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dissss posted:Well it's dying later in the year. International markets 
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dissss posted:Well it's dying later in the year. For regions that sell both, it usually breaks down like this: i20 = Supermini Accent = Subcompact Elantra = Cheaper Compact i30 = Compact Sonata = Cheaper Midsize i40 = Midsize In the Korean market, most taxis are Elantras or Sonatas, so people will naturally buy the i30 / i40 to not look like a taxi.
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Feb 15, 2017 19:40
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Proud Christian Mom posted:and theyll still be special ordered in either white or silver I bet It's volvo's fault for offering 7 different shades of white/black/grey
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Feb 15, 2017 19:41
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Volvo's Seven Shades of Grey
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Feb 15, 2017 20:17
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Rigged Death Trap posted:International markets In Europe they only sell the iXX line at this point
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Feb 15, 2017 20:45
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FuturePastNow posted:Volvo's Seven Shades of Grey Well after all it's the swedes choice of colour because "The dirt doesn't show as much  ".
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Feb 15, 2017 22:03
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I seriously can't figure this out, so somebody please tell me, why the hell PSA is trying to buy Opel/Vauxhall?
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Feb 16, 2017 23:31
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Q_res posted:I seriously can't figure this out, so somebody please tell me, why the hell PSA is trying to buy Opel/Vauxhall? They're making money again and something must be done about it.
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Feb 16, 2017 23:32
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Q_res posted:I seriously can't figure this out, so somebody please tell me, why the hell PSA is trying to buy Opel/Vauxhall? Makes them the second largest car maker in the EU market, gives them tons of government contracts for things like police cars and rental cars. Other than that not entirely sure since if you offered me a Peugeot or a Vauxhall as the only things available to drive I would walk.
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Feb 17, 2017 02:28
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Q_res posted:I seriously can't figure this out, so somebody please tell me, why the hell PSA is trying to buy Opel/Vauxhall? A non-french badge in non-french markets.
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Feb 17, 2017 02:34
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Q_res posted:I seriously can't figure this out, so somebody please tell me, why the hell PSA is trying to buy Opel/Vauxhall? PSA needs to do something because alone they are too small to have the scale needed for long term viability, and likely has some backing in terms of capital from the French state, since they are a national champion of sorts in France. GM already tried to get rid of Opel Vauxhall in 2009 but failed, they're trying harder this time and making it more attractive presumably. Opel Vauxhall is a perennial money loser because there just aren't any profits to be had in small cheap cars in Europe and GM get's a better return on its investment from more tape and stripe special edition 3/4t Silverados. http://www.autonews.com/article/20170214/OEM02/170219914/barras-move-to-sell-opel-signals-deeper-change-at-gm All future GM small cars will likely come from China.
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Feb 17, 2017 03:17
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This is terrible what will happen to the opel gt concept?!?!
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Feb 17, 2017 06:02
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LOL GM is gonna screw Holden yet again if this happens.
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Feb 17, 2017 08:38
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BigPaddy posted:Makes them the second largest car maker in the EU market, gives them tons of government contracts for things like police cars and rental cars. Other than that not entirely sure since if you offered me a Peugeot or a Vauxhall as the only things available to drive I would walk. Have you driven any of the newer Peugeots?
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Feb 17, 2017 11:21
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Deteriorata posted:They're making money again and something must be done about it. Mazda has this same problem sometimes, and when they do they poo poo out another
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Feb 17, 2017 11:58
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KozmoNaut posted:Have you driven any of the newer Peugeots? Fair question, last one I drove was a 208 and a C5 a few years back.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:56
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I daily drive a Fiesta and I'd take a 208 over a Fiesta 7 days a week, if it wasn't for the completely retarded instrument pod/steering wheel combo in the Pug making it impossible for me to see anything of the gauges at all if I want to sit somewhat comfortable.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:03
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What's wrong with the current Opels? I thought the Astra was a pretty good little car
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Feb 17, 2017 21:23
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Much like Peugeot(sorry kozmonaut), they don't really stand out in any way, and are mostly associated with fleet sales IMO. KIA/Hyundai has better warranties and has probably stolen a lot of potential Opel customers. VAG has more and possibly more modern driveline and engine options. Fords have been more fun to drive. The Japanese has their reputation for reliability. Its not like they are significantly cheaper than their midfield competition either. The Astra may be good, but its segment is extremely competitive I guess a loss of customers have forced them to commit heavily to fleet sales, and people only experiencing them as rentals isn't helping their stodgy image, further leading them to unprofitable fleet sales.
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Feb 18, 2017 00:32
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I saw an S90 in person today, they look even better in person than in photos.
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Feb 18, 2017 01:19
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I saw an S90 in person today, they look even better in person than in photos. I thought Chevy dropped out of Europистан, so if Peugeot buys Opel/Vauxhall then is GM just hightailin outta the place or what? Friar Zucchini fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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Feb 18, 2017 06:13
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I saw one of the new Continentals yesterday; looks very much what it is.
