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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Furnaceface posted:

That took Dollar Bill Wirtz literally dying to change for Chicago though.

A valuable lesson for everything, kill your elders so they stop loving up the planet you just inherited.

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El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
I think I scoffed when the concept of the Players' Tribune was announced but I'm glad it exists.

Shawn Cotureier
Jan 21, 2009

Still better than Umberger
The storied rivalry between Connor McDavid and Brandon Manning gets renewed tonight

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Shawn Cotureier posted:

The storied rivalry between Connor McDavid and Brandon Manning gets renewed tonight

FAS nods to each other as McDavid is held goalless even though Philly gets shitcanned 5-1.

Brodeurs Nanny
Nov 2, 2006

When do we get the Deadline Xtreme thread?

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Infidel Castro posted:

FAS nods to each other as McDavid is held goalless even though Philly gets shitcanned 5-1.

ayyyyyyyyyyup

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Flames signed Mark Bartkowski to a 2 way deal, I'm hoping it's as insurance policy so they can trade Wideman and call up Andersson or Kylington.

gently caress Dennis Wideman.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Flames signed Mark Bartkowski to a 2 way deal, I'm hoping it's as insurance policy so they can trade Wideman and call up Andersson or Kylington.

gently caress Dennis Wideman.

Don't hold your breath. Matt Bartkowski is so terrible that you couldn't even remember his name.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Jamwad Hilder posted:

Don't hold your breath. Matt Bartkowski is so terrible that you couldn't even remember his name.

I'm aware he stinks but if signing him helps them jettison Wideman it's a good move. That said Wideman's been so atrocious in the limited action I've seen the Flames in this year, I'd be shocked if we got anything other than future considerations.

I'd still take that, though. Between what he did to that ref and how poor his play's been the last 2 seasons, I'm more than ready to see him loving gone. Somebody on the Flames FB page suggested it's a pickup to allow them to protect players they like and unprotect him, that'd be okay too.

El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Feb 16, 2017

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Bartkowski is the worst defenceman I've ever had the pleasure of watching play live and I've been to several ECHL games.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


ThinkTank posted:

Bartkowski is the worst defenceman I've ever had the pleasure of watching play live and I've been to several ECHL games.

we have this Andrew MacDonald

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

ThinkTank posted:

Bartkowski is the worst defenceman I've ever had the pleasure of watching play live and I've been to several ECHL games.

Also, you've seen Luca Sbisa

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

El Gallinero Gros posted:

Also, you've seen Luca Sbisa

Remarkably, Bartkowski was far worse than Sbisa ever was but the one good thing I can say about him was that he wasn't hideously overpaid as well.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Bartkowski is, on a good day, a viable 7th defenseman. That is the nicest thing I'll say about him.

I remember he got in a fight with Foligno when he was on the Bruins (not even the good Foligno) and he got his rear end beat.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

ThinkTank posted:

Remarkably, Bartkowski was far worse than Sbisa ever was but the one good thing I can say about him was that he wasn't hideously overpaid as well.

I think that's how I'm viewing this as well, Wideman makes 5.25 M, which is considerably more than TJ Brodie, which is a crime.

Flames got a lot of work to do in the offseason. Hopefully one of their young D-men is ready and they can sign a guy.

Also, have you guys seen this https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

ThinkTank posted:

Bartkowski is the worst defenceman I've ever had the pleasure of watching play live and I've been to several ECHL games.

Let me introduce you to Dalton Prout.

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007



ooooh this is fun

Turbo Jesus
Mar 17, 2007

Pop that tarp off.

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I think that's how I'm viewing this as well, Wideman makes 5.25 M, which is considerably more than TJ Brodie, which is a crime.

Flames got a lot of work to do in the offseason. Hopefully one of their young D-men is ready and they can sign a guy.

Also, have you guys seen this https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

Since Anaheim was first on the list I couldn't but help notice Simon Despres on the list, man oh man poor guy. When the team that traded to you ends up with Ben Lovejoy and wins that trade you gotta feel bad.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Turbo Jesus posted:

Since Anaheim was first on the list I couldn't but help notice Simon Despres on the list, man oh man poor guy. When the team that traded to you ends up with Ben Lovejoy and wins that trade you gotta feel bad.

