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imo, a general stike is supposed to be a huge nationwide event that lasts for months trying to organize this poo poo in less that 3 weeks is a joke, hell organizing in in 3 months is a joke. It sounds like something you organize over the course of years as a capstone to a huge power shift. had ed balls written anything about strike organization?
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 03:20 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 03:14 |
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Agean90 posted:imo, a general stike is supposed to be a huge nationwide event that lasts for months trying to organize this poo poo in less that 3 weeks is a joke, hell organizing in in 3 months is a joke. It sounds like something you organize over the course of years as a capstone to a huge power shift. this is not a real strike or a real anything other than a day off. they should have organized a boycott, this isn't labor organization
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 04:55 |
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it actually makes me kind of mad if i think about it because it's putting vulnerable people at risk of losing their livelihood with no union or organized labor backing them or supporting them in any way. like are people planning on picketing their jobs for the day? is there any point in a 24 hour strike with no demands? maybe a boycott would be a safer way for people to exercise their economic voice without putting impressionable people at risk of losing their job at gamestop because they thought it would be a good idea to wildcat strike because someone said something on twitter
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:00 |
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Imho a general strike is supposed to be the keystone of a syndicalist transition to socialism. It should probably take a bit longer than a long weekend to achieve but what do I know?
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:02 |
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for what its worth i've only seen it get mentioned on leftist twitter, chances are it'll fizzle anywhere out side of that particular clique. A boycott is deffo more effective, since it seemed to gently caress over uber pretty effectivly.
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:03 |
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My take is that...the strike is not going to happen and if it does it will just be professional class people and retirees taking personal days and doing a lovely march with signs about DRUMPF
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:11 |
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i hope it doesn't gain any traction because if you're outside one of those professional classes you're opening yourself up to a big possibility of retaliation with no recourse. like what happens when you called in sick and your boss sees your dumb rear end with a pussyhat and a sign on the news?
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# ? Feb 7, 2017 05:12 |
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A general strike doesn't mean anything if nobody's working.
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# ? Feb 8, 2017 01:07 |
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Peanut President posted:A general strike doesn't mean anything if nobody's working. Right the professional protest class aren't otherwise employed, nobody's going to notice the "strike" because the adults are all busy working
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 01:25 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:The clearest illustration of the fact that this "general strike" is a laughable charade put on by liberal opportunists who have never participated in any sort of labor action before is the fact that they've got Trump's tax returns on there as a demand but nothing about wages, working conditions, etc. The sentiment would be noble, if it weren't so obviously exploitative.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 04:22 |
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is the strike still on?
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 15:17 |
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jarofpiss posted:it actually makes me kind of mad if i think about it because it's putting vulnerable people at risk of losing their livelihood with no union or organized labor backing them or supporting them in any way. like are people planning on picketing their jobs for the day? is there any point in a 24 hour strike with no demands? maybe a boycott would be a safer way for people to exercise their economic voice without putting impressionable people at risk of losing their job at gamestop because they thought it would be a good idea to wildcat strike because someone said something on twitter The thing that really bugs me about it is that this one day general strike is on a loving Friday so the olds can just write it off as Millenials wanting a three day weekend without thinking about it
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 15:22 |
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Business Gorillas posted:The thing that really bugs me about it is that this one day general strike is on a loving Friday so the olds can just write it off as Millenials wanting a three day weekend without thinking about it the olds are right and it's not a real strike and it's probably gonna get a few noobs fired when it turns out the facebook group won't protect them from getting fired for it. but i also support chaos in the workplace so go nuts i guess.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 15:46 |
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the real power to everyone taking the day off is it shuts down everything everywhere if successful, even for a day. That definitely makes a statement regardless of whether or not you're taking vacation days. So, a general strike on April 1st would still be incredibly effective no matter how it's handled internally as pointed out the real issue is that it's the people without vacation days and in horrible shithole exploitative industries/workplaces that will lose their job and make the situation a million times worse while white collar guys are all "well that worked well and no one suffered because of it, we win " it's something I feel can happen and be very effective but it's difficult to have any sort of credibility saying that when I'm not the one who will get my head shat on so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:18 |
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a general boycott would be more effective, safer for workers, actually make sense, and accomplish the goals of this "strike" this strike thing is a facbook thing that has no serious organized labor participation and is made by people that dont know what the hell organized labor is or does or how to organize beyond making a facebook event. it deserves to be mocked even if the intentions are in the right place.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:25 |
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jarofpiss posted:a general boycott would be more effective, safer for workers, actually make sense, and accomplish the goals of this "strike" right hypothetically speaking it'd have legs but no chance of happening
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:39 |
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Chokes McGee posted:right the boycott or the general strike? Cause a boycott was pretty effective against Uber
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:41 |
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Agean90 posted:the boycott or the general strike? Cause a boycott was pretty effective against Uber strike. I've been on board with the boycott from day one, if nothing else it's made me cook more and stop stuffing my fat fat face with Jimmy John's johnson & johnson was the one that surprised me though
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:43 |
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What would really scare business is if everyone just started passing out union cards at their work.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:48 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:What would really scare business is if everyone just started passing out union cards at their work. so many people fired so many
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:57 |
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jarofpiss posted:a general boycott would be more effective, safer for workers, actually make sense, and accomplish the goals of this "strike" the goal of this strike is to let the world know that a bunch of caremad tryhard lib millennials are mad about trump. Pretty sure we already know that, but the spectacle is probably worth watching, im sure they'll peacefully destroy a bunch of small businesses and innocent garbage cans while accusing everyone else of being fascists
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 16:58 |
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the entire idea of a one day 'general strike' is so completely loving pointless what i would like to see is an actual general strike if (and when) the feds start really going after unions. we should have fuckin done it during the fiasco in Wisconsin, but here we are.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 17:01 |
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:the entire idea of a one day 'general strike' is so completely loving pointless there's less solidarity between Gov unions and private sector unions than you might imagine
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 17:07 |
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Chokes McGee posted:so many people fired yeah but that would actually be legally protected concerted activity (for all the fat loving good that would be), not illegal wildcat/solidarity strikes, and also establish the groundwork for future organizing instead of taking steam out of the movement
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 17:09 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:yeah but that would actually be legally protected concerted activity (for all the fat loving good that would be), not illegal wildcat/solidarity strikes, and also establish the groundwork for future organizing instead of taking steam out of the movement I'm curious what walmart would do if half of thier stateside Wal-Mart's unionized at the same time. would they suck it up or would they cut themselves in half? What about 90%?
