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Greatbacon
Apr 9, 2012

by Pragmatica

blue squares posted:

People are super interested all around the country. Put up fliers and a facebook page, people will start sharing it, and people will show up.

Yeah, and if you are on a college campus you can organize around YDS (young dem soc) which has a lower membership threshold and might receive a little more help from the national office.

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MShadowy
Sep 30, 2013

dammit eyes don't work that way!



Fun Shoe

blue squares posted:

People are super interested all around the country. Put up fliers and a facebook page, people will start sharing it, and people will show up.

I'm trying to do some of my usual dumb anime to make a statement about this myself, but I'm feeling rather demoralized at the moment; makes it a little hard to concentrate.

E: Also, getting too distracted with Trumpery.

MShadowy has issued a correction as of 22:54 on Feb 13, 2017

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Doorknob Slobber posted:

I think that right now, in most places the best place to put your effort is working in the democratic party. In some areas you can be lucky enough to vote for actual socialists and even win or get close to winning. I think going forward a great deal can be taken from Socialist Alternative's success. The candidates they pick to run are also very active activists that work on their other social campaigns like 15 Now and rent control and resisting DAPL. I think that is something to keep in mind at the local level going forward, even when working within the democratic party.

But working within the democratic party is good because of the amount of effort Bernie's campaign put into the primary in organizing people to get involved in the party and also just building his name brand. If I was a democrat running for office I would love the Berniecrat label, especially if Bernie himself runs in 2020, I would love if he announced really early that he was planning on running. Partially because loving Donald Trump is already running.

Utilizing Bernie's structure and support base by working within the democratic party instead of focusing on a third party is probably (unfortunately) the most pragmatic thing to do right now. And at the local level put a lot of focus on moving policy through initiatives and electing the vocal people who work on those initiatives to office.

since the democratic party does not have an actual base its probably the only time in history where entryism is a good idea

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Top City Homo posted:

since the democratic party does not have an actual base its probably the only time in history where entryism is a good idea

Yes, and in quite a few states there are some absurd limitations on getting on the ballot. Entryism is absolutely the way to go there in the short term. Libertarians, the most widely available 3rd party, are only in 33 states.

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
Im gonna take my loving country back.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

unbutthurtable posted:

Anyone know the technical requirements of gang tags? I might be able to have a friend put something together soon.

No real reqs beyond the forum norms. I have a template i used for this one i can share

Only registered members can see post attachments!

Hilario Baldness
Feb 10, 2005

:buddy:



Grimey Drawer
Should somehow tie with the Sanderista gang tag

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

"here's how bernie can still win"

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

"here's how bernie can still win"

bernie should talk some serious, serious poo poo about white nationalist groups until he gets assassinated and becomes a martyr

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

got drunk with dsa cadre tonight and it owned

cheese
Jan 7, 2004

Shop around for doctors! Always fucking shop for doctors. Doctors are stupid assholes. And they get by because people are cowed by their mystical bullshit quality of being able to maintain a 3.0 GPA at some Guatemalan medical college for 3 semesters. Find one that makes sense.

Doorknob Slobber posted:

bernie should talk some serious, serious poo poo about white nationalist groups until he gets assassinated and becomes a martyr
I hope he lives to be a hundred and at the end is entirely fueled by his anger.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Grognan posted:

Starting to consider that organizing paramilitary groups alongside all available action might not be a bad idea.

its a patriotic duty

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correspondence_committee

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind


quote:

The committees promoted patriotism and home manufacturing, advising Americans to avoid luxuries, and lead a more simple life.

this sounds... anticapitalist

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

collaborators, civil rights is actually one of the core tenets of the DSA

an actual dog
Nov 18, 2014

the democrats throw abortion rights under the bus constantly

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977
The left, reknowned for their pro-life stances.

platzapS
Aug 4, 2007

guys what if Trump offers us socialism, but in exchange roe v wade had to be overturned???

Oh Hell No
Oct 10, 2007

I've got the world on a string.


platzapS posted:

guys what if Trump offers us socialism, but in exchange roe v wade had to be overturned???

free community college for all but *rolls giant novelty idpol dice* no gay marriage?

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Why are dems loving imbeciles

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

literally decades of capitalist media telling them that achieving both social and economic justice is impossible; you can only have one

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

slack based struggle sessions

Yossarian-22
Oct 26, 2014

I went to a DSA anti-valentines bar thing and it was v cool and v good! Really high turnout for a Tuesday night

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme
In honor of the budding revolution I would like to remind everyone that you can only build a mass organization with an actual infrastructure

the good news is that the internet provides a basically cost free way of getting it done if literally the most minimum of effort is taken

I have taken that minimal effort to a new height and now provide you a list of tools you can use to set up virtual soviets in the heart of this rotting land ruled by an orange madman

1.) Set up your own functioning social network/website

Use this: https://developers.oxwall.com/

it's free. The hosting is dirt cheap and anyone can set it up.