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Feb 18, 2017 07:14
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BloodBag posted:Mazda has this same problem sometimes, and when they do they poo poo out another I feel like they've almost gone too conservative now - can't even drop AWD and the 2.5t in the 3? It all would fit, and it'd shred. That said, they're knocking their normal models out of the park, are bringing the diesel over, and the RF at least was a surprise so here's hoping for some Mazdaspeed jams soon. Oh, and loving Carplay.
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Feb 18, 2017 07:59
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I saw one of the new Continentals yesterday; looks very much what it is. This can go both good and bad (probably meant to). Do we finally have a new luxo-yacht that isn't an SUV?
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Feb 18, 2017 09:17
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DEUCE SLUICE posted:I feel like they've almost gone too conservative now - can't even drop AWD and the 2.5t in the 3? It all would fit, and it'd shred. Man, I've been moaning on that they couldn't be bothered to drop the 2.5T into the miata since 2006. They didn't want to unseat the halo car that was the shitwad RX-8  I will say the RF is pretty loving cool looking in person.
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Feb 18, 2017 12:23
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davebo posted:Volvo V90 pricing is out: People should care, because that Volvo interior is one of the very best on the market, certainly at that price.
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Feb 18, 2017 16:09
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Yeah a V90 is seriously on my list of cars to consider next go around.
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Feb 18, 2017 17:38
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As Nero Danced posted:This can go both good and bad (probably meant to). Do we finally have a new luxo-yacht that isn't an SUV? Looks, comfy, composed and not at all "sporty". I'd love one for commuting and highway cruising. 
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Feb 18, 2017 18:32
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As Nero Danced posted:This can go both good and bad (probably meant to). Do we finally have a new luxo-yacht that isn't an SUV? It's easily the most swanky and plush interior I've ever seen short of a Maybach, Rolls Royce, or Bentley. The one that I sat in had the 30 way adjustable drivers seat and the Revel 19 speaker stereo system. I'll say this, the seat was like sitting on a cloud that hugged you and whispered sweet nothings into your ear; and the stereo easily rivaled my $10k home theater setup in terms of imaging and fidelity. It was a good thing my wife wasn't with me when I was looking at it or I have a feeling she would have been driving it home.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I saw one of the new Continentals yesterday; looks very much what it is.
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Feb 18, 2017 21:45
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Is the Chicago auto show worth going to?
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Feb 18, 2017 21:53
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I'll say no, doesn't seem like any of the automakers save any announcements or products of note for the CAS. Feels like being paid to be advertised to. I could be wrong though!
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Feb 18, 2017 21:59
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Residency Evil posted:Is the Chicago auto show worth going to? I haven't gone for a few years. It's advertised as "THE COUNTRY'S BIGGEST!" and it is big as hell, but all the fun reveals and poo poo usually happen in Detroit so there's not really a lot of fun stuff. The Viper was unlocked one year a few years back and that was pretty cool, but it's just not special enough for me to make the trip downtown anymore.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:07
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Residency Evil posted:Is the Chicago auto show worth going to? CAS is the truck and SUV show. This year has the Durango SRT, new Expedition and mildly refreshed Sequoia.
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Feb 18, 2017 22:14
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Residency Evil posted:Is the Chicago auto show worth going to? If you want to ogle some halo cars, or hoping to catch a reveal. Meh, I'd pass. If you're looking for a new ride in the near future, than definitely. CAS is very consumer focused, most automakers will bring drat near their entire range, making it easy to compare vehicles without bouncing between tens of different dealerships.
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I went to my local "auto expo" today and the Continental seemed like the nicest thing they had in their luxury section by far. The BMW / Mercedes / Audi stuff was alright, but the leather in most of it felt cheap and stiff. Then again, I sat in a Chevy Sonic and found it to be not unpleasant, so I may not be the best arbiter of high-end cars.
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triple clutcher posted:Then again, I sat in a Chevy Sonic and found it to be not unpleasant, so I may not be the best arbiter of high-end cars. I bleed GM blue, but the Sonic is a hateful little piece of poo poo that should have never left the third world. Get a Fiesta instead. Get a Fiesta ST instead. 
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I recently did someone else a favor and dropped their Nissan off at the dealers for them. I felt a mixture of surprise and disappointment when I looked around the place and realized that there was nothing there I would want to spend my own money on. I suppose I'd hardly say "no" if someone gave me a free Maxima or GTR, but my own money? No way.
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Feb 19, 2017 03:34
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Wistful of Dollars posted:I recently did someone else a favor and dropped their Nissan off at the dealers for them. I felt a mixture of surprise and disappointment when I looked around the place and realized that there was nothing there I would want to spend my own money on. That was me today at the Pittsburgh auto show. The singular car I was interested in, the Focus RS, was a no show. Hundreds of cars and, hold a gun to my head and told I had to buy one with my own money, I would have to have a hard long think. The most exciting thing I saw was that the BRZ got audio controls on the steering wheel now which makes me want to trade mine in. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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bull3964 posted:That was me today at the Pittsburgh auto show. The singular car I was interested in, the Focus RS, was a no show. Hundreds of cars and, hold a gun to my head and told I had to buy one with my own money, I would have to have a hard long think. It seriously didn't come with that before?? Wow... that's.. weird.
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