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Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot
If they want to automate this computer poo poo thats fine, I'm more than willing to grab a shovel so we can rebuild our infrastructure and build a glittering nation of the future

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Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe

feelix posted:

lol hillary lost

:hf:

Flynn talked with Russia or not... don't care. if it warms relations I am all for it.
My off the cuff thought.

Laughing at everyone that seems to enjoy and want the cold war to come back.Yet were A O K with the Iran agreement.

Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Feb 15, 2017

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Today economists play the role within capitalism that priests played in the Middle Ages, namely to provide justification for the dominant social system and like the priests they urge us to tolerate current oppression and exploitation with the promise of better times to come.




:honk:

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
Your shoveling job has been replaced by a shoveling robot that doesn't embarrass the globo-corp by posting on gay forums during work hours

Egbert Souse
Nov 6, 2008

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

If they want to automate this computer poo poo thats fine, I'm more than willing to grab a shovel so we can rebuild our infrastructure and build a glittering nation of the future

I'm sure people with college degrees and years of skilled trade experience would love to work on infrastructure labor.


Actually, one idea would be to get wealthier people to do the labor. Basically, have it count as community service and they get a tax break for working on this stuff.

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Toadvine posted:

Your shoveling job has been replaced by a shoveling robot that doesn't embarrass the globo-corp by posting on gay forums during work hours

D'oh... Shovel-Bot ftw

Fog Tripper
Mar 3, 2008

by Smythe
Fact: It is easier to stay afloat in salt water.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I'm still not in a position where a total collapse would devastate me so I rolled the dice

Truly we have nothing to lose but our chains, comrades.

Yuli Ban
Nov 22, 2016

Bot
"Trump's hosed"

Lol indeed. This is a worthless waste of time. Ever since Watergate, our standards for the holder of the high office have dropped considerably. The fact we even elected Donald Trump should make it drat obvious that having already Russia-friendly aides that talked to Russian spies is the equivalent of firing your starter gun once against the final boss— and you haven't leveled up all game.

That being said, I'm certain Donald Trump is, indeed, hosed. hosed harder than any president in 90 years, in fact, and by things that are beyond his control and have been for decades.

I heard about this new scandal breaking, and the first thing I thought was this:

Clintonoids: Trump's gently caress't now! Impeachment imminent; prepare for Pence.

Trumpettes: Lol libtard tears remade the Pacific Ocean over fake news.

Except that wasn't for this scandal— that was for something back in December. Remember the whole Trump University thing? Scandals have been coming out regularly, just getting doled out. Makin' it rain with tears of the winners and losers. If this set-up applies, it won't affect Trump.

When will Trump actually be hosed?

Anti-Trump: Oh poo poo! Trump hosed us up. He's gotta man up and carry us out!

Pro-Trump 1: loving poo poo, Trump was had. There's no way he could have prepared for this.

Pro-Trump 2: It's the loving Judeo-Bolshevik Masonic NWO that did this! It's all THEIR fault!


When this discourse begins, then I'll actually feel that Trump's on his last legs politically. The MSM talking about links to Russia can be construed as "fake news". The Dow dropping 2,000 points and the unemployment rate hitting 15-18% can only be called "fake news" by someone in a mental asylum or working for Minitrue. And I'm being serious, not all joky and saying "That's what America's become lol".

And yes, I am talking about economic collapse. I was never an alarmist about this problem until late last year, in October. I was sure that Clinton would win and she'd become USica's first depression president in nearly a century, thus killing off SJWism, neoliberalism, and neoconservatism once and for all. But then Trump won and I went "Oh lawd. Oh lawdy lawd."

I'll throw the Anti-Trump crowd a bone and say: This is very likely going to happen soon. And as the first Pro-Trump crowd will say, there was no way he could have possibly prepared for what's coming. No one could have. Everyone's second-favorite Socialist Jew Carpenter couldn't have done gently caress all either. Clinton? She might have kicked the can down the road a bit, but probably not long enough to make it wholly the next president's problem.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
I'ma Judeo-Bolshevik crypto-jew

a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Egbert Souse posted:

I'm sure people with college degrees and years of skilled trade experience would love to work on infrastructure labor.