It sucks for the Ducks but at least he got a decent payday before apparently having his career ended by concussions.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Remember when the Flames signed Wideman and the headline was "Wide Man Signs Wideman"?

Good times.

Technetium
Oct 26, 2006

TRILOBITE TECHNICIAN
QUITE POSSIBLY GAY

ThinkTank posted:

Bartkowski is the worst defenceman I've ever had the pleasure of watching play live and I've been to several ECHL games.

Roman Polak enters the ring

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
Speaking of the fat man - Jankowski is having a pretty good first pro season, with 31 in 40 (after a faster start he's slowed down a bit). He's not gonna be viewed as the best player in the 2012 draft in 2022, but he certainly isn't looking like too bad of a pick for where they got him, and the slow entry to the league should at least make him cap friendly as a productive NHLer. That draft was pretty bad for forwards.

It's not a bad strategy to take late bloomers / committed college guys after the "sure thing" top ~10, but it's pretty risky for a GM who can't count on being there four or five years down the road when the picks pay dividends.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Jordan7hm posted:

Speaking of the fat man - Jankowski is having a pretty good first pro season, with 31 in 40 (after a faster start he's slowed down a bit). He's not gonna be viewed as the best player in the 2012 draft in 2022, but he certainly isn't looking like too bad of a pick for where they got him, and the slow entry to the league should at least make him cap friendly as a productive NHLer. That draft was pretty bad for forwards.

It's not a bad strategy to take late bloomers / committed college guys after the "sure thing" top ~10, but it's pretty risky for a GM who can't count on being there four or five years down the road when the picks pay dividends.

It's his draft +5 season, if he's not contributing meaningfully on a professional roster by now he never will. Even Brendan Gaunce (he of 1 goal in 68 NHL games) had 38pts in 46 AHL games last year.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/DimFilipovic/status/832029994322849792

That in response to apparently what was thought to be a dive by McElhinney last night. Social media is having fun with it. :allears:

El Gallinero Gros posted:

I think that's how I'm viewing this as well, Wideman makes 5.25 M, which is considerably more than TJ Brodie, which is a crime.

Flames got a lot of work to do in the offseason. Hopefully one of their young D-men is ready and they can sign a guy.

Also, have you guys seen this https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft

It's really fun, but it doesn't simulate if an exempt player waives his NMC like Clarkson is expected to.

Saad, Dubinsky, Foligno, Hartnell, Atkinson, Jenner, Wennberg; Jones, Savard, Murray or JMFJ, Bob

Thufir
May 19, 2004

"The fucking Mayans were right."

CBJSprague24 posted:


It's really fun, but it doesn't simulate if an exempt player waives his NMC like Clarkson is expected to.

Saad, Dubinsky, Foligno, Hartnell, Atkinson, Jenner, Wennberg; Jones, Savard, Murray or JMFJ, Bob

I think you can uncheck NMC players and unprotect them.

edit: Oh, not injured players though.

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009

So apparently according to Friedman the pens may be in on duchene or landeskog and may send maatta back? I'm not sure how I feel about adding that kind of cap hit, but with how hurt our forwards are i can see why jr may be kicking tires. I also wonder about shattenkirk too, but I dunno if the pens would target him.

To be honest I can see the pens having a slow deadline, they kept everyone from last year and don't really have cap space.

E: and lol if you don't think that JR won't buy out MAF if it comes down to it

Scaramouche
Mar 26, 2001

SPACE FACE! SPACE FACE!

fits posted:

corey hirsch wrote a thing about his mental health struggles

:smith:

That was really hard to read

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009

Scaramouche posted:

That was really hard to read

Meant to say something about this too... it was a really rough read but I'm glad he's speaking out about it and I hope it helps foster a more open culture of dealing with mental illness. It's just so important to destigmatize it so people will be willing to get the care they need.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Look Around You posted:

So apparently according to Friedman the pens may be in on duchene or landeskog and may send maatta back? I'm not sure how I feel about adding that kind of cap hit, but with how hurt our forwards are i can see why jr may be kicking tires. I also wonder about shattenkirk too, but I dunno if the pens would target him.

To be honest I can see the pens having a slow deadline, they kept everyone from last year and don't really have cap space.

E: and lol if you don't think that JR won't buy out MAF if it comes down to it

JR isn't afraid to make big trades so I wouldn't be surprised. What's more questionable to me is whether the Avs would accept a trade from the Pens. Surely another team can offer better than Maatta + first or whatever.