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 17:12 |
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gobbagool posted:there's less solidarity between Gov unions and private sector unions than you might imagine I definitely realize it, I deal with it literally every day There's a myriad of highschool-level "drama" between the labor unions. See: the building trades vs basically everyone, Teamsters vs. AFL-CIO, etc etc etc
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 17:20 |
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I will go to work but not do anything, thereby double-sticking it to the man by getting paid to strike. Get on my level.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 17:24 |
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Agean90 posted:I'm curious what walmart would do if half of thier stateside Wal-Mart's unionized at the same time. would they suck it up or would they cut themselves in half? What about 90%? hard to say, but if the labor movement could simultaneously hold elections (and win them) at even 10% of the Walmarts nationwide I would cry tears of joy. it's hard to put into words how difficult that would be this is a really good interview with probably one of the best union organizers alive today: https://www.thenation.com/article/labor-movement-must-learn/ On strikes posted: It means 90 percent or more of the workers walk off the job. If you want to win, we say, you have to create a significant crisis for the employer. A strike where one worker at the fast-food company stands outside for the press conference, surrounded by every liberal clergy member in town and a bunch of great activists who you’ve Facebooked and tweeted, and they showed up because they think it’s morally the right thing to do—which it is—is not a strike. It’s what I call “pretend power.” Fooling ourselves with pretend-power gimmicks has resulted in 32 state legislatures flipping red, 34 Republican governors, and Trump in the White House.
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 17:24 |
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DOCTOR ZIMBARDO posted:What would really scare business is if everyone just started passing out union cards at their work. the more i think about this idea the more i like it. plz signal boost thx
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RENEGADE CUCKSKY posted:I definitely realize it, I deal with it literally every day My union geographically and work-wise overlaps with a splinter union of itself, and they race each other to the bottom competing for jobs!
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 18:05 |
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https://twitter.com/voces_milwaukee/status/831207997804273666
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# ? Feb 13, 2017 19:43 |
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Immigrants plan to walk off their Philly restaurant jobs on Feb. 16quote:“It’s not a strike,” said Carlos Aparicio, who oversees three Philly restaurants and one in DC as corporate chef for the Zavino Restaurant Group. “It’s not coming to work to make an impact and show how important the immigrant community is to the whole country.” "Not a strike" 🤔🤔
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 20:40 |
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Just heard my Mexican co-workers are doing the same thing, which is at least half the stocking staff at the store.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:23 |
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I think the not a strike bit is because they're not picketing the store or anything, which people associate with strikes, just not showing up.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:25 |
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GodFish posted:I think the not a strike bit is because they're not picketing the store or anything, which people associate with strikes, just not showing up. Yeah, it's a walk out. U should join as a show of solidarity
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 21:38 |
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GalacticAcid posted:"Not a strike" I haven't seen any evidence of plans for an actual strike, so that seems accurate. This is just a protest. I mean it seems like a nice protest, but it's not really a strike at all. I would be all over joining an actual strike. No so much a symbolic protest with no actual goals I've been able to discover.
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# ? Feb 14, 2017 22:44 |
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Someone post that uk general strike comic someone made using characters from TinTin.
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# ? Feb 15, 2017 22:12 |
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im gonna go to work today but im showing up drunk in solidarity with all my facebook comrades that are taking a 3 day weekend
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# ? Feb 17, 2017 14:52 |
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jarofpiss posted:im gonna go to work today but im showing up drunk in solidarity with all my facebook comrades that are taking a 3 day weekend ty comrade, i'll drink a michelob ultra (like Stalin with ukraine i am carb-conscious) in your honor
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# ? Feb 17, 2017 19:08 |
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This poo poo was insane and they're gonna keep doing it
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# ? Feb 17, 2017 20:20 |