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Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay
killing a race of people is bad and jokes about it is bad?

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a bone to pick
Sep 14, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Smash it Smash hit posted:

killing a race of people is bad and jokes about it is bad?

Yes.
No.

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

new phone who dis posted:

Becoming the scolding killjoys isn't a good look for progressives and it's hurting the cause more than anything their opponents are doing.
the truth hurts

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Reminder that the UK tried to drop photos of a forged image of Hitler holding his erect cock out in public but cancelled it because they thought it was too barbaric

Chernobyl baby
Jul 19, 2011
Poopeepie is a garbage "comedian" and nobody should watch his content

That said if you let your kid watch pewdiepie and his awkward terrible Nazi jokes turn your baby boy into a Hitler loving skinhead Id blame the parents for raising him to be a racist moron with no critical thinking skills, not the overpaid internet clown

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay
so its good to mock the death and future death of millions?

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay
also its real dumb to bar people from going to another piece of land because of where they were born

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

Smash it Smash hit posted:

killing a race of people is bad and jokes about it is bad?

depends has george carlin ever made this joke

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Smash it Smash hit posted:

so its good to mock the death and future death of millions?

Only if it's funny, otherwise it's boring.

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


I support killing the Jews only if I am the first Jew killed (they don't have to kill the other Jews after me I'll be dead so I won't know!)

revdrkevind
Dec 15, 2013
ASK:lol: ME:lol: ABOUT:lol: MY :lol:TINY :lol:DICK

also my opinion on :females:
:haw::flaccid: :haw: :flaccid: :haw: :flaccid::haw:

Kjoery posted:

"feminists dont understand snow plowing

That was a serious headline. In Sweden women's groups protested that snow plows start clearing out (MALE DOMINATED) business areas first, rather than bike paths and sidewalks. Then the next big snowstorm hit and many people in Sweden were rather unamused.

So like no serious, you're making blanket statements about people with no understanding of what they're saying. JonTron for example is very far from alt-right, but his mom and grandma grew up under communist regimes so he sees what's happening to free speech and the media and he's starting to have some unfortunate associations. Having the media forge fake racist claims to use against a popular media star looks a liiiiitle like Literally The Soviet Union to someone who's had family who lived through it.

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay
well if the people thought it was a bad and boring joke then maybe their outrage is justified? :shrug:

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

Smash it Smash hit posted:

also its real dumb to bar people from going to another piece of land because of where they were born

i agree the travel ban part is loving stupid, it's really loving over the competitive Super Smash Bros Melee scene thanks donald

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

revdrkevind posted:

That was a serious headline. In Sweden women's groups protested that snow plows start clearing out (MALE DOMINATED) business areas first, rather than bike paths and sidewalks. Then the next big snowstorm hit and many people in Sweden were rather unamused.

So like no serious, you're making blanket statements about people with no understanding of what they're saying. JonTron for example is very far from alt-right, but his mom and grandma grew up under communist regimes so he sees what's happening to free speech and the media and he's starting to have some unfortunate associations. Having the media forge fake racist claims to use against a popular media star looks a liiiiitle like Literally The Soviet Union to someone who's had family who lived through it.

they did this around the same period in the United States too

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Smash it Smash hit posted:

well if the people thought it was a bad and boring joke then maybe their outrage is justified? :shrug:

People, especially people in privileged media positions, should probably save their outrage for actually outrageous things to maintain an air of credibility.

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

new phone who dis posted:

People, especially people in privileged media positions, should probably save their outrage for actually outrageous things to maintain an air of credibility.

i think they are more concerned about making money than keeping credibility

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

new phone who dis posted:

People, especially people in privileged media positions, should probably save their outrage for actually outrageous things to maintain an air of credibility.

I've read about people being forced to write opinionated articles per order of the parent companies, but greasing palms will probably always be more important to a journalist than having a righteous viewpoint

Chernobyl baby
Jul 19, 2011
Hey people have been getting murdered by other people for millions of years. Occasionally in larger numbers than the holocaust. Half my family is Jewish and my grandpa told me stories about how lovely his time was in a German prison camp.

