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Feb 15, 2017 16:19
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Reverand maynard posted:What does IC mean?
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Feb 15, 2017 16:20
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Reminder that three weeks ago Trump stood at the CIA memorial wall and said, "I want to just let you know, I am so behind you. And I know maybe sometimes you haven’t gotten the backing that you’ve wanted, and you’re going to get so much backing. Maybe you’re going to say, 'please don’t give us so much backing. Mr. President, please, we don’t need that much backing.' But you’re going to have that."
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Feb 15, 2017 16:22
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Svartvit posted:Reminder that three weeks ago Trump stood at the CIA memorial wall and said, "I want to just let you know, I am so behind you. And I know maybe sometimes you haven’t gotten the backing that you’ve wanted, and you’re going to get so much backing. Maybe you’re going to say, 'please don’t give us so much backing. Mr. President, please, we don’t need that much backing.' But you’re going to have that." Backing into a corner maybe.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:26
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I really hope this results in Mattis taking control of the security force marines at the White House. There is no way Bannon goes quietly. He will convince trump to do something dumb.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:33
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Reverand maynard posted:I really hope this results in Mattis taking control of the security force marines at the White House. There are four Marines at the White House. They are there for ceremonial guard duties, not actual security. No one is going to call them to do anything other than open the door or hold an umbrella. If anything, it'd be a tense standoff between Secret Service agents and possibly FBI agents.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:37
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I know its probably a silly question, but do you think anyone has sat old Donnie down and told him the gravity of the situation? Edit: I mean this situation would be comically easy to diffuse but the fact that he isn't makes me wonder what he's hiding.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:38
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 I have a faint glimmer of hope that the GOP will see reason, and go along with impeachment if the IC does mange to conclusively link Trump to Russia. But then again, jenkemest timeline etc 
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Feb 15, 2017 16:39
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I know its probably a silly question, but do you think anyone has sat old Donnie down and told him the gravity of the situation? I don't think Donnie has ever gotten burned. Daddy bailed him out. Rapes wife but gives her hush money. He'salways thrown enough money (his or his dad's) at problems until it's gone away. I don't think he realizes what consequences are.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:44
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https://twitter.com/blakehounshell/status/831889877872558080 and Harward has been offered the NSA job Robert Harward plans a housecleaning of Trump’s National Security Council staff quote:President Donald Trump offered the job of national security advisor to retired Vice Adm. Robert Harward on Monday night, and was a bit surprised when Harward responded by saying he needed a couple of days to think it over. He would also be the second former deputy of Mattis that is around after Kelly. A Handed Missus fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 16:47
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In a bit over an hour Trump and Netanyahu have a press conference
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Feb 15, 2017 16:49
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So while the CIA et al and the White House are engaged in mortal combat who or what exactly is to stop Russia or whomever from doing anything they want during the infighting?
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Feb 15, 2017 16:53
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davecrazy posted:So while the CIA et al and the White House are engaged in mortal combat who or what exactly is to stop Russia or whomever from doing anything they want during the infighting? Nothing. They've already been sailing off the coast, moving new weapons systems of questionable treaty legality around, and increased shelling on Ukraine. They've been caught funding Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, making trouble in Syria. They've got free reign.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:55
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Man I loving hate Pence but for the good of our country I hope he isn't crooked. This will be a lot easier if one of the people that was voted in wasn't complicit in this.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:55
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Svartvit posted:Reminder that three weeks ago Trump stood at the CIA memorial wall and said, "I want to just let you know, I am so behind you. And I know maybe sometimes you haven’t gotten the backing that you’ve wanted, and you’re going to get so much backing. Maybe you’re going to say, 'please don’t give us so much backing. Mr. President, please, we don’t need that much backing.' But you’re going to have that." Is that an actual quote? Jesus, did he learn English in a room alone as a child? (probably) Edit: So is Harward a good choice? I've never even heard of the guy until the past couple of days.
