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MiddleOne posted:It's 2017, it exists as assets held by holding companies in these countries. All of that poo poo can be seized or reclaimed through fines. The issue of tax heavens is not a practical one, it's political. Except that the funds themselves are not actually held in the Cayman Islands, only the legal entity documentation - the funds are in countries that still have bank secrecy laws (after the UBS leak led to Switzerland having to give that up).
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Horseshoe theory posted:Except that the funds themselves are not actually held in the Cayman Islands, only the legal entity documentation - the funds are in countries that still have bank secrecy laws (after the UBS leak led to Switzerland having to give that up). I'm pretty sure a Marine Expeditionary Force landing on your shores would be one way of getting a country to give up their bank secrecy laws I mean i'm sure there are others too
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Feb 14, 2017 11:49
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Doggles posted:Do "Youtube stars" count as unicorns? Google Cancels PewDiePie's Upcoming Series, Removes Him from Preferred Ad System How loving stupid do you have to be to throw that gravy train into a ditch? You literally sit around, play games, and make funny sounds.
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Feb 14, 2017 16:56
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FilthyImp posted:Goddamn, that was fast: What people often forget is that PewDiePie is the son of one of the richest men in Sweden, and his mother was also a rather wealthy CEO in her own right. So basically all of his career is for funsies, because if he completely bombs out of it all he's already got millions in the bank, before you count any of the money he earned on Youtube.
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Feb 14, 2017 17:09
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More like Poopiedie, right fellas?
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Doggles posted:Do "Youtube stars" count as unicorns? Kind of ironic considering, you know, Disney.
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Feb 14, 2017 17:15
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Kind of the opposite of ironic, though. Kind of like getting a job promoting Samsung phones and then posting arsonist videos.
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pangstrom posted:Kind of the opposite of ironic, though. Kind of like getting a job promoting Samsung phones and then posting arsonist videos. The ironic part is that a guy who described getting killed repeatedly in a game as being raped in one of his videos got a deal with Disney I think (unless that didn't happen but I could have sworn it did) I mean really kudos for booting him but uhhhhhhhhh
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Feb 14, 2017 17:59
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FilthyImp posted:Goddamn, that was fast:
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Feb 14, 2017 18:25
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FlamingLiberal posted:He's always had that problem to some degree though. I remember when he became a thing the LP community went after him because his comedy was built on rape jokes. Eventually he apologized and supposedly stopped doing it. It wasn't rape jokes, he would literally just shout rape repeatedly and for no reason.
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Feb 14, 2017 18:37
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fishmech posted:It wasn't rape jokes, he would literally just shout rape repeatedly and for no reason. Retsupurae can confirm
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Feb 14, 2017 18:49
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fishmech posted:What people often forget is that PewDiePie is the son of one of the richest men in Sweden, and his mother was also a rather wealthy CEO in her own right. So basically all of his career is for funsies, because if he completely bombs out of it all he's already got millions in the bank, before you count any of the money he earned on Youtube. I didn't know that, but in retrospective that explains a lot.
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Randler posted:I didn't know that, but in retrospective that explains a lot. He dropped out of the closest thing Sweden has to a CEO programme when he started youtubing, he's as old money as they get without being actual nobility.
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Feb 14, 2017 19:06
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I guess that explains how he was able to parlay being a fairly average LP guy into so many big media partnerships. Already being rich buys you a lot of access to people that can make you successful.
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Baby Babbeh posted:I guess that explains how he was able to parlay being a fairly average LP guy into so many big media partnerships. Already being rich buys you a lot of access to people that can make you successful. or he was stupidly successful at LP and it took off
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Landsknecht posted:or he was stupidly successful at LP and it took off In large part because he could afford to not have a normal job for the literal years it took before he started making enough money for a normal person to no longer have a job, through YouTube.
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fishmech posted:What people often forget is that PewDiePie is the son of one of the richest men in Sweden, and his mother was also a rather wealthy CEO in her own right. So basically all of his career is for funsies, because if he completely bombs out of it all he's already got millions in the bank, before you count any of the money he earned on Youtube. I didn't even know this to begin with Explains a lot
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:I didn't even know this to begin with It really does. Meanwhile the McElroys are building an empire based mostly off of positivity and genuine enjoyment of the things they're doing. I'm kind of glad they're starting to influence the tone of humor on the internet because poo poo has been way too negative for a very long time and suddenly something new is catching on.
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Feb 14, 2017 22:17
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fishmech posted:What people often forget is that PewDiePie is the son of one of the richest men in Sweden, and his mother was also a rather wealthy CEO in her own right. Next thing you'll tell me is that Rosanna Pansino is some kind of Pillsbury dutchess. Anyway, has there been any indication this is hurting YT Red? I know they were banking on PDP for like 2 shows.
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Feb 14, 2017 22:46
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FilthyImp posted:Totally didn't know this and it completely fucks with the idea that "Talented person with some time some creativity and a camera" can become a million-dollar YT superceleb. How does being the son of a CEO give you an advantage in youtubing?
