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Dexo posted:but but the Cavs lost money last year. *lets just ignore just how much that team is worth* ehh, projecting future sale as a reason to go into long-term debt is a bad way to run a business. If you care about the NBA, you don't want teams to do that too much, otherwise contraction is inevitable (and that would really, really suck). Cavs are clearly making decisions apart from money making, which is fine. Plus I suspect the goodwill they are creating now will carry over when their cost is lower (assuming no more comic sans). Owners are doing just fine though, don't shed any tears their way.
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MOVIE MAJICK posted:Can Ibaka post-knee issues still be a defensive anchor? "Still"? He never was. He's been decent this season, same as in OKC. e he's like a really good version of Patrick Patterson.
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https://twitter.com/JLew1050/status/831541990315679747 Glad this wasn't the trade that went down
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/831547412242120704 and that's that for now
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What else does Toronto have to move to get another piece this year? Their higher draft pick? With 1 more decent player they might be able to take 2 games from the Cavs and call it a successful season. Also, pro-level thread name change. Vertical Lime posted:https://twitter.com/AP/status/831547412242120704 There will be a camera guy who's job it is to follow him all night.
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Lockback posted:ehh, projecting future sale as a reason to go into long-term debt is a bad way to run a business. If you care about the NBA, you don't want teams to do that too much, otherwise contraction is inevitable (and that would really, really suck). Yeah. That was pretty much my point said less flippantly. Obviously you don't want years and years of taking losses. But that was being bandied about as a excuse earlier this year... Also keep in mind that's just basketball income. Doesn't Gilbert own the stadium. And a bunch of other property in the area that directly benefits from the team being good.
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dokmo posted:"Still"? He never was. He's been decent this season, same as in OKC. Thank you. This sums up my Ibaka feelings.
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Dexo posted:Yeah. That was pretty much my point said less flippantly. Obviously you don't want years and years of taking losses. But that was being bandied about as a excuse earlier this year... I think he owns the casino right across the street.
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Metapod posted:Holy gently caress Orland is retarded this is what happens when you have a team and gm with no direction.
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I wasn't paying attention to basketball nearly as closely when Serge came into the league, is there any actual reason to believe he's older than 27 besides prejudice against African players?
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BREAKING NEWS https://twitter.com/MasonGinsberg/status/831542507196514304
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His partner-in-crime at Bourbon Street Shots replies: https://twitter.com/SchwanBSS/status/831543683883347968
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this is a great trade and the raps really should have no problem paying the tax going forward. MLSE could heat the ACC with burning money and still make a killing. I liked Ross this year but I think he's one player they can go forward without.They are flush with outside scoring already .
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Carlosologist posted:so what do the Cavs do now that Love is out for an extended period? can't imagine they make a panic move We have this Niko Mirotic.
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TheShazbot posted:this is what happens when you have a team and gm with no direction.  It's probably because the owner and his wife are busy trying to privatize public schools so they can extract profits and inject weird religious poo poo into everyones lives and also busy running their pyramid scheme that they got legalized through millions in campaign contributions, herbalife style They're hosed That's a really good trade for Toronto if they want to solidify themselves as number 2 in the east for a few years. Terrence Ross and the 24th or so pick? So in the end Orlando traded Sabonis Jr, Oladipo, Ersan Ilyasova to get Terrence Ross and a late first round pick. That's a loss but it doesn't look horrible. They're going nowhere. Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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Joel Meyers has opinions on Pelican trade rumors: https://twitter.com/JoelMeyersNBA/status/831549706270433281
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I like the trade for the Raptors but I would not give Ibaka the contract he will get.
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Lockback posted:ehh, projecting future sale as a reason to go into long-term debt is a bad way to run a business. If you care about the NBA, you don't want teams to do that too much, otherwise contraction is inevitable (and that would really, really suck). A couple of things: 1. It took deliberate separation of asset classes and revenue streams to bandy this stat out there. In any measure of fair auditing they still generated positive earnings. Their number wouldn't hold up to scrutiny in court if it came to that. 2. This completely ignores the reality that sports franchises do not get valued by traditional metrics. They are almost unique in that their price is not reflected by future cash flows. Traditional corporate finance metrics are not used in industry for them.
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oh poo poo i didn't even see that the Cavs dealt for Derrick Williams. he was pretty good in the rotation for the Knicks last year, and being on a LeBron team should keep him playing to his best potential. (then again, Dion was on a LeBron team and we all see how that worked out)
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Time posted:A couple of things: You would be shocked and probably appalled at what legal accounting can do to profit/loss
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Dexo posted:but but the Cavs lost money last year. *lets just ignore just how much that team is worth* Not to mention that that 54m in luxury tax money was spread around to 15 or so other teams who were probably happy with their 3.666666666m gift baskets from Daniel Gilbert, paid from his Not Subprime Loans Anymore Business I Swear I swear I swear by the moon and the Star in the sky Anymore profits Dejan Bimble fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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207 million good lord. There no way Lowry actually gets that, right? Though MLSE prints money now that the Leafs are kinda good again
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Come on Vlade, do some trades. Get Boogie some help, not more nut-shots.
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TheShazbot posted:Come on Vlade, do some trades. It's really unfortunate that Rudy Gay tore his Achilles. Not just because it sucks for Rudy but also because he was a great target for a borderline team feeling frisky. Now we have to hope someone thinks Darren Collison or Kosta Koufos is the piece that puts them over the top
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IcePhoenix posted:You would be shocked and probably appalled at what legal accounting can do to profit/loss I have worked on the sale of multiple NBA teams, I'm well aware of what you can sell versus what is legal
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WhyteRyce posted:It's really unfortunate that Rudy Gay tore his Achilles. Not just because it sucks for Rudy but also because he was a great target for a borderline team feeling frisky. Now we have to hope someone thinks Darren Collison or Kosta Koufos is the piece that puts them over the top I would not be opposed to the Pacers trading for Collison. You know you want some Aaron Brooks action...
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LeBron plz send us your 2023 and 2025 first round picks for Collison https://twitter.com/AmicoHoops/status/831550391930191874
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