Actually, one idea would be to get wealthier people to do the labor. Basically, have it count as community service and they get a tax break for working on this stuff.

ugh they'd just find a loophole to take advantage of the tax break without actually doing any work, that's what they always do.

proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Toadvine posted:

Your shoveling job has been replaced by a shoveling robot that doesn't embarrass the globo-corp by posting on gay forums during work hours

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ2PdpLEAG0

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood
i still cannot believe there are actual hillary supporters left on this earth

how stupid can you be shes been corrupt all her life and you still wanted her for president? lmao

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Yuli Ban posted:

When will Trump actually be hosed?

And as the first Pro-Trump crowd will say, there was no way he could have possibly prepared for what's coming. No one could have. Everyone's second-favorite Socialist Jew Carpenter couldn't have done gently caress all either. Clinton? She might have kicked the can down the road a bit, but probably not long enough to make it wholly the next president's problem.

The whole American system is a Ponzi scheme that will inevitably collapse, you just want something solid to exist there so it can rebuild after the POP

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender

Toadvine posted:

Your shoveling job has been replaced by a shoveling robot that doesn't embarrass the globo-corp by posting on gay forums during work hours
I hope it can manage that at the same time.

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

I'm still not in a position where a total collapse would devastate me so I rolled the dice
I'm having trouble reconciling the idea that things are really bad for you with the admission that a total economic collapse wouldn't affect you. It would make more sense to admit that you're bored so you rolled the dice.

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

Spunky Psycho Ho posted:

My hope was Trump's business intuitions and pragmatic approach to things would guide him to legalization

It's OK, I think a lot of people were fooled by that "Apprentice" show.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

texting my ex posted:

i still cannot believe there are actual hillary supporters left on this earth

how stupid can you be shes been corrupt all her life and you still wanted her for president? lmao

They're still here on these very forums, in this drat thread even. If you reading this supported Hillary then lol what the gently caress

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

a bone to pick posted:

ugh they'd just find a loophole to take advantage of the tax break without actually doing any work, that's what they always do.

they'll find a worker willing to do the community service for them for 1 or 2% of the money they get from the tax break

Spunky Psycho Ho
Jan 26, 2007

by zen death robot

Knight posted:

I hope it can manage that at the same time.
I'm having trouble reconciling the idea that things are really bad for you with the admission that a total economic collapse wouldn't affect you. It would make more sense to admit that you're bored so you rolled the dice.

I don't want this to happen, I want things to get better, but I don't have kids and I'm still healthy and kind of young so now is better than later

SBJ
Apr 10, 2009

Apple of My Eye

Laughter in the Sky
He actually did it. The things he said he would do while campaigning before winning an election. The absolute madman!

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

texting my ex posted:

i still cannot believe there are actual hillary supporters left on this earth

how stupid can you be shes been corrupt all her life and you still wanted her for president? lmao

there is a shitload on these forums hiding out in their little echo chamber known as c-spam

i hear tell they will probate you for mentioning bernie could've won :slick:

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



ASK ME ABOUT
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Yes Woody Allen's Captain Planet with his free rainbow services for everyone forever was definitely going to get elected that is not at all a loving dumbfuck thing to think!

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

fyodor posted:

Yes Woody Allen's Captain Planet with his free rainbow services for everyone forever was definitely going to get elected that is not at all a loving dumbfuck thing to think!

populism got trump elected, don't be retarded


rezatahs posted:

there is a shitload on these forums hiding out in their little echo chamber known as c-spam

i hear tell they will probate you for mentioning bernie could've won :slick:

bernie could have won but he lost his primary entirely on his own failings by the time super tuesday 2 rolled around so mentioning it is kind of pointless

pick a different hill to die on because bernie's lovely campaign strategy in the primary prevented him from ever being a contender in the first place

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

SBJ posted:

He actually did it. The things he said he would do while campaigning before winning an election. The absolute madman!

Yeah he def drained that swamp by immediately appointing a ton of billionaires to his cabinet thereby cutting out that pesky middleman they had to lobby all the time!

Knight
Dec 23, 2000

SPACE-A-HOLIC
Taco Defender

rezatahs posted:

there is a shitload on these forums hiding out in their little echo chamber known as c-spam

i hear tell they will probate you for mentioning bernie could've won :slick:
I dunno man

SBJ posted:

He actually did it. The things he said he would do while campaigning before winning an election. The absolute madman!
Hillary Clinton is in jail?

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

Knight posted:

I dunno man

Hillary Clinton is in jail?

