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Neon Noodle posted:JFC how many of us in the U.S. have relatives who lied about their age to enlist during WW2? Lots. my grandma's older brother was a conscientious objector in wwii
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Bubonic Plagiarist posted:It seems unfair to normal communists who like the Soviet Union and don't have brain problems to call her a tankie. That whole red kahina crew aren't bad because of their opinions on the Hungarian revolution, they're bad because they're pizzagate-level paranoid conspiracy theorists. Left-sympathizing and socialist Westerners need to get over the pastel fetishization of the Soviet Union like yesterday.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Bonus, until I was 12, I was legally UNNAMED MALE $LASTNAME and had no social security number because then the state couldn't draft me. I got thrown out of private school (for being a poo poo) and also because my dad didn't pay his contracted half of tuition, so the school sued my mom. As a result of both of the above, I couldn't get financial aid to go to school and ended up joining the military. wasn't this raiden's backstory in mgs2?
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Bubonic Plagiarist posted:It seems unfair to normal communists who like the Soviet Union and don't have brain problems to call her a tankie. That whole red kahina crew aren't bad because of their opinions on the Hungarian revolution, they're bad because they're pizzagate-level paranoid conspiracy theorists. The Venn diagram of people who believe "Stalin did nothing wrong " and "right wing dictators are actually cool and good (as long as they're a thorn in US foreign policy) and revolutionary communists who are actively fighting them are actually bad" is shockingly close to a circle. You're not libeling very many innocent Stalinists (lol) at all by painting Red Kahina with the tankie brush. I guess I could be wrong and just don't go to the right parts of the internet to see them. But the other side of that coin is that "communists who like the Soviet Union" aren't all Stalin apologists, either. Theris fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Crisco Kid posted:Left-sympathizing and socialist Westerners need to get over the pastel fetishization of the Soviet Union like yesterday. It would be really stupid to revive that just because capitalism sucks. P. S. Just look what happened to Noam Chomsky and the Khmer Rouge, he never lived that down. Neon Noodle fucked around with this message at 04:45 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Neon Noodle posted:Yeah. This was already an issue in the 30s through the 50s, there were a fair number of American leftist intellectuals who believed that Stalin was in fact good and that the bad news from behind the iron curtain was just US propaganda. Right now, there are people in their 30s who personally experienced some horrendous, horrendous poo poo under Soviet rule. This is not ancient history. And now that we've got streaming services and widespread internet, we can hear it directly from the people who lived it, so it's doubly insulting when Western/American leftists theorize and talk over them, and sterilize USSR history when the first-person sources are *right there.* There's a reason like 80% of Romanian New Wave films are about trying to navigate the cultural trauma of Ceaușescu's dictatorship. gently caress capitalism? Yeah, I get it. But gently caress Ceaușescu for real.
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Jonas Albrecht posted:I don't think I could fight for anyone who didn't want me to jerk off. Why is that anyway? Is it for religious reasons? Do people in the YPG even practice religion? Ron Jeremy posted:Bonus, until I was 12, I was legally UNNAMED MALE $LASTNAME and had no social security number because then the state couldn't draft me. I got thrown out of private school (for being a poo poo) and also because my dad didn't pay his contracted half of tuition, so the school sued my mom. As a result of both of the above, I couldn't get financial aid to go to school and ended up joining the military. 
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When I was only a small boy growing up under the iron boot of communism the tankie doctors liquidated my brain. They told me I had "Kulak Cranium" and that the state needed to requisition the grain I was hoarding in there. Please do not erase me or my experience.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:wasn't this raiden's backstory in mgs2? Nah, he was a child soldier in the Liberian civil wars. Which is another fun and often overlooked result of American Imperialism! AMA about how Firestone helped support pre-pubescent rape gangs!
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Why is that anyway? Is it for religious reasons? Do people in the YPG even practice religion? They need to maintain their Guerrilla Mindset, obviously.
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Theris posted:The Venn diagram of people who believe "Stalin did nothing wrong " and "right wing dictators are actually cool and good (as long as they're a thorn in US foreign policy) and revolutionary communists who are actively fighting them are actually bad" is shockingly close to a circle. You're not libeling very many innocent Stalinists (lol) at all by painting Red Kahina with the tankie brush. Horseshoe theory
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cat doter posted:is this thing with red kahina flipping out over ppg like a communism dick waving contest or something? it's almost like she's offended that someone is challenging her crown of queen of twitter communists or something My understanding is that Red Kahina is a "hardcore" "Marxist" who is a pro advocate for Stalinist Russia and anyone who advocates for something beyond/not-related to classical Stalinist Communist USSR is a Traitor to the cause and COINTELPRO. Coincidentally they are also the inheritor of the fortune of the man responsible for Playboy TV and grew up in a wealthy and privileged family. Which is not to say that people from Privileged or the Middle Class can't advocate for the Left, but rather she is at best an extremist who hurts the message of the Left in America and at worst is a literally schizo person who has nothing worthwhile to add to the political discourse and should actually be seeking medical attention.
