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ImpAtom posted:I know they're not really a 'thing' in current DC but with Captain Marvel going by Shazam have they ever clarified what Mary Marvel and Captain Marvel Jr would be called these days? They didn't do it for Mary, but one of the first things during the whole 'Freddie powers up his entire family' sequence in the Shazam backups, he says 'Call me King Shazam'. Teenage Fansub posted:Here's a preview and interview for the first issue that just went up. Can I just say how tired I am of 'character has blood/mud/whatever across them/their clothing that just happens to make it look like their old design'? Zealot's scene there in the first panel immediately makes me go 'ugh'. KaosMachina fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Feb 14, 2017 |
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Madkal posted:Woah there. Where are those wrong opinions coming from, friend? ImpAtom posted:This except exactly the opposite. FIGHT ME
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Feb 14, 2017 16:06
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No, fight ME
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Feb 14, 2017 16:11
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Sounds like it's time for a BSS Great Outdoor Fight.
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Feb 14, 2017 16:13
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WickedHate posted:Sounds like it's time for a BSS Great Outdoor Fight. Nah this would require us to be outdoors
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Feb 14, 2017 16:17
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Look man, I'm a nerd. Why does it have to be outside? I hate the sun.
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KaosMachina posted:They didn't do it for Mary, but one of the first things during the whole 'Freddie powers up his entire family' sequence in the Shazam backups, he says 'Call me King Shazam'. Oh god, that's both awful and kind of amazing. (The joke being that Captan Marvel 3 was a major inspiration for Elvis.)
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Rhyno posted:FIGHT ME Look man, I don't fight people who are wrong, I just educate them. With my fists.
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Crosspost, but everyone should know there's a miniseries coming for Young Animal about Jack Kirby's Forager, from the Allreds  http://www.avclub.com/article/allred-family-pays-tribute-jack-kirby-young-animal-250254 
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Teenage Fansub posted:Crosspost, but everyone should know there's a miniseries coming for Young Animal about Jack Kirby's Forager, from the Allreds *punch* HIS! NAME! WAS! FORAGER!!!!
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ImpAtom posted:Oh god, that's both awful and kind of amazing. Honestly 'both awful and kind of amazing' is the best summary of that story overall I can honestly give. Even though I personally love it.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Here's a preview and interview for the first issue that just went up. Oh hey, so it's going to have its own Apollo & Midnighter. Curious how Jenny's going to work this time round. On the basis of what's happened so far, I'd imagine the spirit of the 21st century could be something really quite ugly...
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Just read it and none of those folks are in yet. It was pretty interesting. Very cold, near-near future type sci-fi. It reminded me a lot of Ellis' Injection. Flipped through Batwoman and it looks like 90% recap, so we won't have to tell everyone in the world to get Batwoman: Elegy first anymore (though, of course, they should.) Edit: Apparently in today's Justice League there's some special girl schooling the JLs on DC continuity and Cyborg ends up in LOSH times. https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/02/15/future-dc-universe-batwoman-justice-league-spoilers/ Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Oh boyquote:The character is already starring in the current “I Am Bane” arc of Tom King and David Finch’s “Batman” series, and CBR has the exclusive first word that writer Chuck Dixon and artist Graham Nolan will return to their creation in DC Comics’ upcoming 12-issue series “Bane: Conquest,” scheduled to debut in May.   Still using venom, they hosed up the mask's design, Bird is using a loving drone now. Why DC keeps loving up Bane? 
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Oh boy Yeah and why is Batman so sad about his dead parents? While we're at it why is the Joker still a crazy clownman?!
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Dreqqus posted:Yeah and why is Batman so sad about his dead parents? While we're at it why is the Joker still a crazy clownman?! As I've said many times before, writers are simply lazy when it comes to Bane. He moved from the whole thing pretty fast (and by Dixon no less) after Kinghtfall and remained clean of Venom from the most of his publication history until the N52. The only reason they keep going back to the junkie, obsessed Bane portrait is because they can't let TDKR go. But hell, they moved the Joker already from his usual characterization. Why not doing the same with Bane?
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Feb 15, 2017 18:41
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gently caress those right wing pieces of poo poo anyway
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Feb 15, 2017 18:44
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Oh no!!!! DC is doing something different you don't like!! The sky is falling!!
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purple death ray posted:gently caress those right wing pieces of poo poo anyway It's a shame. I really loved Dixon's DC stuff in the 90's.
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Spoilers for Nightwing! Of course they spend the whole issue going 'this is someone I could settle down with!' with their new character- who I actually liked!- and then just fridge her at the last page. Of course they do.
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Feb 15, 2017 20:41
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Man, I loved seeing Bane's dumbass Knightfall henchmen pop up in Batman.
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I know, I know, D_T says stupid poo poo, but can we stop straight up making up reasons to disagree with him? Like it's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed Bane keeps getting mishandled and having his character reverse after every bit of development. It makes getting mad at the actual stupid poo poo D_T says harder when everyone twists themselves around to being as vindictive as possible.
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Feb 15, 2017 21:43
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I kinda like the idea that falling back on a venom dependency turns you into the 90's.
