMG here? Maybe you guys should stop owning yourselves
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I recognised all of batman's rogues in the batman lego movie except one. Condiment King. I thought the movie made him up. My comic book knowledge is sub par  .
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Monaghan posted:I recognised all of batman's rogues in the batman lego movie except one. Condiment King. I thought the movie made him up. It's not too late to ketchup.
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Feb 13, 2017 18:56
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Monaghan posted:I recognised all of batman's rogues in the batman lego movie except one. Condiment King. I thought the movie made him up. You should relish the opportunity to learn more.
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Feb 13, 2017 18:58
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Phylodox posted:I'm just tryin' to talk about Civil War. It's an interesting movie. It's a great movie. It's hard for me to understand how it isn't everyone's favorite superhero movie. Like Guardians is definitely funnier and maybe there's more charisma in the cast but Civil War at this point I think it's the most "comic booky" while maintaining the most quality or respectability if that makes sense.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:03
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My favorite line in a review of Civil War was that it is one of the rare big dumb comic book movies that doesn't treat the audience like they're dumb. The ending and twist were legitimately well executed and surprising.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:06
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:My favorite line in a review of Civil War was that it is one of the rare big dumb comic book movies that doesn't treat the audience like they're dumb. I love the ending because it's contingent on Zemo understanding the structure of the genre of film he's in. "Oh, in the end the heroes realize there's a greater threat they need to face, so they put aside their differences and fight the true villain together? Well, hey, guys, wanna watch a video first?"
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Feb 13, 2017 19:28
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I don't know how a thirty-year old twist from a well known comic is that impressive.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:40
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I don't know how a thirty-year old twist from a well known comic is that impressive. The hell you talking about?
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Feb 13, 2017 19:42
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Approximately 110 million more people saw the movie than ever read the comic.
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Feb 13, 2017 19:42
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What twist are we talking about?
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Feb 13, 2017 19:43
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The one in Watchmen. "Dan, I'm not a republic serial villain. Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."
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Feb 13, 2017 19:59
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drat dude are you even trying
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Feb 13, 2017 20:01
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He never tries but you keep biting none the less.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:09
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Rhyno posted:What twist are we talking about? Zemo had killed all the other Winter Soldiers in their stasis tubes because he thought they were monsters and had never planned on using them.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:10
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Wait are we talking about Watchmen now? When the gently caress did that happen?
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Rhyno posted:Wait are we talking about Watchmen now? When the gently caress did that happen? Bravest of the Lamps is trying to say that the ending of Civil War was not a twist because another comic had done a similar twist 30-years ago.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:12
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Bravest of the Lamps is trying to say that the ending of Civil War was not a twist because another comic had done a similar twist 30-years ago. I said that it's odd to find it impressive after Watchmen.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:14
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Bravest of the Lamps is trying to say that the ending of Civil War was not a twist because another comic had done a similar twist 30-years ago. Well he's a loving idiot. Also the ending of CW was fairly predictable, the Bucky having killed Stark's parents bit anyways. They telegraphed the poo poo out of it.
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Feb 13, 2017 20:15
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Rhyno posted:Well he's a loving idiot. That part was predictable and pretty much explicitly said in Winter Soldier. The parts with Zemo killing all of the other Winter Soldier test subjects instead of activating them, the voicemail being from over a year ago, and then Zemo trying to kill himself were not.
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It was pretty clear that the voicemail was old.
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It's not even that similar to Watchmen. In that, Ozymandias' big reveal was that he had already implemented his big plan. In Civil War, Zemo's big reveal was that what you thought was his plan all along was just a way of distracting and dividing the heroes long enough for him to get what he needed from the very beginning, the tape of Bucky killing Tony's parents. The whole convoluted scheme involving super soldiers was entirely a ruse. It would have been closer to Ozymandias saying, "Look, Dan, the whole murder mystery/alien squid thing? That was loving stupid. Did you really think that was my plan? Seriously? That was just to keep you guys busy while I brokered a peace between Russia and the United States. Because I knew you'd gently caress it up. Because you're gently caress ups. Anyways, enjoy world peace." That actually sounds like a pretty cool ending.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:The truth is that there is never a core to fiction or art. Art is what it is on the surface. There's never been and never will be any human heart beating beneath it. 
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Rhyno posted:It was pretty clear that the voicemail was old. It's true. Nobody uses voicemail anymore.
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Lobok posted:It's true. Nobody uses voicemail anymore. How on earth do you still have that avatar?
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Feb 13, 2017 20:59
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Rhyno posted:How on earth do you still have that avatar? Not sure I've ever chosen my own avatar on SA, actually. Hmm...
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Feb 13, 2017 21:10
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I think that whatever else you may think of Civil War, it probably has the best climax of any superhero movie. No sky laser, no broad schemes by a thoroughly underdeveloped villain, no artificially raised stakes ("Quick, Spider-Man! Stop that artificial sun!") Just raw emotion and punching. Two of my favorite things! I guess Dark Knight's climax is pretty good too but it's undercut by how crummy the fight scenes are in that movie/those Bat Suits
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OnimaruXLR posted:Just raw emotion and punching. Two of my favorite things! The final battle of Kamen Rider Kuuga is much the same way. Very intense.
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OnimaruXLR posted:No sky laser, no broad schemes by a thoroughly underdeveloped villain, no artificially raised stakes ("Quick, Spider-Man! Stop that artificial sun!") Dude. Shut up. The mini-sun is built up throughout the movie and Ock dying to help stop it is the perfect end to his arc.
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I'm still gonna say Guardians of the Galaxy had my favourite climactic showdown. Defeating the villain by finally accepting the death of your mother and moving on is pretty awesome.
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OnimaruXLR posted:I think that whatever else you may think of Civil War, it probably has the best climax of any superhero movie. People don't like the Nolan batsuits? 
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I mean the first one restricted movement too much so I guess Christian Bale wasn't a fan.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:People don't like the Nolan batsuits? I thought everything about Batman was just about the least interesting/compelling thing about the Nolan films.
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Film quality aside, I always thought the TDK/R batsuit was generally accepted to be the best live-action version of the suit.
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Let me show you a little film called Batman: Dead End.
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Timeless Appeal posted:Let me show you a little film called Batman: Dead End. I know it's pretty divisive, but that's my favourite live action Batman costume.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Film quality aside, I always thought the TDK/R batsuit was generally accepted to be the best live-action version of the suit. It's certainly the most practical one yet. I was slightly bothered by the lack of a proper cowl, though. I mean yes, that's what made it possible for Batman to finally turn his goddamn head, but it just looks slightly off.
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The Nolan batsuits are Goddamn terrible and without the mask are basically unidentifiable as Batman. Even then the mask just looks like a motorcycle helmet. The TDK/Rises suits just look like fuckin Halo armor or something. Theyre so busy and overstuffed with 'tactical realism'. Finding the Bat logo on that is like searching for that one particular black Lego piece you need in a pile of nearly identical black Lego pieces.
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purple death ray posted:The Nolan batsuits are Goddamn terrible and without the mask are basically unidentifiable as Batman.
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For all of Batman v Superman's sins, the batsuit was pretty much perfect.
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