Obamacare's swift, day 1 repeal also definitely happened

rezatahs
Jun 9, 2001

by Smythe

Mirthless posted:

populism got trump elected, don't be retarded


bernie could have won but he lost his primary entirely on his own failings by the time super tuesday 2 rolled around so mentioning it is kind of pointless

pick a different hill to die on because bernie's lovely campaign strategy in the primary prevented him from ever being a contender in the first place

yeah on his own failings. not on collusion by the dnc and media to tank his chances because it was "her turn" :grin:

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


rezatahs posted:

yeah on his own failings. not on collusion by the dnc and media to tank his chances because it was "her turn" :grin:

little of column a, little of column b

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

Mirthless posted:

populism got trump elected, don't be retarded


bernie could have won but he lost his primary entirely on his own failings by the time super tuesday 2 rolled around so mentioning it is kind of pointless

pick a different hill to die on because bernie's lovely campaign strategy in the primary prevented him from ever being a contender in the first place

i went to college and i voted for trump

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Remember when they tried to attack Bernie via falsehoods about his religious affiliation?


lol scratch a liberal and a fascist bleeds eh?

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

rezatahs posted:

yeah on his own failings. not on collusion by the dnc and media to tank his chances because it was "her turn" :grin:

yeah sorry he lost way before that ever became a real issue

the campaign was fully over by the time the nevada primary controversy came up. the superdelegates may have had an impact, but they're not why he lost the entire south and half the states he absolutely needed to win on Super Tuesday 2

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

Mirthless posted:

yeah sorry he lost way before that ever became a real issue

the campaign was fully over by the time the nevada primary controversy came up. the superdelegates may have had an impact, but they're not why he lost the entire south and half the states he absolutely needed to win on Super Tuesday 2

yes because "dnc and the media" means "only superdelegates and nothing else"

no wonder you weren't smart enough to go to college or vote for the correct candidate (trump)

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Poetic Justice posted:

I've always leaned more left than right. I think some people get confused because I make fun of the left more now, but that's because it's currently a lot easier :)

Yeah, not much to make fun of in Trump or his cabinet. :birddrugs:

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Bernie probably would have been the best canidate out of this election but if you seriously thought he would become president you're heavily misguided. Emphasis on probably because we will never truly know because that guy is now forever out of the action.

Also what was up with that goon naming his child after him?

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

feelix posted:

yes because "dnc and the media" means "only superdelegates and nothing else"

no wonder you weren't smart enough to go to college or vote for the correct candidate (trump)

media collusion did not cause bernie sanders to pull all campaign staff and advertising dollars from the half of the country he perceived as too black to vote for him

Tad Devine and or Jeff Weaver were responsible for that decision and they are the ones you should be mad at

our failure to hold these people accountable insures we will see them both in left politics for years to come

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost

EorayMel posted:

Bernie probably would have been the best canidate out of this election but if you seriously thought he would become president you're heavily misguided. Emphasis on probably because we will never truly know because that guy is now forever out of the action.

Also what was up with that goon naming his child after him?

we were pretty close to 100% sure that they just filled out a blank form as a goof

feelix
Nov 27, 2016
THE ONLY EXERCISE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH IS EXERCISING MY ABILITY TO MAKE A POST PEOPLE WANT TO READ

Mirthless posted:

media collusion did not cause bernie sanders to pull all campaign staff and advertising dollars from the half of the country he perceived as too black to vote for him

Tad Devine and or Jeff Weaver were responsible for that decision and they are the ones you should be mad at

our failure to hold these people accountable insures we will see them both in left politics for years to come

ensures*

Thirsty Girl
Dec 5, 2015

feelix posted:

ensures*

lol at a trump voter lording over people for having poor language skills

Homestar Runner
Oct 9, 2012

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idgaf about the goon-fighting ITT but Mirthless u were one of the standout neolib retards in a forum loaded with retards throughout the entire election cycle and u have obviously learned nothing, like a retard

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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
In the Capitalist system, all things are commodified to their most extreme limit; including labor itself. Once commodified, it is under the influence of Market forces, thus the value of labor, and the people therein, is dictated by the skill sets of other people and the abundance, or lack thereof, of said skill sets. And so the value of the individual is dictated, through no interference of their own, by the actions of others with equal skill sets. This is the supply and demand of the labor market in its most brutally collectivist form. The Communist, on the other hand, seeks to decommodify all individuals and judge all individuals by their merits rather than their market value. This is true individualism.



Also gently caress the DNC lol how are superdelegates even a loving thing. These people have undue influence over who our elected officials get to be by simply virtue of the fact that they are plugged in to the party machine in a way that the common man could never be.

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