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WickedHate posted:I know, I know, D_T says stupid poo poo, but can we stop straight up making up reasons to disagree with him? Like it's perfectly reasonable to be annoyed Bane keeps getting mishandled and having his character reverse after every bit of development. It makes getting mad at the actual stupid poo poo D_T says harder when everyone twists themselves around to being as vindictive as possible. The problem is, and I've said this before, that Bane as he wants him is a Bane destined to be reverted because it cuts pretty much every distinctive element of the character out. No matter how much you like that change (and believe me, I'm fond of changes) comics are going to revert to the marketable status quo version of the character. For Bane that is the big powerful brute addicted to Venom, because it gives him a distinctive gimmick and niche you won't find elsewhere. It is why every version of Bane has some variation on that, even the drastically different ones. Yes, it sucks that comics revert a change you like, and I agree with that, but it's like expecting Electric Superman to stick around. Even if you really like Electric Superman it's too different from the character concept to ever remain. Likewise it's hard to sympathize with D_T because he is 100% okay with changes to characters he doesn't like or doesn't care about. He's only unhappy because it is a character he cares about where elsewise he's made the exact opposite argument and said it's fine that it happened because he didn't care about that character.
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Just because the stagnant nature of comics is as it is doesn't mean it should never be complained about. Or at the very least we shouldn't act like someone complaining is, if perhaps overly focused on it and brings it up too much(which I think D_T has like once or twice before?), incorrect simply because they say otherwise stupid stuff. Like I'm not even saying obviously characters should age in real time and poo poo, but like, as soon as D_T says [x] is bad you have people coming out and defending [x] as actually not a problem at all because if D_T doesn't like it must be good. I'm also fine with pointing out D_T is hypocritical when/if that occurs. But if D_T said if he liked Watchmen I'm pretty sure BSS would compare it unfavorably to Amazons Attack.
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I just don't want to read the exact same argument every two weeks like when the last arc to feature Bane was coming out.
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Roth posted:I just don't want to read the exact same argument every two weeks like when the last arc to feature Bane was coming out. Pretty much this. Any time Bane is in a comic DT comes on here to let us know that this is not his Bane! It is annoying because it happens every time. We know his feelings towards Bane. They aren't going to change. Anything that happens with Bane will be met with a reply of "...but that's not what Bane means to me" over and over again and it gets tiresome and annoying hearing it.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:01
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Harper Row will help him kick venom and he'll be on the Detective Comics team.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Harper Row will help him kick venom and he'll be on the Detective Comics team. Maybe he can become a gym teacher at Gotham Academy.
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Feb 15, 2017 22:10
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The best Bane was Secret Six Bane. 
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Last time this conversation came up I suggested that they just turn Bane into El Santo. I was really only half joking, I'd 100% read that.Madkal posted:Maybe he can become a gym teacher at Gotham Academy. gently caress, I'd read that too. I need to catch up on all sorts of comics.
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Mr Hootington posted:The best Bane was Secret Six Bane. Bat Bane was hilariously ludicrous.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Harper Row will help him kick venom and he'll be on the Detective Comics team. Quit playing games with my heart
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purple death ray posted:Quit playing games with my heart Batman and Bane Eternal comes first, so it'll be a few years.
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Speaking of permanent changes to characters? Green Lanterns #17 was a really, really, really good issue. I don't know if my summarizing can actually do it justice, but basically Batman confronts Simon with some harsh truths about his reliance on his gun...it's suggested that Simon isn't actually afraid that the ring will fail him, but that he himself will fail to protect his family and friends from all the poo poo in the world that's out to get them. The ring depends on Simon being reliable, the gun doesn't, and that's why he favors the gun. Or rather, favored, because ultimately he chooses to use the ring instead of the gun here to blow up the big fear-inducing machine and save the day. Then he decide that he's going to stop carrying the gun from now on, because Green Lanterns don't need it. I immediately appreciate the character ten times more than I used to, and apparently Batman does too because he then says that Simon is a GL that he can truly work with, unlike Hal or Guy. It's especially nice because at first you think this arc was just going to end the same way these arcs always do when two different heroes have conflicting philosophies, with both parties going "You and I may have different methods, but through the course of our adventures we've come to see each other's sides! My methods works for me and yours works for you! EVERYTHING IS EQUAL! STATUS QUOS FOREVER, YAY!" Nope, Simon's methods were just wrong here and Batman was right to chew him out, and from now on Simon's methods are going to be different. (It's also kind of a funny moment because Simon makes this big grand moment of giving up the gun by handing it over to Batman and Batman's like "...I don't want that." And Jim Gordon takes it instead  )
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I mean I was never ever going to read a Bane book anyway, but definitely not by Chuck Dixon of all people in the year 2017. That's just laughable. I mean has he written anything other than a bunch of lovely GI Joe comics in the last 15 years? Robin and Nightwing were a long time ago.
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I would absolutely read a Bane book, are you kidding me? (but also, yeah, not by Chuck Dixon)
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Bane is fine in a supporting or villain role. I don't need a solo book for him though.
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N.B. When I pseudo-defended the whole "not my Bane" thing earlier I somehow missed that the fact that the story invalidates all of the development Chuck Dixon put into the character and that fucks up the original design by Graham Nolan was coming from an announcement about a new Bane series by Chuck Dixon and Graham Nolan. But yeah, I know people (myself included) complain about creators' politics but Chuck "Clinton Cash/giving Milo interviews about how lovely and PC the comics industry" Dixon is kind of beyond the pale. It would be beyond the pale if he was '67 Jack Kirby but it's even worse when yeah, he was a marginally above replacement superhero writer 20 years ago who has sort of hosed around doing toy tie-in comics for the past decade.
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I know everyone is different, but even though I vehemently disagree with his politics I don't tend to hold that against creators. If it seeps into a book and I don't like it I'll stop reading it. I don't want to read a Chuck Dixon book in 2017 because I think it'll be really bad, not because I disagree with him on pretty much everything.
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