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WickedHate posted:That's certainly a...conservative estimate of Silver Surfer's power. Eh, he isn't THAT strong. 
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ImpAtom posted:Eh, he isn't THAT strong. C'mon man, have some respect for the dead.
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Elfface posted:That's just a ranking of raw lifting capacity, right? Not actually a 'best at stuff' ranking. So Black Bolt can bench roughly as much as The Thing? Daredevil is nearly as strong as Captain America?  Although I remember a bit in Miller's Daredevil where he just pushed open a locked safe from the inside, so maybe there's something to that. 
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This was probably asked the last time that page was posted but who's the guy in the red coat in the Super-Heavyweights section?
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Doc Hawkins posted:So Black Bolt can bench roughly as much as The Thing? Daredevil is nearly as strong as Captain America? Yes. Black Bolt pretty much beat up Thing in their first meeting. I know he's just Yelling Man now, but he's really loving strong, too. And Cap has no super-strength, he's just peak human. So a superfit ninja is probably pretty close. Alaois posted:This was probably asked the last time that page was posted but who's the guy in the red coat in the Super-Heavyweights section? That's Wonder Man.
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Wanderer posted:I'm thinking rather specifically of the OHOTMU from the mid-1980s and that issue of Marvel Two-in-One where the strongest humans on Earth get abducted to box with the Champion. Sasquatch is basically (like all the others) "whatever the writer wants". Here he is throwing a 250 ton plane... X-Men 120 
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ImpAtom posted:Eh, he isn't THAT strong. I'm assuming that, since this is Spider-Man's chart, he's the one putting words in everyone's mouths. This explains Luke Cage. "Geez, what does Mister Cage say? I've only met him a couple times and last time I tried a cool guy handshake and he looked at me funny. Something about Christmas? 'Something something Christmas'? Jiminy? Is that it? Or am I being racist? I hope I'm not being racist. I better go team up with him to show him I'm not racist."
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I haven't thought about Wonder Man since the first Civil War. But enough about ancient (comic) history. Guess what's back? Sex Criminals that's what.  
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Who's the pacifist guy in white? Jesus? Also, hope I'm not too late for Valentine's: 
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Red posted:Who's the pacifist guy in white? Jesus? The Squirrel Girl dating issue was magical.
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Red posted:Who's the pacifist guy in white? Jesus? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wundarr_the_Aquarian
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Duke Igthorn posted:I'm assuming that, since this is Spider-Man's chart, he's the one putting words in everyone's mouths. This explains Luke Cage. "Geez, what does Mister Cage say? I've only met him a couple times and last time I tried a cool guy handshake and he looked at me funny. Something about Christmas? 'Something something Christmas'? Jiminy? Is that it? Or am I being racist? I hope I'm not being racist. I better go team up with him to show him I'm not racist." "Sweet Christmas" took a while to come about. Cage was saying just "Christmas!" or "____ Christmas!" or "Sweet _____!" (or other exclamations) before the famous one appeared and started to take hold. It's kinda funny in hindsight how close he gets before ever saying it, almost as if it were being teased. Depending on when this page was written maybe Cage didn't have the phrase yet?
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I like how Spider-woman is straight up "you only put me below you on this chart because I'm a woman!".
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biracial bear for uncut posted:I like how Spider-woman is straight up "you only put me below you on this chart because I'm a woman!". Their powers and origins are completely unrelated, so technically, there's no real reason why their strength should be the same.
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I think she was still a hyper-evolved spider back then, so there's really no reason she wouldn't have the proportional strength of a spider as well. Literally. So yeah, Spidey was being hella sexist.
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Doc Hawkins posted:Daredevil is nearly as strong as Captain America? I think technically that weight class merely meant "really loving strong but still within human limits." That still leaves room between MERELY "really loving strong" and "as strong as humanly possible."
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Lurdiak posted:I think she was still a hyper-evolved spider back then, so there's really no reason she wouldn't have the proportional strength of a spider as well. Literally. So yeah, Spidey was being hella sexist. Dudes have more muscle mass, put your sexist card back in your pocket.
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reignonyourparade posted:I think technically that weight class merely meant "really loving strong but still within human limits." That still leaves room between MERELY "really loving strong" and "as strong as humanly possible." This is true for all the classes, yeah. Some will be at the top of their class, some at the bottom.
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Lurdiak posted:I think she was still a hyper-evolved spider back then, so there's really no reason she wouldn't have the proportional strength of a spider as well. Literally. So yeah, Spidey was being hella sexist. Well, humans don't have gorilla strength. Except for Beast...
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This is amazing. Today's Captain America: Steve Rogers  Today's Justice League 
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Lurdiak posted:And Cap has no super-strength, he's just peak human. I have no real way to disagree with you, but this is very much not the impression my comics-reading has given me. I guess it's true that he doesn't solve problems by breaking through walls or knocking over tanks. But that just underlines how ridiculous it is to try to make a strict ordering over some quality which would be primary for physically real people, but is secondary for fictional ones. It's like making a height chart for Gargantua and Pantagruel when the "giants" are always as big as is currently convenient to the author. It's downright ulillillia-esque.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Dudes have more muscle mass, put your sexist card back in your pocket.
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Johnny Aztec posted:Dudes have more muscle mass Yeah but women fly faster and have better telepathy. 
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Lurdiak posted:I think she was still a hyper-evolved spider back then, so there's really no reason she wouldn't have the proportional strength of a spider as well. Literally. So yeah, Spidey was being hella sexist.
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Ghostlight posted:She was never actually a hyper-evolved spider, those were just false memories. They weren't false yet!
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^^arrgh, was typing this before that reminder was posted Cap clearly has super-strength and the "peak human" explanation is a bit of feel-good mumbo jumbo. Like yes, I suppose if at any moment, every part of my body were as strong or fast as they would need to be to break every single Olympic record, even fifty or a hundred years from now, and all of that strength and speed fit into a frame like Rogers' (instead of needing to be as stocky as a weight-lifter or as gangly as a high-jumper), and limitless stamina meant that I could be as strong or as fast as I am in those moments for as long as necessary, then I'd be "only" peak human but otherwise that is effectively super-powered.
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Teenage Fansub posted:This is amazing. 
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But my important nitpicking on the reliableness of Hydra implanted memories as authoritative story devices! [Secret Wars Too]
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X-O posted:Real smooth move there.  Green Lantern is the best hero.
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And how! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGcdYB8vF_c
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That toad later became a Green Lantern.
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