You can easily merge all the social channels into it and mirror other allied channels (other DSA chapters, Robert Reich etc.)

The idea is to have a clearing house of information for organization

see the events of other chapters

2.) Instead of fighting about who is a tankie, make decisions with every DSA chapter using this collab tool

https://www.loomio.org

it integrates with slack

3.) March on something or meet somewhere using this private map GPS app

http://www.waveapplication.com/

Then talk using signal + Whatapp

if you want to create groups or customize stuff you can probably also try this advocacy progressive tool https://www.salsalabs.com or these dudes

https://actionnetwork.org/toolset but it costs more Trumpbucks

There it is: your resource to creating a virtual soviet/committee of correspondence

I hope someone takes the 30 minutes it takes to get this documented and set up.

Cheers!

Top City Homo has issued a correction as of 08:50 on Feb 15, 2017

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Top City Homo posted:

In honor of the budding revolution I would like to remind everyone that you can only build a mass organization with an actual infrastructure

the good news is that the internet provides a basically cost free way of getting it done if literally the most minimum of effort is taken

I have taken that minimal effort to a new height and now provide you a list of tools you can use to set up virtual soviets in the heart of this rotting land ruled by an orange madman

1.) Set up your own functioning social network/website

Use this: https://developers.oxwall.com/

it's free. The hosting is dirt cheap and anyone can set it up.

You can easily merge all the social channels into it and mirror other allied channels (other DSA chapters, Robert Reich etc.)

The idea is to have a clearing house of information for organization

see the events of other chapters

2.) Instead of fighting about who is a tankie, make decisions with every DSA chapter using this collab tool

https://www.loomio.org

it integrates with slack

3.) March on something or meet somewhere using this private map GPS app

http://www.waveapplication.com/

Then talk using signal + Whatapp

if you want to create groups or customize stuff you can probably also try this advocacy progressive tool https://www.salsalabs.com or these dudes

https://actionnetwork.org/toolset but it costs more Trumpbucks

There it is: your resource to creating a virtual soviet/committee of correspondence

I hope someone takes the 30 minutes it takes to get this documented and set up.

Cheers!

nice, I'll add this to the OP

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

this sounds... anticapitalist

it was very anti :monocle: anti shithead elitist kind of radical movement

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committees_of_safety_(American_Revolution)


quote:



The development of coalition and interest-group politics greatly alarmed both royal officials and more conservative Patriots.[6] For example, William Henry Drayton, the prominent South Carolina planter who had studied at Oxford University, complained about the participation of cobblers and butchers, stating that "Nature never intended that such men should be profound politicians, or able statesmen.[6] In 1775, the royal governor of Georgia "noted in astonishment that the committee in control of Savannah consisted of 'a Parcel of the Lowest People, chiefly carpenters, shoemakers, Blacksmiths etc with a Jew at their head."[6][7]

Nitrousoxide
May 30, 2011

do not buy a oneplus phone



Ace of Baes posted:

nice, I'll add this to the OP

I'd also recommend signal for encrypted communications.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.thoughtcrime.securesms

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Ace of Baes posted:

nice, I'll add this to the OP

you may already be covered with slack / facebook, but for purposes of event broadcasts and recruiting, there's also meetup. it's super easy to use and v accessible, and in addition as a company they're promoting resist

https://www.meetup.com

Accretionist
Nov 7, 2012
I BELIEVE IN STUPID CONSPIRACY THEORIES

Top City Homo posted:

In honor of the budding revolution I would like to remind everyone that you can only build a mass organization with an actual infrastructure

the good news is that the internet provides a basically cost free way of getting it done if literally the most minimum of effort is taken

I have taken that minimal effort to a new height and now provide you a list of tools you can use to set up virtual soviets in the heart of this rotting land ruled by an orange madman

1.) Set up your own functioning social network/website

Use this: https://developers.oxwall.com/

it's free. The hosting is dirt cheap and anyone can set it up.

You can easily merge all the social channels into it and mirror other allied channels (other DSA chapters, Robert Reich etc.)

The idea is to have a clearing house of information for organization

see the events of other chapters

2.) Instead of fighting about who is a tankie, make decisions with every DSA chapter using this collab tool

https://www.loomio.org

it integrates with slack

3.) March on something or meet somewhere using this private map GPS app

http://www.waveapplication.com/

Then talk using signal + Whatapp

if you want to create groups or customize stuff you can probably also try this advocacy progressive tool https://www.salsalabs.com or these dudes

https://actionnetwork.org/toolset but it costs more Trumpbucks

There it is: your resource to creating a virtual soviet/committee of correspondence

I hope someone takes the 30 minutes it takes to get this documented and set up.

Cheers!

UNITED SOVIETS OF AMERICA

Edit: Alt-USA

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Top City Homo posted:

SOME GOOD poo poo

Thanks, comrade

Doorknob Slobber
Sep 10, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Thanks. I stole this and posted it all over the various progressive/socialist facebook groups I'm in because using technology to be organized is a good thing that political people don't do well.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Does the DSA have any flyers or graphics I can use for recruitment?