I understand very well that he holocaust is a sore spot for people only because of how recent it was, but saying jokes about how it happened or getting angry every time someone makes a joke won't bring the dead back to life. Educating people to not be racist morons and actually holding parents responsible for the things they teach their kids and discussing the media they consume on the other hand will actually prevent future violence and make them want to stand up to fascist ideals

But nah all horrors of the world can be traced back to unfunny internet man Felix you're right

readingatwork
Jan 8, 2009

Hello Fatty!


Fun Shoe
It's absolutely mind boggling how many people don't seem to see how letting a media outlet nakedly slander the most popular person on the internet with faux moral outrage could have negative consequences.

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Smash it Smash hit posted:

i think they are more concerned about making money than keeping credibility

Which is exactly why they are manufacturing hysterical articles against forms of media they see as competitors.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

new phone who dis posted:

The idea of everyone who doesn't bow to the progressive stack being alt-right only plays to a very small segment of the country.

It's also pretty transparent how "alt-right" was intentionally constructed to be a squirrely undefined word that can be used to smear people. It the alt-right:
1) stormfront and the miscellaneous nazi websites that Dylan Roof was reading?
2) the above plus 4chan's /pol/ and r/thedonald?
3) anyone who disagrees with the Blue groupthink du jour?

Don't stand too close to any of those people, you might catch the alt-right cooties!

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

new phone who dis posted:

Which is exactly why they are manufacturing hysterical articles against forms of media they see as competitors.

so video game guy is allowed to make jokes at the expense of millions of dead but the company cant sell papers/ad revenue at the expense of video game guy? :confused:

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Smash it Smash hit posted:

so video game guy is allowed to make jokes at the expense of millions of dead but the company cant sell papers/ad revenue at the expense of video game guy? :confused:

The difference is that the video game guy isn't trying to package it as a noble thing. It's one thing to make an off-color joke in public as an admittedly failed attempt at humor to make money. It's a completely different animal to wrap up your outrage in a cloak of righteous ideology in a quest to undermine your competitors. A comedian telling a bad joke damages his brand, just like a self-serious journalistic outlet damages their own brand by making too big of a deal over it because they feel threatened by him.

Junior Jr.
Oct 4, 2014

by sebmojo
Buglord
The media and youtubers don't get along, actually they never got along...the only time they'll bother joining together is either selling you products or get featured in chat shows or clip shows.

For instance, Jimmy Kimmel made fun of YouTube gaming, as well as making fun of people who watch others play video games. Then a bunch of Twitch and streamer fans got so pissed off with him, Jimmy made another video making fun of their comments...and then just to make some "damage control", they invited Markiplier and some gamer grill (can't be bothered to look her up) to his show and played Rocket League, the whole scenario was awkward as gently caress and no-one bought it.

The point is both parties will never find middle ground, and it's probably best that way...if they tried integrating content creators into mainstream media and make them look normal, it'd be way more damaging and uncomfortable for them.

That being said, I'm glad WSJ took one for the team and hosed PewDiePie and themselves over. The journalistic media exposed themselves for being the money and fame hungry scum that they are, and after this all eventually dies down...Felix will remain a human being but without a show and personal network.

Sweet chaos overall. :cheers:

Junior Jr. fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Feb 17, 2017

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

readingatwork posted:

It's absolutely mind boggling how many people don't seem to see how letting a media outlet nakedly slander the most popular person on the internet with faux moral outrage could have negative consequences.

it's also mind-boggling how the media in question don't see the irony of doing it while at the same time complaining about being under attack by Trump's anti-media accusations

like, if you're gonna write editorial theorizing ways that Trump could use executive power to crush the free press, perhaps you should take the lesson to heart and think twice about using your power to crush the next guy down the line

Chernobyl baby
Jul 19, 2011
The dead don't give a poo poo if you make fun of them

But attacking a loser with a lot of money and braindead fans on the basis of false white supremacist assumptions potentially could push his dullard fans into white supremacy

Reactionary media is the worst thing and the fact that all sides of the political spectrum rely on it makes me hope America will return to some semblance of stability and order after the nuclear fire decimates most of it

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS


this nigga drank the water that made the frogs gay

tao of lmao
Oct 9, 2005

He still has his main channel, and has seen a surge in subscriptions (something like 30k a day) since this news dropped. I think pewds will be fine.

