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Chernobyl Peace Prize: May 7, 2007; Or later, later's fine.
But now would be good.

Gibbering Madness posted:

The real question is, what are TTEs like in a post BUE world? People hungrier that ever now? Or are people having trouble chewing fast due to teeth pain linked to how sweet this game is now?

The chewing rework means you're only able to take a bite once every 3 seconds, but don't worry---this is opening up bold new flavor options for the cooks now that they know you HAVE TO taste it.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 14:55

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# ? May 22, 2024 00:32

Gibbering Madness: Nov 7, 2009; 69 69 69 68

Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:

The chewing rework means you're only able to take a bite once every 3 seconds, but don't worry---this is opening up bold new flavor options for the cooks now that they know you HAVE TO taste it.

Too bad no new food has been invented since 2015

# ? Feb 14, 2017 15:00

Loten: Dec 8, 2005

Jusupov posted:

Recommending Loten for new SG leader

Do it.

Any pro tips for cosmicing? Just keep plowing through the story? I've been doing LQs and the odd X-Defense but what do you guys normally do?

# ? Feb 14, 2017 15:30

Erdricks: Sep 8, 2005; There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!

Loten posted:

Do it.

Any pro tips for cosmicing? Just keep plowing through the story? I've been doing LQs and the odd X-Defense but what do you guys normally do?

Buy a back brace to help avoid spinal damage.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 15:54

Gibbering Madness: Nov 7, 2009; 69 69 69 68

Loten posted:

Do it.

Any pro tips for cosmicing? Just keep plowing through the story? I've been doing LQs and the odd X-Defense but what do you guys normally do?

Drink heavily

# ? Feb 14, 2017 16:15

punchymcpunch: Oct 14, 2012

First, download like 40 hours of podcasts.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 16:20

Holyshoot: May 6, 2010

Loten posted:

Do it.

Any pro tips for cosmicing? Just keep plowing through the story? I've been doing LQs and the odd X-Defense but what do you guys normally do?

What 95% of the people here "normally did" was take a bunch of boxes to a spot and open them for an hour straight and get to cosmic in said hour.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 16:31

punchymcpunch: Oct 14, 2012

Yeah but it took like 6 hours to farm the boxes bro.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 16:32

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK: Sep 11, 2001

Holyshoot posted:

What 95% of the people here "normally did" was take a bunch of boxes to a spot and open them for an hour straight and get to cosmic in said hour.

Even then you would only get to like 20 or 30 if you spent hours farming. You still have to grind LQs.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 16:36

BabyFur Denny: Mar 18, 2003

people like ICR basically never truly cosmic'ed any hero because they just ate XP boosts until they leveled as fast as any new lvl1 fresh account hero.

There, I said it.
ICR is not a real yellowman.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 16:41

Saint Freak: Apr 16, 2007; Regretting is an insult to oneself; Buglord

It took like 7 hours standing in chapter 9 at ~400-500% boost. I imagine it would take like 20+ doing LQs if you really want to because you find them more interesting or whatever.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 16:59

Holyshoot: May 6, 2010

BabyFur Denny posted:

people like ICR basically never truly cosmic'ed any hero because they just ate XP boosts until they leveled as fast as any new lvl1 fresh account hero.

There, I said it.
ICR is not a real yellowman.

RIP you. Been nice knowing you in groot force.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 17:13

punchymcpunch: Oct 14, 2012

One time I cosmiced Colossus with no boosts, it wasn't too bad.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 17:14

malhavok: Jan 18, 2013

The last few cosmics i did took about four hours, xp bonuses and boosts out the wazoo were had.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 17:38

dblankenship81: Mar 1, 2013

Saint Freak posted:

I guess you haven't seen the movies which are the highest of canons and shape the very foundation of marvel games.

According to my old VHS tapes, Gladiators TTK will be < 10 seconds then!

# ? Feb 14, 2017 17:51

Strange Matter: Oct 6, 2009; Ask me about Genocide

What artifacts should I be putting on Thing now that everything is different?

Currently rolling with GOK/SWGN/AdvCirclet/Tanya's Love Letter

What should I be obsessively grinding to no return to not needing to log in anymore?

