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Jul 17, 2009


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I wish anyone loved me as much as liberals love those windows.

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anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Doorknob Slobber posted:

Yeah but there is a difference between getting shot at a protest by a guy who went out looking for trouble and someone tracking you down to your home where your wife and kids live and shooting all of you, which to my knowledge, hasn't happened yet. I'm not saying ones not bad, I'm just saying I don't think the alt-right has followed through on any of its specific death threats. (yet)


And this poo poo is extremely hosed up. It wasn't even widely reported in the media, and the little it was reported, it was done in a way that seemed to place blame on the victim. Yet when antifa groups break a windows its the end of the loving world.
Right, so we already know that both the university and the police believe that attempted murder against antifa is justified, so when people try to doxx more antifa or antifa-adjacent people in order to threaten them, that's probably kind of bad a little maybe?

Also I was originally responding to this post

therobit posted:

What does this even mean? Should I be afraid someone will find out if I donate money to someone's medical expenses? What possible harm could xome from that?

GodFish
Oct 10, 2012

We're your first, last, and only line of defense. We live in secret. We exist in shadow.

And we dress in black.
I've donated to the medical fund, but is there anything we can do to get that fucker charged, or suspended or anything?

Teabag Dome Scandal
Mar 19, 2002


GodFish posted:

I've donated to the medical fund, but is there anything we can do to get that fucker charged, or suspended or anything?

lol no the administration doesn't give one single gently caress or is too cowardly to do anything the college republicans might find "oppressive"

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
The victim should be able to press charges but in the end that's up to him

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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anthonypants posted:

The victim should be able to press charges but in the end that's up to him

He's probably not in much state of mind to be pressing charges :(

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

anthonypants posted:

The victim should be able to press charges but in the end that's up to him

Victim can ask to press charges all he wants. They still won't happen unless the prosecutor wants to bring them or the public demands them.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.
He's still in and out of ICU. I'd also like for him to not have been named but like it's already in this thread and everything so I dunno if I should still be cagey about it when everyone who wants to hurt him already has all his info.

UW Campus Police are sworn SPD officers and this broke campus policy and the loving law. They let him walk on an easily-disproven lie and he's still free. Nobody needs to press charges here, the cops have the weapon and witnesses.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time

anthonypants posted:

Right, so we already know that both the university and the police believe that attempted murder against antifa is justified, so when people try to doxx more antifa or antifa-adjacent people in order to threaten them, that's probably kind of bad a little maybe?

Also I was originally responding to this post

And how many of them even have the balls to shoot an unarmed man? One so far. I mean you can worry about it but it ain't likely someone is going to track you down and murder you over a donation.

Do the police already consider this a closed matter or are they just silent on the shooting?

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

George posted:

UW Campus Police are sworn SPD officers and this broke campus policy and the loving law. They let him walk on an easily-disproven lie and he's still free. Nobody needs to press charges here, the cops have the weapon and witnesses.

Yeah, but if they decide to do nothing, then nothing will happen, no matter how unjust it is, no matter how clear it is that the rear end in a top hat did it, no matter how lovely and awful it is... Only the government can actually do anything. It's foul and ridiculous and entirely unfair, but it's ultimately the local authorities call to make. If they don't want to do it on their own and there isn't public pressure to make them do it, it won't happen.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

George posted:

He's still in and out of ICU. I'd also like for him to not have been named but like it's already in this thread and everything so I dunno if I should still be cagey about it when everyone who wants to hurt him already has all his info.

UW Campus Police are sworn SPD officers and this broke campus policy and the loving law. They let him walk on an easily-disproven lie and he's still free. Nobody needs to press charges here, the cops have the weapon and witnesses.
And I hope he gets to sue both the school and the SPD.

George
Nov 27, 2004

No love for your made-up things.

anthonypants posted:

And I hope he gets to sue both the school and the SPD.

loving word. And I agree that it's up to us now to force the cops to do their loving job. Maybe we should talk to our city councilwoman.

HashtagGirlboss
Jan 4, 2005

George posted:

loving word. And I agree that it's up to us now to force the cops to do their loving job. Maybe we should talk to our city councilwoman.