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I went to the chapo subreddit and there is a tankie going crazy in the comments on the PPG Rolling Stone article, there is no way this isn't Red Kahina. Scroll down to the bad comments. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChapoTrapHouse/comments/5u0qy9/pisspiggranddads_rolling_stone_story_is_online_now/ Sandweed fucked around with this message at 10:14 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Greatbacon posted:at worst is a literally schizo person who has nothing worthwhile to add to the political discourse and should actually be seeking medical attention. that's like 80-85% of the left in america though
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Greatbacon posted:My understanding is that Red Kahina is a "hardcore" "Marxist" who is a pro advocate for Stalinist Russia and anyone who advocates for something beyond/not-related to classical Stalinist Communist USSR is a Traitor to the cause and COINTELPRO. Coincidentally they are also the inheritor of the fortune of the man responsible for Playboy TV and grew up in a wealthy and privileged family. Which is not to say that people from Privileged or the Middle Class can't advocate for the Left, but rather she is at best an extremist who hurts the message of the Left in America and at worst is a literally schizo person who has nothing worthwhile to add to the political discourse and should actually be seeking medical attention. well I mean I get all that it just seems like the subtext of what she's doing is more NO I'M THE ONLY REAL COMMUNIST like some left twitter version of no true scotsman
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Crisco Kid posted:Right now, there are people in their 30s who personally experienced some horrendous, horrendous poo poo under Soviet rule. This is not ancient history. And now that we've got streaming services and widespread internet, we can hear it directly from the people who lived it, so it's doubly insulting when Western/American leftists theorize and talk over them, and sterilize USSR history when the first-person sources are *right there.* They're not going to be around as long as you think thanks to the 10 year drop in life expectancy after 1991. Also you can use that technology to learn about how America stole an election so the Communist candidate wouldn't win and how Yelstin shelled Russian Parliament. I thought this was a great return to form and Felix talking about his life and gaming is really great. It is a big difference from the "duck hunts" in earlier episodes to actually not trying to get people mad at them now.
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cat doter posted:well I mean I get all that it just seems like the subtext of what she's doing is more NO I'M THE ONLY REAL COMMUNIST like some left twitter version of no true scotsman People's Front of Judea.
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manyak posted:Has she ever addressed the fact that shes a multimillionaire trust fund heiress from Porno? People always make fun of her for it but ive never seen her respond to it, it makes it really funny that her line of attack against ppg is that hes secretly rich
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Does anyone remember the Ukraine episode where the middle break had a sound bite from some guy who kept saying "Mr. Obama, my friend, Mr. President, how dare you invite clock boy to the White House and disrespect our veterans?" The episode also ended with the same person charging people on the internet who asked to pick his brain. Who is this guy?
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oatgan posted:She refers to it as a kahina birther movement and claims it was started by Slavoj Zizek instructing people to discredit her Wait, really? Uhh
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MooselanderII posted:Does anyone remember the Ukraine episode where the middle break had a sound bite from some guy who kept saying "Mr. Obama, my friend, Mr. President, how dare you invite clock boy to the White House and disrespect our veterans?" The episode also ended with the same person charging people on the internet who asked to pick his brain. Who is this guy? Sounds like a Trotskyite
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The Narrator posted:Wait, really? Uhh considering that and some of the poo poo they're posting on twitter at the moment, looks like they're loving schizophrenic or something
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Greatbacon posted:she is at best an extremist who hurts the message of the Left in America and at worst is a literally schizo person who has nothing worthwhile to add to the political discourse and should actually be seeking medical attention. The left in America might not be the strongest it's ever been, but I doubt it's weak enough to be hurt in any meaningful way by red kahina's tweets
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The only people who know about her are people who know enough to know she's nuts or are nuts themselves. She is not a public persona that everyone is aware of.
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Sebadoh Gigante posted:Sounds like a Trotskyite lol
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:To even know that Red Kahaina exists is basically like 'Gean Bean' levels of knowing too much about obscure twitter goofs yea Red Kahaina is annoying and stupid but she can't hurt leftism as a whole when 99.99999% of people respond to 'man did you see the last Red Kahaina tweets' with 'literally who is that'
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*me, trying to subtly pass out union cards at a factory in Indiana* Big Blue Collar Machinist (3 kids): Hey, who invited Red Kahina? *whole shop floor rolls with laughter, I slink away, defeated*
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I once tried to convince an elderly former mine worker in a minimum wage job to supplement his social security that labor has inherent value and workers are the true power behind a company's success and he just said "thanks for the hot take, Red Kahina" as I fled in shame.
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Every morning I open palm slap unlock my phone and go to the twitter app. I get to Red Kahaina's feed and start doing the Praxis along with her posts
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Sandweed posted:I went to the chapo subreddit and there is a tankie going crazy in the comments on the PPG Rolling Stone article, there is no way this isn't Red Kahina. This is the only post I see that's in the negatives: quote:I think this is a really really loving dumb idea, the dude does not seem to take it as seriously as he should, and I don't see this ending any other way than in tragedy. Getting cool points with your socialist friends is one thing but this just seems reckless and borderline suicidal to me. The way he excitedly relayed the story of the other soldier telling him that war was just like a video game made my stomach drop. This seems like a pretty reasonable take. e: oh I see, there's hidden comments below AndrewP fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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