# ? Feb 14, 2017 17:58

cl_gibcount 9999: Aug 15, 2002

sounds like a decent set there, WSJ/Duke's could go over the tanya letter if you wanted

# ? Feb 14, 2017 18:37

Erdricks: Sep 8, 2005; There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!

punchymcpunch posted:

One time I cosmiced Colossus with no boosts, it wasn't too bad.

I did my cosmic for jean without any boosts (besides the default 210%), but that was before her rework when she had all those passive/on dash damage auras and all I had to do was blindly right click my mouse while watching netflix. It was slow... Probably well over 20 hours over a couple of weeks(totally wild guess there), but it wasn't excruciating because it required so little effort.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 18:41

RubberBands Hurt: Dec 13, 2004; seriously, wtf

Ciaphas posted:

Now comes my usual question for things like this, what's the 'right' way to play him (and other characters for that matter) I'm only level 13 but I've got like a half dozen powers that are variations on 'burn fuckers at range' and I don't really know what to use. (I mean, yes, everything works while leveling, sure, I know)

There's a few good rules of thumb for spending points/item budget in ARPGs that have helped me (before specialized end-game min-maxing)

Overall, damage is king for everything, because it ends fights... but while levelling, the game expects your stats to be all over the place due to bad drops or knowledge, so you can almost always go for fun specs without much fear of hitting a wall.

That being said, anything that increases your damage less then 10-20% can probably be passed over for something else (making something move or cooldown faster, or something else last longer) while levelling. You can treat most survivability the same way (skip 3% more dodge, but prioritize 15% more hp).

Related to that, keep an eye on the actual difference skills make to your stats (20% of your low level stats is worthless poo poo, but can be great when geared), and never take anything that won't make a difference you can perceive. But don't be afraid to respec in 10 levels to take advantage of something now useful with those ~10 points to dump in it (ideally dropping a few other things a nearly imperceptible amount)

If multiple skills still seem like different flavors of the same scaling, look at their cooldowns and how many you can spam continuously. Then put about 50% of your points* in a primary skill for an alpha strike, with the rest of your extra points split between the other skills in your attack rotation.

*Split like this if all the skills have similar scaling, otherwise spend points on whatever increases by the highest % per point (increasing one skill from 500->600 damage is rarely as nice as increasing another in your rotation from 200->300 - partially because it usually means the lower skill probably will scale better).

Also, almost always prioritize spending points to unlock new utility like a movement skill or self heal if you don't have them - but don't grab more then you will actually use

(Ergh I need to re-install, been too long)

RubberBands Hurt fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Feb 14, 2017

# ? Feb 14, 2017 18:43

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

Strange Matter posted:

What artifacts should I be putting on Thing now that everything is different?

Currently rolling with GOK/SWGN/AdvCirclet/Tanya's Love Letter

What should I be obsessively grinding to no return to not needing to log in anymore?

I've been like Crossbones as well.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 18:43

jujojoh: Feb 25, 2016

BabyFur Denny posted:

people like ICR basically never truly cosmic'ed any hero because they just ate XP boosts until they leveled as fast as any new lvl1 fresh account hero.

There, I said it.
ICR is not a real yellowman.

This game is pay to...win? There is no winning in this game so that doesn't make sense either. It's just pay to piss really.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 18:56

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

Can anyone thing of a way to generate some extra Hard Knocks? Would DoTs from procs work?

# ? Feb 14, 2017 19:05

Mover: Jun 30, 2008

RubberBands Hurt posted:

There's a few good rules of thumb for spending points/item budget in ARPGs that have helped me (before specialized end-game min-maxing)

Overall, damage is king for everything, because it ends fights... but while levelling, the game expects your stats to be all over the place due to bad drops or knowledge, so you can almost always go for fun specs without much fear of hitting a wall.

That being said, anything that increases your damage less then 10-20% can probably be passed over for something else (making something move or cooldown faster, or something else last longer) while levelling. You can treat most survivability the same way (skip 3% more dodge, but prioritize 15% more hp).