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sarehu posted:How does being the son of a CEO give you an advantage in youtubing? -networking opportunities with vlog stars and network admins -infinite time to sit around vlogging -can buy toys and poo poo to vlog about -can afford high end in home vlog studio really anything you want to do in life is easier if you dont have to worry about maintaining a job to feed yourself and you have a huge budget to play with
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Feb 14, 2017 23:08
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sarehu posted:How does being the son of a CEO give you an advantage in youtubing? you have to make better troll posts than this its too obvious
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It's a pretty minimal advantage. You've still gotta be good at youtubing. He had to sell art and work at a hot dog stand in order to fund things. Edit: quote:After he dropped out of Chalmers, his parents refused to support him,[28] and as a result he funded his early videos by selling prints of his Photoshop art, as well as working at a hot dog stand.[19][43] So there you go. sarehu fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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Feb 14, 2017 23:23
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Yeah and if he failed he would have been homeless and destitute like normal poor people
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Feb 15, 2017 01:15
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Didn't slowbeef relax his opinion on pewdiepie recently. Recall him saying he wasn't so bad and a decent let's player. You could say he's pandering to his fan base with his rape jokes and anti Semitism but is that an excuse.
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Feb 15, 2017 01:16
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sarehu posted:It's a pretty minimal advantage. You've still gotta be good at youtubing. yeah it's a regular rags to riches story after he dropped out of the best technical university in sweden
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sarehu posted:It's a pretty minimal advantage. You've still gotta be good at youtubing. No, it's a pretty huge advantage to building a youtube following when you can afford to put out videos constantly because you don't have to work a job besides it. He did not have to do that, he already had tons of money. His parents refused to give him extra money to pay for the Youtube poo poo on top of all the other money he already had and received from them.
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sarehu posted:It's a pretty minimal advantage. Having an entirely subsidized first world rich person existence, plus all startup costs, plus access to every network opportunity family wealth affords sure is a minimal advantage. It's a wonder he survived that harrowing time in his life and made it to where he is, really. I can't even begin to imagine what it's like to have to work at a hot dog stand for a summer in Sweden.
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It was never a rags to riches story. It's just not something having rich parents helps with. Most people in Norway or Sweden or whatever had the means to do it.
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sarehu posted:It was never a rags to riches story. It's just not something having rich parents helps with. Most people in Norway or Sweden or whatever had the means to do it. No, that's completely wrong. Having rich parents helps a shitload with doing what he did, your average Norge or Swede couldn't have done it anywhere near as easily or quickly, because they don't get to slack off in university and then always have fat stacks from their parents to fall back on. You seem to grossly overestimate their welfare systems and the costs involved with doing what he actually did.
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To basically agree with everyone in a way that will be read as disagreeing with everyone: It was a big advantage but 99% of failsons with that advantage don't change lanes as successfully as he did. I'm being very agnostic about the merit/skill/luck side of things because I don't "get" him as somebody worth watching but whatever tastes differ.
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pangstrom posted:To basically agree with everyone in a way that will be read as disagreeing with everyone: It was a big advantage but 99% of failsons with that advantage don't change lanes as successfully as he did. I'm being very agnostic about the merit/skill/luck side of things because I don't "get" him as somebody worth watching but whatever tastes differ. I don't think anyone is saying that he doesn't "deserve" his success, but the ability to fail repeatedly is actually a huge advantage. This Salon article from last year is kind of tangentially related: http://www.salon.com/2015/01/25/sponsored_by_my_husband_why_its_a_problem_that_writers_never_talk_about_where_their_money_comes_from/ quote:In my opinion, we do an enormous “let them eat cake” disservice to our community when we obfuscate the circumstances that help us write, publish and in some way succeed. I can’t claim the wealth of the first author (not even close); nor do I have the connections of the second. I don’t have their fame either. But I do have a huge advantage over the writer who is living paycheck to paycheck, or lonely and isolated, or dealing with a medical condition, or working a full-time job. The problem is that "being good at youtubing" is a (relatively) low bar when you have a support structure that allows you to fail repeatedly while you get better at whatever it is that you're trying to do. It's like people who insist that software development is a hugely meritocratic industry because a self taught programmer with a good portfolio can probably find someone who will hire them. That's absolutely true, but it also requires that person to support themselves for a year or more while learning and essentially working an unpaid full time job. Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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pangstrom posted:To basically agree with everyone in a way that will be read as disagreeing with everyone: It was a big advantage but 99% of failsons with that advantage don't change lanes as successfully as he did. I'm being very agnostic about the merit/skill/luck side of things because I don't "get" him as somebody worth watching but whatever tastes differ. nobody's disputing that he has worked hard or had talent but there's a shitload of hard working talented kids out there who aren't youtube superstars because they have to work for a living
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I'd dispute that rape kill all jews man has talent. He has a lack of self-awareness, a high-pitched voice, and the ability to run ads for his product.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'd dispute that rape kill all jews man has talent. You could contrast that with someone like Markiplier, who has a jawline that is usually seen in a DC comic and whose voice makes me ovulate spontaneously.
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Wasn't PDP's big "thing" basically working out (by some combination of luck or intent) that the major audience for LPers was kids and producing content accordingly? I think he was one of the first to really figure that out.
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FilthyImp posted:He's decently attractive and used his goofy voice to his advantage. Well, have I got the late Valentine's gift for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyU_1JD2wuA
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Magic Leap, that VR company that had a SFX company make it's demo reel since it doesn't actually have a product, is being sued by the woman they hired to solve their sex discrimination issues for sex discrimination.
I hate brogrammers and brogrammer culture.
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