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Generic American posted:She's technically second-in-command, right after DadRyder in the line of succession for being the Pathfinder. But for whatever reasons that we haven't been shown or told yet, the player gets that promotion instead. My best guess is that she either screws up big time and that's what kills DadRyder, or she gets a brief chance during the game's prologue and just can't hack it. Why do we need an explanation beyond 'nepotism'?
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Feb 16, 2017 03:26
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I still can't buy the thing about dad Ryder being the best soldier, scientist and explorer ever and just loving amazing at everything he does. gently caress, I want him to be the main character
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Feb 16, 2017 03:37
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Milky Moor posted:Pfft. I don't see why you'd ever think that's a problem. Why, don't we just look at the Bioware Facebook page to make it clear that everything will be just fi- In defense of Bioware, their fanbase spawns a ton of memes out of their games, but BW themselves have never really exploited memes for cheap laughs. A few fanservice-y throwaway references, but that's really all.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:38
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nerdz posted:I still can't buy the thing about dad Ryder being the best soldier, scientist and explorer ever and just loving amazing at everything he does. But then how would your character have daddy issues?
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Feb 16, 2017 03:39
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nerdz posted:gently caress, I want him to be the main character
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Feb 16, 2017 03:40
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The daddy issues are coming from inside the house!
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Feb 16, 2017 03:41
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Can't wait to find out that it was between him and Shepard to become the first human Spectre.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:50
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Dexo posted:Can't wait to find out that it was between him and Shepard to become the first human Spectre. thought the first human considered was Anderson
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Feb 16, 2017 03:51
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Admiral Ray posted:thought the first human considered was Anderson Anderson was first. Was also too old and washed up. Ryder dad is probably closer to Shep's age and time in the military.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:52
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Dexo posted:Anderson was first. Was also too old and washed up. Eh, honestly he probably turned out to be more useful in the Alliance anyway. It's not like Shepherd has been getting promotions. Meanwhile Anderson became an admiral. midwat posted:But then how would your character have daddy issues? It'll turn out that TIM cloned Cora using Dad Ryder genetic material so during your sexlationship with her you'll have to come to terms with her being your only living dad.
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Feb 16, 2017 03:56
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Dad Ryder is like 10-15 years older than Anderson
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Feb 16, 2017 03:56
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Dexo posted:Can't wait to find out that it was between him and Shepard to become the first human Spectre. His deep, personal trauma is the time Shepard held his head in a toilet and gave him a swirly.
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Dexo posted:Anderson was first. Was also too old and washed up. That wasn't it, Anderson was considered for Spectre candidacy when he was 28 years old. Saren sabotaged his chances by blaming Anderson when the mission they were on together failed (Saren actually went rogue and killed their target to steal the research they were after for himself). It's why Anderson hates Saren in the first game.
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Feb 16, 2017 04:20
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Dr. Abysmal posted:That wasn't it, Anderson was considered for Spectre candidacy when he was 28 years old. Saren sabotaged his chances by blaming Anderson when the mission they were on together failed (Saren actually went rogue and killed their target to steal the research they were after for himself). It's why Anderson hates Saren in the first game. Which is still a crazy-compacted timeline. First contact was in 2157, and Anderson was considered for specter status in 2165. Also shepherd was 29 at the start of ME, leaving dad Ryder to be considerably older.
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Feb 16, 2017 08:08
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Olaf The Stout posted:Which is still a crazy-compacted timeline. First contact was in 2157, and Anderson was considered for specter status in 2165. Yeah, Mass Effect would have worked a lot better if it was 100+ years after first contact instead of barely 30. Just set it in 2283 and a lot of poo poo makes more sense (human agitation for a council seat, first Spectre you don't have loving cutting edge scientists who remember aliens being a myth etc) Like Shepard was born before the first human went through a mass relay.
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Olaf The Stout posted:Which is still a crazy-compacted timeline. First contact was in 2157, and Anderson was considered for specter status in 2165. Ehhh, the negotiated peace by the Citadel after the first contact war could account for such an early trial run for a human spectre. I mean, really, the turians hosed up bigtime by attacking humanity without telling the citadel council. I think another 50 or 80 years from first contact would have made the timeline MUCH more acceptable.
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Drifter posted:Ehhh, the negotiated peace by the Citadel after the first contact war could account for such an early trial run for a human spectre. I mean, really, the turians hosed up bigtime by attacking humanity without telling the citadel council. It just seems really bizzare that humanity has usurped so many other races for a shot at the council, specterhood, and mass colonazation of the stars in an astoundingly short time. Humanity's complete integration into society and technology is so, so fast, especially considering some of the aliens live for over a thousand years. It seems like humanity should still be on probationary access to the citadel, not vying for top dog in the known intergalactic community. Edit: poo poo, the volus drat near control the intergalactic economy and humanity has rushed passed them. Olaf The Stout fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Feb 16, 2017 08:34
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Hedrigall posted:
why is liara hitting on the good doctor is the new salarian a boy or a girl
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But isn't that a thing in Mass Effect, that Humanity was accomplishing a lot in a short amount of time, and no one was sure what to make of it or if they were "ready" for the responsibility of being on the council and having a Spectre?
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SgtSteel91 posted:But isn't that a thing in Mass Effect, that Humanity was accomplishing a lot in a short amount of time, and no one was sure what to make of it or if they were "ready" for the responsibility of being on the council and having a Spectre? I wonder how that's not viewed as threatening, especially with a large faction with seemingly unlimited resources willing to do corrupt and illegal things under the veneer of "human first" policies.
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Feb 16, 2017 08:42
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One of the old drafts of the story had humans being some engineered species that could interface with Prothean tech really well and as a result was leaping ahead of everyone else, so it's either a holdover from that or just more humans rule xenos drool.