Related to that, keep an eye on the actual difference skills make to your stats (20% of your low level stats is worthless poo poo, but can be great when geared), and never take anything that won't make a difference you can perceive. But don't be afraid to respec in 10 levels to take advantage of something now useful with those ~10 points to dump in it (ideally dropping a few other things a nearly imperceptible amount)

If multiple skills still seem like different flavors of the same scaling, look at their cooldowns and how many you can spam continuously. Then put about 50% of your points* in a primary skill for an alpha strike, with the rest of your extra points split between the other skills in your attack rotation.

*Split like this if all the skills have similar scaling, otherwise spend points on whatever increases by the highest % per point (increasing one skill from 500->600 damage is rarely as nice as increasing another in your rotation from 200->300 - partially because it usually means the lower skill probably will scale better).

Also, almost always prioritize spending points to unlock new utility like a movement skill or self heal if you don't have them - but don't grab more then you will actually use

(Ergh I need to re-install, been too long)

This isn't bad general advice but uh skill points no longer exist

# ? Feb 14, 2017 19:18

Strange Matter: Oct 6, 2009; Ask me about Genocide

Toshimo posted:

Can anyone thing of a way to generate some extra Hard Knocks? Would DoTs from procs work?

I've pretty consistently stayed in Clobbering Time for the duration of most boss waves in CMMT, so I'm not sure if this is really that much of a problem, is it?

Also Slab of Subterranea is suuuuper tempting for Thing.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 20:12

ICR: Dec 31, 2008

BabyFur Denny posted:

people like ICR basically never truly cosmic'ed any hero because they just ate XP boosts until they leveled as fast as any new lvl1 fresh account hero.

There, I said it.
ICR is not a real yellowman.

That's it. You're doxxed.

Baby fur Denny lives in Upper Greenland and is a penguin killer for a living. He loving taxiderms pengins the sick son of a bitch. Please send hate mail to him at penginkiller69@email.com

# ? Feb 14, 2017 20:26

Chernobyl Peace Prize: May 7, 2007; Or later, later's fine.
But now would be good.

Where's the god drat Summoner update, Obama

# ? Feb 14, 2017 20:26

Mover: Jun 30, 2008

So THAT's why Club Penguin is shutting down

# ? Feb 14, 2017 20:26

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

Strange Matter posted:

I've pretty consistently stayed in Clobbering Time for the duration of most boss waves in CMMT, so I'm not sure if this is really that much of a problem, is it?

Also Slab of Subterranea is suuuuper tempting for Thing.

I'm trying to do a gimmick thing where I keep resetting the 2 dash cooldowns, so I need to keep pinging the top of the meter.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 20:30

Holyshoot: May 6, 2010

SUN GOD AVATAR posted:

That's it. You're doxxed.

Baby fur Denny lives in Upper Greenland and is a penguin killer for a living. He loving taxiderms pengins the sick son of a bitch. Please send hate mail to him at penginkiller69@email.com

mods!!!!!!!!!!!

# ? Feb 14, 2017 20:34

Grinning Goblin: Oct 11, 2004

Holyshoot posted:

mods!!!!!!!!!!!

The mods ignore everything posted by ICR because they just assume it is some foreign language.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:08

cl_gibcount 9999: Aug 15, 2002

Toshimo posted:

I'm trying to do a gimmick thing where I keep resetting the 2 dash cooldowns, so I need to keep pinging the top of the meter.

all you have to do for that is hit mobs with the crashdown and dash

it's terrible damage though so there's no good build in it

# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:22

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

cl_gibcount 9999 posted:

all you have to do for that is hit mobs with the crashdown and dash

it's terrible damage though so there's no good build in it

It's enough damage for Norway, I've found.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:34

PureRok: Mar 27, 2010; Good as new.

Apparently I got through the Cosmic trial on Spider-Man. Makes sense, he's my favorite. But, he's also like my weakest dude clearly.

Did they make the cosmic trial harder at some point? I have no idea how I got through it with Spider-Man. He doesn't even break 1k damage on the character screen.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:54

Jusupov: May 24, 2007; only text

PureRok posted:

Apparently I got through the Cosmic trial on Spider-Man. Makes sense, he's my favorite. But, he's also like my weakest dude clearly.