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Feb 15, 2017 16:59
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CommieGIR posted:Supposedly Malaysian Police have found the two bodies of the women who assassinated Kim's brother. First rule of assassination. Kill the assassin.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:02
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Feb 15, 2017 17:02
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CommieGIR posted:Nothing. They've already been sailing off the coast, moving new weapons systems of questionable treaty legality around, and increased shelling on Ukraine. They've been caught funding Taliban fighters in Afghanistan, making trouble in Syria. They've got free reign. Why haven't they just swallowed the Ukraine yet? That's what I don't get
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Feb 15, 2017 17:03
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Nuclear War posted:Why haven't they just swallowed the Ukraine yet? That's what I don't get Well, the Ukrainians might have something to say about it  Also, real answer, the Russian military is a tad extended right now, Russia doesn't want the non Russian parts or the Ukraine (yet), and they are currently consolidating power by murdering Russian separatists to bring the rest in line.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:05
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Reverand maynard posted:Man I loving hate Pence but for the good of our country I hope he isn't crooked. This will be a lot easier if one of the people that was voted in wasn't complicit in this.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:05
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I think it's two things: first, they can effectively bleed out the Ukrainian resistance at relatively low cost to Russia, making their final actions easier and faster (and once they're in, they're IN...just like Crimea). Second, waiting until the US is in the midst of a constitutional crisis/coup/impeachment proceedings with nobody bothering to pass a budget that'll allow for rapid massive military response effectively removes the US from the table completely, if we're even viewed as a potential adversary right now. Edit: Reverand maynard posted:Yeah, Russia isn't going to do anything that would warrant a full response from Europe. It's a lot harder to convince all of the EU to respond if Putin is just constantly putting his toe over the line in the sand over and over again. I completely forgot about this...since the EU is crumbling and NATO (without US support) is effectively worthless, that's the only other piece that really matters. Godholio fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 17:06
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Smiling Jack posted:Well, the Ukrainians might have something to say about it Russia is also known for taking their time. See some other border disputes where they just kicked the fence out a foot a year until they'd stolen miles of land.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:11
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Yeah, Russia isn't going to do anything that would warrant a full response from Europe. It's a lot harder to convince all of the EU to respond if Putin is just constantly putting his toe over the line in the sand over and over again. Vietnam was the first future war where everything is either proxy vs proxy or state vs proxy. When we were in Iraq we fought non-state actors that were proxies for Iran and Saudi Arabia. Syria, Yemen, Ukraine, they all have legit countries shooting the rebels that are sponsored by other countries, but very little open battles between the big players. Russia is however taking this to a new level by having their own military pose as a proxy when fighting Ukraine. PookBear fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 17:13
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https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedBen/status/831901461793611777 Donnie and his associates will never run out of ways to gently caress up.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:25
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Reverand maynard posted:Yeah, Russia isn't going to do anything that would warrant a full response from Europe. It's a lot harder to convince all of the EU to respond if Putin is just constantly putting his toe over the line in the sand over and over again. That's the hope, right? But Putin isn't exactly the only decision-maker in Russia. In military matters he tends to take a lot of advice from his generals and council - in fact, there's evidence that shows that Ukraine is becoming a bit of a sore spot with him, hence his recent reshuffle of his inner circle. At this point I don't think even Russia knows its endstate past the annexation of Crimea. Crimea's more or less a lost cause at this point, but the Donbass region is still in play. Europe's already established their complete inability to control the Russians - the Minsk II agreement isn't worth the paper it's printed on. And Europe will never, ever mount a full response against Russia without the US leading it. If anything I wish they'd lift the sanctions against Russia. They're not achieving the desired results.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:32
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facialimpediment posted:Donnie and his associates will never run out of ways to gently caress up. It really is loving insane how everyone on Trump's team lacks the ability to simply shut the gently caress up. It's like a police show where they catch the criminal because he's drunk in a bar bragging about how much money he stole.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:34
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Godholio posted:Is that an actual quote? Jesus, did he learn English in a room alone as a child? (probably) A true ciceronian. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_SXqfzvp-I&t=90s
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Feb 15, 2017 17:37
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Putin's end goal is to cause chaos. The UK has left/is leaving the EU. The USA is occupied with Trump and Flynn. There is a war in Ukraine but its not actually effecting the rest of Europe like Syria is. Putin and Russia aren't going to fix their economy and become a loving power house the same way the US is and what China is becoming. They can however gently caress the rest of the world up and bring everyone else down to their level.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:40
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I think Mattis's comments to NATO is a subtle way of saying "we're currently hosed, start fixing your military"
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Feb 15, 2017 17:45
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https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/831847716506497027?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw Also: Robert Harward has been picked to replace Flynn. Admiral Harward has says he'll need to think about it. https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/831898680886181889 
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Feb 15, 2017 17:49
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CommieGIR posted:https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/831847716506497027?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw So would it be illegal to sail another EM ship right next to the trawler and blast a whole bunch of electronic noise so that it fucks off and goes home?
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Feb 15, 2017 17:57
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Why not sneak a fast attack boat up the the spy ship and just start pinging away.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:58
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Bit of a dick move to say it that way, but he's pretty much speaking his mind and saying something that should have been on the table for a long time. Problem is that it's gonna take an actual traumatically big fuckup to get NATO, in particular the leading European nations, to work towards a considerable increase in defense spending. The nations that are still recovering from the recession, and especially those that are still eyeballing full economic collapse because of populist politics, are never going to think about defense spending. And the easiest way to deflect Mattis' suggestion is that he's part of the Trump administration, and lol Trump administration.
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Feb 15, 2017 17:59
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Trump/Netanyaho press conference about to start
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Feb 15, 2017 18:02
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The various intel agencies really need to remove Fox News. They can start with a bunch of tragic two gunshots to the back of the head suicides among Fox & Friends. bij fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Feb 15, 2017 |
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Feb 15, 2017 18:03
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https://twitter.com/SenJohnMcCain/status/831869005552054273 defensive lethal assistance sure is a nice phrase
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Feb 15, 2017 18:07
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It's live. Trump is still the shittiest orator in recent history. At least the speech so far is just your run-of-the-mill Israel ball-coddling.
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Feb 15, 2017 18:18
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he went off the script to say that the Iran deal is the WORST
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Feb 15, 2017 18:18
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So war in the Middle East without intelligence support? How does that end?
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Feb 15, 2017 18:20
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jfc
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