Nucleic Acids
Apr 10, 2007

new phone who dis posted:

He has his flaws but I respect his struggle with his issues and think that he's genuinely a good person who cares about people.

I'd honestly rather listen to Boogie and jontron discuss the issue themselves; they seemed like the most thoughtful in that video.

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

Klyith posted:

It's also pretty transparent how "alt-right" was intentionally constructed to be a squirrely undefined word that can be used to smear people. It the alt-right:
1) stormfront and the miscellaneous nazi websites that Dylan Roof was reading?
2) the above plus 4chan's /pol/ and r/thedonald?
3) anyone who disagrees with the Blue groupthink du jour?

Don't stand too close to any of those people, you might catch the alt-right cooties!
well, referring specifically to sargom & his skeptic friends, the thing is their comments sections tend to have a good amount of frog avatars, anti simetic comments, MAGA, hitlers, etc

his prolific alt right following apparently upset sargon to the point where he started spamming gay porn @ ppl on Twitter, leading to account suspension (which he then promptly lied about in a video lol)

Butterwagon
Mar 21, 2010

Lookit that stupid ass-hole!

Kjoery posted:

well, referring specifically to sargom & his skeptic friends, the thing is their comments sections tend to have a good amount of frog avatars, anti simetic comments, MAGA, hitlers, etc

his prolific alt right following apparently upset sargon to the point where he started spamming gay porn @ ppl on Twitter, leading to account suspension (which he then promptly lied about in a video lol)

Judging content by its comment section is fair and good.

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

Kjoery posted:

well, referring specifically to sargom & his skeptic friends, the thing is their comments sections tend to have a good amount of frog avatars, anti simetic comments, MAGA, hitlers, etc

his prolific alt right following apparently upset sargon to the point where he started spamming gay porn @ ppl on Twitter, leading to account suspension (which he then promptly lied about in a video lol)

That's not what happened at all you dense kumquat

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

I've heard he doesn't like that segment of his fans, though. Is that wrong?
Makes me dislike him less, anyway.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Klyith posted:

It's also pretty transparent how "alt-right" was intentionally constructed to be a squirrely undefined word that can be used to smear people. It the alt-right:
1) stormfront and the miscellaneous nazi websites that Dylan Roof was reading?
2) the above plus 4chan's /pol/ and r/thedonald?
3) anyone who disagrees with the Blue groupthink du jour?

Don't stand too close to any of those people, you might catch the alt-right cooties!

The alt right is a self-coined term

new phone who dis
May 24, 2007

by VideoGames
Morbid Hound

Improbable Lobster posted:

The alt right is a self-coined term

Not any more.

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
I donated 30 dollars to the ACLU in support of poopypie

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS

Grevling posted:

I've heard he doesn't like that segment of his fans, though. Is that wrong?
Makes me dislike him less, anyway.

any nazi imagery you see in places like youtube is all ironic poo poo making nazis the butt of a long running joke, if you go to their YouTube channel and it's full of swastikas and jars of cum then it may be a different story

Putty
Mar 21, 2013

HOOKED ON THE BROTHERS
Ork of Fiction what was our actual game plan for helping pewdiepie again, are we going to fuse all our racism into a giant mech for him to pilot

crime weed
Nov 9, 2009

Putty posted:

That's not what happened at all you dense kumquat
checking over the incident again, you're right

it wasn't gay porn. it was interracial gay porn that caused him to violate TOS

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Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

new phone who dis posted:

The difference is that the video game guy isn't trying to package it as a noble thing. It's one thing to make an off-color joke in public as an admittedly failed attempt at humor to make money. It's a completely different animal to wrap up your outrage in a cloak of righteous ideology in a quest to undermine your competitors. A comedian telling a bad joke damages his brand, just like a self-serious journalistic outlet damages their own brand by making too big of a deal over it because they feel threatened by him.

Idk if people don't like his humor they could just not watch his YouTube if people don't like the papers take on it then they don't have to read it :shrug:

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