It would own all the bones to have Duchene though. They could use him on wing this year and then let Bones go in the off season depending on what he wants and use Duchene as 3c instead. He'd be so perfect for our tard hockey skating system too.

e: Lando would be fine too but Duchene is more intriguing for me

T-Bone
Sep 14, 2004

jakes did this?
Couldn't the Pens pretty easily afford either of them with Kunitz/MAF coming out? They could probably still fit Schultz in, too. I mean Maatta/1st is poo poo value but it's Colorado so

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

ThinkTank posted:

It's his draft +5 season, if he's not contributing meaningfully on a professional roster by now he never will. Even Brendan Gaunce (he of 1 goal in 68 NHL games) had 38pts in 46 AHL games last year.

I'm not sure I buy this. Jankowski is contributing meaningfully on a pro roster right now. He's currently the leading scorer on his AHL team.

The advantage of taking the college guys is that they don't get the stink of failure on them before their first real kick at the can in the NHL. Other guys who were in similar situations: Anders Lee, Chris Kunitz, RJ Umberger, and many others.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

fits posted:

corey hirsch wrote a thing about his mental health struggles

:smith:

finally got around to reading this. i don't have anything to say that hasn't been said...but wow. that was a very vivid story. they really get across the sheer bewilderment of his problem, and you can really feel the relief when he finally gets a diagnosis.

Ginette Reno posted:

JR isn't afraid to make big trades so I wouldn't be surprised. What's more questionable to me is whether the Avs would accept a trade from the Pens. Surely another team can offer better than Maatta + first or whatever.

It would own all the bones to have Duchene though. They could use him on wing this year and then let Bones go in the off season depending on what he wants and use Duchene as 3c instead. He'd be so perfect for our tard hockey skating system too.

e: Lando would be fine too but Duchene is more intriguing for me

i'd like rutherford to trade for duchene because i don't like the idea of counting on bonino magically finding his game just in time for the playoffs - being able to roll 3 scoring lines lines was so crucial for the penguins, and what team could possibly match up with 3 1st line centers (plus cullen, who's pretty much a 3C)? with that kind of center depth, plus the wingers the penguins have now, i feel like the defense almost wouldn't even matter.

granted, what the penguins could offer the avalanche for duchene that they'd actually take is a mystery, because most deals i can think of don't make sense for the avs, but apparently it's a rumor with some traction lately

Fateo McMurray
Mar 22, 2003

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCfnhjoMtpU

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

T-Bone posted:

Couldn't the Pens pretty easily afford either of them with Kunitz/MAF coming out? They could probably still fit Schultz in, too. I mean Maatta/1st is poo poo value but it's Colorado so

Yes. Bonino, Cullen, and Kunitz, and Daley are all coming off the books. That leaves 11 mil in cap space. That's to say nothing of presumably shipping out Maf as well.

The issue is having to pay Schultz. Prospects-wise Cullen should be replaceable by Sundqvist who is having a fantastic season in the AHL, and Kuhnhackl has been mostly a healthy scratch this year but is capable of playing fourth line minutes and doing okay. So the Pens won't necessarily go out and have to spend a lot of money to bring in replacements.

e: They may lose an additional 4 million from Vegas claiming Hagelin as well.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Man, Nashville's pretty much guaranteed to lose either Arvidsson or Åberg. That loving sucks.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Infidel Castro posted:

Man, Nashville's pretty much guaranteed to lose either Arvidsson or Åberg. That loving sucks.

I think Nashville is much more likely to protect Arvidsson and lose one of Neal, Smith, or Wilson, assuming they protect 4 D. Depends on the contract discussions with Arvidsson.

Stretch Marx
Apr 29, 2008

I'm ok with this.
I know this isn't NHL related but I still think people should see this just for the :lol:

Strome scores with an opponent's stick.

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER
To summarize: jankowski rules, wideman is maybe the worst skater in today's NHL, Feaster was a genius who was fat

Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
I don't want the Penguins to trade Maatta (or any roster defenseman) at this point without getting another in return because I don't think I can handle Chad Ruhwedel: playoff regular.

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Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa

mennoknight posted:

To summarize: jankowski rules, wideman is maybe the worst skater in today's NHL, Feaster was a genius who was fat

Wrong, maybe, wrong

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