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It's always Humans Rule Xenos Drool.Olaf The Stout posted:It just seems really bizzare that humanity has usurped so many other races for a shot at the council, specterhood, and mass colonazation of the stars in an astoundingly short time. Humanity's complete integration into society and technology is so, so fast, especially considering some of the aliens live for over a thousand years. It seems like humanity should still be on probationary access to the citadel, not vying for top dog in the known intergalactic community. Even in space, Jews are always overlooked. 
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This games coming out in a month and we don't know dick about half the companions and the multiplayer or any abilities
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steakmancer posted:This games coming out in a month and we don't know dick about half the companions and the multiplayer or any abilities Doesn't matter, my hope is that everyone who preordered will share all of that with us once the game is released. Also, it sounds like they're kicking into gear with the publicity train in a week or two.
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Drifter posted:It's always Humans Rule Xenos Drool. *puts on Bioware fan cap* Hmm, what does turian drool taste like?
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I think Pull is a safe bet.. but I wouldn't put much on Push
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Hedrigall posted:*puts on Bioware fan cap* Hmm, what does turian drool taste like? It's an excellent dip to use with your dried krogan skin flakes.
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Drifter posted:
DS9 has at least three civilisations that work as Jewish analogues.
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Did that book ever come out?
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Remember that the reason humanity came up onto the scene so quickly was because the Prothean ruins found on mars were super advanced and complete compared to what the rest of the civilizations were finding, according to the codex from the first game. The council races were also in a bit of a dark age because they were still recovering from the Rachni Wars that lead into the Krogan Rebellions, and the whole Geth problem. The council had lost a ton of territory, and humanity happened to come at exactly the right time out of nowhere with comparable tech to what everyone else had been finding bits and pieces of for thousands of years or something. Except then in Mass Effect 3 we learn the Asari actually had the best tech all along and didn't share it with anyone because it was in the script.
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PringleCreamEgg posted:The council races were also in a bit of a dark age because they were still recovering from the Rachni Wars that lead into the Krogan Rebellions, and the whole Geth problem. The Rachni Wars were from around 30 AD to 300 AD, and the Krogan Rebellions were from the 8th to 9th centuries. That's plenty of time to recover. The geth rebellion was in the 1910s, but I think it hurt the quarians most. On a similar topic: Sovereign got the rachni indoctrinated and tried to use them to get access to the Citadel, meaning that the Reapers were supposed to be a-reapin' 2000 years before they actually started, right? That would take centuries, but humanity and a bunch of other species would probably not achieve a Reaper-worthy level of technology before they went back to dark space. So that gives them tens of millennia to develop until the next cycle, possibly building off the extinguished races and learning what was coming- the Protheans nearly had it figured out, after all. It seems like the cycles would need to be more frequent to avoid this scenario. Forgive me if I've forgotten anything big, it's been almost half a decade since I played Mass Effect.
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PringleCreamEgg posted:Remember that the reason humanity came up onto the scene so quickly was because the Prothean ruins found on mars were super advanced and complete compared to what the rest of the civilizations were finding, according to the codex from the first game. The council races were also in a bit of a dark age because they were still recovering from the Rachni Wars that lead into the Krogan Rebellions, and the whole Geth problem. The council had lost a ton of territory, and humanity happened to come at exactly the right time out of nowhere with comparable tech to what everyone else had been finding bits and pieces of for thousands of years or something. The codex had the asari as the most "advanced" since ME1. Which was weird, since they've got a pretty stagnant society where people spend their first century stripping or merc-ing, and they're right next to the salarians, who do everything like they're running out of time, and tend to be the galaxy's go-to for geniuses. Their archive works alright as an explanation, and the asari not jumping forward probably comes from them being kind of lazy and not wanting to reveal their whole violation of citadel law bit.
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chiasaur11 posted:The codex had the asari as the most "advanced" since ME1. Which was weird, since they've got a pretty stagnant society where people spend their first century stripping or merc-ing chiasaur11 posted:Their archive works alright as an explanation, and the asari not jumping forward probably comes from them being kind of lazy and not wanting to reveal their whole violation of citadel law bit. The Asari were given a modern car when the rest of the galaxy was still experimenting with bolting steam engines to carriages. Because the Asari never built their own cars, they haven't the slightest idea how they work beyond the most basic principles, and lack the understanding required to advance further. Basically the Adeptus Mechanicus, but with less skulls and cybertentacles, and thus strictly worse. tl;dr The Asari are a trash species.
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do u think this game will have a dumb moment where shepherd comes up on a recording and u can design what she looks like and then she says sumthin for 2 mins and then is never shown again?
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Trying to make sense of the Mass Effect lore is a fools errand. It's just KOTOR with the serial numbers filed off, with a bit of Star Trek thrown in. Don't try to analyse the technological history of the sexy blue space babes./
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marktheando posted:Trying to make sense of the Mass Effect lore is a fools errand. It's just KOTOR with the serial numbers filed off, with a bit of Star Trek thrown in. It's better than page after page of complaining about the ME3 ending.
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marktheando posted:Don't try to analyse the technological history of the sexy blue space babes./ It's almost text though, there's virtually no analysis required. If you take Javik to Thessia pretty much all he talks about is how the Asari would have been nothing without the Protheans. Taking Javik to Thessia is up there with taking Legion to Tali's Loyalty Mission as things everyone should do at some point. Doctor Spaceman fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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I wish we could play as Dad Ryder. He looks like a badass.
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DoctorGonzo posted:I wish we could play as Dad Ryder. He looks like a badass. Just name your character "Dad".
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