Forget her. People don't ever hold their local prosecutor accountable for some reason. That's who you should be leaning on. You guys elect yours up in Washington like everywhere else, right? That's who you should go after because that's 100% the person who has the power here. Let them know you'll hold them accountable if they don't do something.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
On the one hand prosecutor probably better. But as IWW's release said, noted socialist, activist and city council person Kshama Sawant should be publicly calling that poo poo out too

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
New Seattle Times article about the shooter http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/cellphone-of-admitted-uw-shooter-was-wiped-clean-court-records-show/

e: also a little birdie tells me he's no longer in the student database, so they're probably shielding him

anthonypants fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Feb 15, 2017

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot
So what's the loving deal with Peter DeFazio? He's been basically hiding since November, which is easy to notice when Wyden and Merkley have been out there front and center, fighting the good fight.

I honestly can't think of anything I've heard from DeFazio or his office in like 3 months.


Doorknob Slobber posted:

Yeah but there is a difference between getting shot at a protest by a guy who went out looking for trouble and someone tracking you down to your home where your wife and kids live and shooting all of you, which to my knowledge, hasn't happened yet. I'm not saying ones not bad, I'm just saying I don't think the alt-right has followed through on any of its specific death threats. (yet)

therobit posted:

And how many of them even have the balls to shoot an unarmed man? One so far. I mean you can worry about it but it ain't likely someone is going to track you down and murder you over a donation.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/29/us/30abortion-clinic-violence.html

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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Remember that woman that refused to sell flowers to the gay couple for their wedding? She got her rear end handed to her in WA state supreme court:

https://thinkprogress.org/washington-supreme-court-arlenes-flowers-d15c3d7f3150#.pksqoyfb8

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
Gross. There is a pro Trump rally in Oly on the 4th and the MAGAs are planning on 'packing heat' to protect themselves from 'violent liberals' this is how the civil war starts, not trump, not bannon, these idiots in the streets believing fake news and shooting unarmed activists.

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


Doorknob Slobber posted:

Gross. There is a pro Trump rally in Oly on the 4th and the MAGAs are planning on 'packing heat' to protect themselves from 'violent liberals' this is how the civil war starts, not trump, not bannon, these idiots in the streets believing fake news and shooting unarmed activists.

Is it how civil war starts? It's just more status quo to me, people getting away with hurting/killing people who stand in their way and facing no consequences.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747

ElCondemn posted:

Is it how civil war starts? It's just more status quo to me, white people getting away with hurting/killing people who stand in their way and facing no consequences.

Fixed

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant


White people who kill other white people aren't getting away with poo poo though. If black bloc or others show up, the redhats will back down.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Relevant Tangent posted:

White people who kill other white people aren't getting away with poo poo though. If black bloc or others show up, the redhats will back down.

their permit says 500-1000 people, but I'll be surprised if there are twenty MAGAs, and the time/place of the event is already being posted all over antifa and anarchist website for the area. I stand by saying this is how the civil war starts. Our politicians are big babies who can't do poo poo, but if ignorant right wing gun nuts start getting trigger happy, it can only go on so long before both groups go to these things with guns. (if things continue the way they are.)

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Doorknob Slobber posted:

their permit says 500-1000 people, but I'll be surprised if there are twenty MAGAs, and the time/place of the event is already being posted all over antifa and anarchist website for the area. I stand by saying this is how the civil war starts. Our politicians are big babies who can't do poo poo, but if ignorant right wing gun nuts start getting trigger happy, it can only go on so long before both groups go to these things with guns. (if things continue the way they are.)

The police will come down really hard on the redhats if they're dumb enough to draw. All antifa has to do is show up and take pictures and the redhats will quickly stop showing up. The real question is if antifa can police their own enough not to draw first blood.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Relevant Tangent posted:

The police will come down really hard on the redhats if they're dumb enough to draw.
Huh. First time I'm hearing of this. Source for this claim?

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

My butt. (Also the love police have for their own ability to use excessive force and the denial of that ability to civilians.)

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Lotta nazi posters were put up last night on UW campus. This isn't the first time. It angers me that they are becoming bolder.

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Huh. First time I'm hearing of this. Source for this claim?

They did arrest that dude who had the gun and 70 rounds of ammo at the blm protest down in portland, he was even convicted.

Mr. Lobe posted:

Lotta nazi posters were put up last night on UW campus. This isn't the first time. It angers me that they are becoming bolder.

this is hosed up, I wish I still lived up there, I'd wander the campus at night watching for these fucks to take pictures of them

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Doorknob Slobber posted:

this is hosed up, I wish I still lived up there, I'd wander the campus at night watching for these fucks to take pictures of them

I'm working with campus left groups to make sure 1. if caught, these people will face consequences (Cauce's being a real coward about making hard declarations here, but we are pushing her office on this point), and 2. that people are vigilant, and prepared to do as you say. I can't say much more about it without compromising strategy, but other things are also in the works. We are not planning on being idle about this.