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Condiv posted:

Does the DSA have any flyers or graphics I can use for recruitment?

http://www.dsausa.org/basic_resources

has the cornel west flyer and i posted some sweet agitprop for signs in the first couple pages of the thread

A cool damn horse
Jan 25, 2009

Join DSA a little over a month ago and might see if I can get something going in central IL here. There's already a new champaign-urbana branch and I'm pretty excited for it!

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer
I knew 15 people at the last DSA meeting that had gotten into activism via repro justice and became wildly disillusioned after it became clear that PP was uninterested in anything but grooming future major donors.

two of them are on the board of an org that provides direct grants for abortions because they were upset about how much PP throws abortion under the bus.

like seriously do these people not remember stupak.

dems are trash.

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Doorknob Slobber posted:

Thanks. I stole this and posted it all over the various progressive/socialist facebook groups I'm in because using technology to be organized is a good thing that political people don't do well.

with Internet communism you take what you need friend

also keep in mind that the most effective route of mass organizations is first and foremost a grassroots community that discusses the issues that they care about and then tries to change them in an organized way outside of electoral politics

Parents have 3 jobs and can't watch the kids? Set up a childcare coop and get those parents involved

Payday loans sucking up money from the poor? Sponsor a credit union existing or otherwise and get them signed up and the payday loans out of business

You want to have parallel institutions that compete and supplant the legitimacy of our elected "representatives" by solving the problems of neglected communities through direct democratic participation

You can empower people by having them thrust into a responsible position

The energy and stark contrast of a mass organization that actually takes care of its constituents vs stagnant elected neoliberal governments creates momentum to replace worthless politicos because as soon as people see another path and another vision the more they want it

Imo

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Bushiz posted:

I knew 15 people at the last DSA meeting that had gotten into activism via repro justice and became wildly disillusioned after it became clear that PP was uninterested in anything but grooming future major donors.

two of them are on the board of an org that provides direct grants for abortions because they were upset about how much PP throws abortion under the bus.

like seriously do these people not remember stupak.

dems are trash.

could you go into more detail about this? or pm me? thanks

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Condiv posted:

could you go into more detail about this? or pm me? thanks

Seconded, I thought PP was on the up and up

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Top City Homo posted:

In honor of the budding revolution I would like to remind everyone that you can only build a mass organization with an actual infrastructure

I hope someone takes the 30 minutes it takes to get this documented and set up.

Cheers!

This is really awesome. We recently started discussing software and infrastructure at our DSA meeting. Apparently it is a requirement from DSA national that a chapter has the ability to rapidly reach out to members (via text, call, etc) for flash gatherings like airport protests. We formed a small committee to start setting that up, but our chapter is just getting started and there is such an obvious need for infrastructure in general.

Action Network seems to imply that it is free for "small groups," but I couldn't find the definition of that or pricing otherwise. To me it definitely seems like the way to go. It integrates with a bunch of stuff, including CallHub.

Also it looks like SalesForce has a 10 user license available for non-profits. I think DSA chapters are 501(c)(3), which sounds like it qualifies.

I will definitely post some guides once we start making more progress. I think having the right infrastructure in place is probably one of the most important things we can do. I'm actually surprised that DSA national does not have something in place for its chapters.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Oh Hell No posted:

free community college for all but *rolls giant novelty idpol dice* no gay marriage?

I mean I think it's completely reasonable to worry that any political movement, left or right, might abandon minority civil rights in the name of popular appeal, especially minorities like american muslims and transpeople who are marginal populations that generate suspicion and controversy from leftist and liberal bigots as well as neo-fash ones

but yeah that stuff is still mad dumb bc, you know, the democratic party has an actual track record of having done so

also quickie poll: how far are you guys from your nearest chapters and how far do you usually go to attend meetings and events? I've never done any political organizing before, but am considering getting some friends and acquaintances and starting our own chapter bc the nearest one is about two hours away and seems pretty inactive/disorganized

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Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Top City Homo posted:

with Internet communism you take what you need friend

also keep in mind that the most effective route of mass organizations is first and foremost a grassroots community that discusses the issues that they care about and then tries to change them in an organized way outside of electoral politics

Parents have 3 jobs and can't watch the kids? Set up a childcare coop and get those parents involved

Payday loans sucking up money from the poor? Sponsor a credit union existing or otherwise and get them signed up and the payday loans out of business

You want to have parallel institutions that compete and supplant the legitimacy of our elected "representatives" by solving the problems of neglected communities through direct democratic participation

You can empower people by having them thrust into a responsible position

The energy and stark contrast of a mass organization that actually takes care of its constituents vs stagnant elected neoliberal governments creates momentum to replace worthless politicos because as soon as people see another path and another vision the more they want it

Imo

is this what a friendly leftcom looks like????? :popeye:

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