Did they make the cosmic trial harder at some point? I have no idea how I got through it with Spider-Man. He doesn't even break 1k damage on the character screen.

They made it easier

# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:57

Chernobyl Peace Prize: May 7, 2007; Or later, later's fine.
But now would be good.

What you're experiencing is an easier trial but a shittier Spider-Man by all accounts

# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:02

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

PureRok posted:

Apparently I got through the Cosmic trial on Spider-Man. Makes sense, he's my favorite. But, he's also like my weakest dude clearly.

Did they make the cosmic trial harder at some point? I have no idea how I got through it with Spider-Man. He doesn't even break 1k damage on the character screen.

Character screen damage is largely cosmetic.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:07

PureRok: Mar 27, 2010; Good as new.

Well, I got through the trials with Spider-Man when the trials were first added, and now I can't get through it with anyone else. That's why I thought they made it harder.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:10

Toshimo: Aug 23, 2012; He's outta line...

But he's right!

PureRok posted:

Well, I got through the trials with Spider-Man when the trials were first added, and now I can't get through it with anyone else. That's why I thought they made it harder.

Take your Spider-Man to cosmic patrols, equip a revive or two, and stay safe, collect loot. The problem is self-solving.

# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:12

RubberBands Hurt: Dec 13, 2004; seriously, wtf

Mover posted:

This isn't bad general advice but uh skill points no longer exist

I SAID I NEEDED TO REINSTALL

But yeah, when I say points I mean any unit of stats (itemization/etc)

...And then I just started rambling because I've been playing too much Grim Dawn

RubberBands Hurt fucked around with this message at 22:41 on Feb 14, 2017

# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:35

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# ? May 22, 2024 00:32

ransome: Dec 27, 2012; Cosmic, Baby!

Chernobyl Peace Prize posted:

Where's the god drat Summoner update, Obama

https://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/313403/test-center-summoner-changes#latest

AgentVapor posted:

Hey folks,

In today's Test Center build, one of the major changes has to do with how we are changing the base functionality of summoned allies & summoner-based itemization.

The following aspects have changed for all summoned allies:

All summoned allies now transfer their owners offensive stats to themselves for the purposes of scaling. This includes damage rating, critical hit chance and damage, brutal strike chance and damage, etc.

For typed damage bonuses, only the highest of the three stats will be used to increase summoned ally damage (Physical, Mental or Energy). This prevents "feel bad" if your summon does not share the same damage type as the summoner.

A new "Summon" keyword has been created and applied to all pet powers. This exists in itemization now precisely as other keywords, such as Melee, Area, etc. The previous Summoned Ally Damage stat has been removed and replaced with affixes using this keyword (so items will now have "+x damage rating for Summon powers" for example). Summon powers should scale off this keyword only and not off other keyword affixes, such as "damage rating for Melee powers".

No more references to "Summoned Ally Damage" should exist anymore. There is "Base Damage to Summon Powers" in its place on powers & talents, which is basically the same as all other keyworded damage rating/base damage sources you are familiar with.

Powers that previously scaled off Summoned Ally Damage now instead have an affix that treats them as if they had the Summon keyword. This means rather than inheriting say 25% of Summoned Ally Damage as a built in damage bonus, they now inherit 100% of your summon damage rating/base damage (which stacks the usual way with other items). Damage has been re-tuned on many of these powers.

Essentially, in this upcoming patch we will be changing all summoners to scale off normal damage stats rather than Summoned Ally Damage bonuses.

In terms of testing, please check out the Summoner archetype changes and let us know what you think of the new system. Also, keep an eye out for any bugs you may encounter aside from the two notes listed above that are not converted, such as:

Stats being transferred to summoned allies that should not be (keyword bonuses increasing summon damage, for example)

Specific summoned allies that are not scaling correctly off player stats

Item affixes that are not converted to the new system and still using the old "Summoned Ally Damage %" affixes

Strange behavior such as pets triggering procs that they should not be

Thanks everyone!

also: https://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/313401/test-center-black-bolt-feedback#latest

Black Bolt is on the TC as well

# ? Feb 14, 2017 23:03

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