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Mr. Lobe posted:

Lotta nazi posters were put up last night on UW campus. This isn't the first time. It angers me that they are becoming bolder.
Again - sources?

I mean I'm all Fox Mulder up in here - I want to believe - but I'm not gonna fly off half-cocked because some no-cock posted some hearsay

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


coyo7e posted:

Again - sources?

I mean I'm all Fox Mulder up in here - I want to believe - but I'm not gonna fly off half-cocked because some no-cock posted some hearsay

"again?" I'm not sure what you mean by that and I'm not exactly sure what you mean saying "sources" when I'm clearly reporting first hand and I'm also not sure why you find what I am telling to be so implausible when we had a guy loving shot by those types here, but take a look:






Satisfied?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Doorknob Slobber posted:

They did arrest that dude who had the gun and 70 rounds of ammo at the blm protest down in portland, he was even convicted.


this is hosed up, I wish I still lived up there, I'd wander the campus at night watching for these fucks to take pictures of them
Portland is not Olympia, and Michael Strickland is by far the exception and not the rule. There was even a shooting in UW that happened really recently that you should probably check up on.

Mr. Lobe posted:

"again?" I'm not sure what you mean by that

Satisfied?
He's saying "again" because it's the second time he's asked for a source for something someone's said in this thread

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

anthonypants posted:

Portland is not Olympia, and Michael Strickland is by far the exception and not the rule. There was even a shooting in UW that happened really recently that you should probably check up on.

Testy, testy. seattle is not olympia either, but I am aware of recent events.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

coyo7e posted:

Again - sources?

I mean I'm all Fox Mulder up in here - I want to believe - but I'm not gonna fly off half-cocked because some no-cock posted some hearsay

If only there was some kind of news article about one of the recent incidents, with pictures, a complete description of what happened, and references to the continuing Nazi poster issue, that would come up in the first results on a google search for "UW Nazi posters".

http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/02/16/24877015/uws-glenn-hughes-theatre-vandalized-with-neo-nazi-recruitment-posters

http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/Theater-poster-plastering-latest-in-string-of-UW-10938965.php

coyo7e
Aug 23, 2007

by zen death robot

Mr. Lobe posted:

Satisfied?
that was not super difficult then, was it? I'm glad that we can move to the next page. And thanks - for realsies - for actually coming up with something to back up what I was asking for proof of

I apologize for being such a disruptor, however, as was mentioned it's not the first time somebody's come in to post an out-of-breath two-or-three sentence post telling us about something (which I Agree Was Bad) and who didn't really give a drat to back it up.

The last thing I'd want to do is whip out some alt-media story about racist literature or people being attacked by not-Nazis and then be shown how much of a LIEberal I was for sharing it with others. :)

DevNull
Apr 4, 2007

And sometimes is seen a strange spot in the sky
A human being that was given to fly

coyo7e posted:

that was not super difficult then, was it? I'm glad that we can move to the next page. And thanks - for realsies - for actually coming up with something to back up what I was asking for proof of

I apologize for being such a disruptor, however, as was mentioned it's not the first time somebody's come in to post an out-of-breath two-or-three sentence post telling us about something (which I Agree Was Bad) and who didn't really give a drat to back it up.

The last thing I'd want to do is whip out some alt-media story about racist literature or people being attacked by not-Nazis and then be shown how much of a LIEberal I was for sharing it with others. :)

Here are some more that I took last November and December.






Death flights for context https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_flights








My wife took this one.

Several of those have been within several hundred feet of my apartment. A week ago there was a swastika spray painted over a flyer in a bus stop 200 feet from my apartment. Yeah, they are getting bolder. Also, I always tear this poo poo down.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

Nice Soviet helicopter they got on their Nazi stickers.

Lazy_Liberal
Sep 17, 2005

These stones are :sparkles: precious :sparkles:
good night left side doesn't even rhyme

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Lazy_Liberal posted:

good night left side doesn't even rhyme
But it does rhyme with "good night white pride"

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
They want to throw us out of helicopters? That's going to be a slow, expensive way to kill us all.

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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

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As a side note, neo-nazis like to hide razor blades behind stuff they post, so that if it gets torn off, the person tearing it gets cut. So exercise caution when pulling them off and consider using a tool of some sort to not hurt yourself.

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