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Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

hell i like triple h generally but his "let's have an epic" match calling is really bad

also dont kid yourself by thinking shawn michaels was a good top guy (he wasn't)

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some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Julio Cruz posted:

You're deluded if you don't think Triple H has put on just as many great matches as Cena has.

Did Cena have one great match? If he did, then he had more than HHH had.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
i think a lot of the failure of HBK's top guy push was that he just wasn't pushed the right way, he should have constantly looked like a tough badass (like the HBK/Diesel IYH match, or the Mankind match) instead of doing whatever the hell his shtick was. If you want to say that 1995-1996 WWF was beyond his abilities to save I wouldn't argue the point too much.


rewatch HBK/Diesel, btw. It has to be the best Kevin Nash match ever, and might be a top-20 WWE match ever (HBK/Mankind is definitely a top-20 WWE match ever, and may be top-5)

Feels Villeneuve fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Feb 17, 2017

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ostentatious posted:

hell i like triple h generally but his "let's have an epic" match calling is really bad

also dont kid yourself by thinking shawn michaels was a good top guy (he wasn't)

HBK nearly killed the WWE but HHH 2002-2003 run was poison.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Julio Cruz posted:

So 7-8 then? Have 16 great Triple H matches:

vs the Rock, ladder match, Summerslam 98
vs Kurt Angle, Royal Rumble 2001
vs Stone Cold, 2/3 falls, No Way Out 2001
vs Chris Jericho, Hell in a Cell, Judgment Day 2002
vs Shawn Michaels, street fight, Summerslam 2002
vs Shawn Michaels, Hell in a Cell, Bad Blood 2004
vs Chris Benoit, Vengeance 2004
vs Batista, Hell in a Cell, Vengeance 2005
vs Ric Flair, last man standing, Summerslam 2005
vs Randy Orton, last man standing, No Mercy 2007
vs Jeff Hardy, No Mercy 2008
vs Undertaker, no holds barred, Wrestlemania 27
vs CM Punk, no DQ, Night of Champions 2011
vs Undertaker, Hell in a Cell, Wrestlemania 28
vs Brock Lesnar, cage match, Extreme Rules 2013
vs Daniel Bryan, Wrestlemania 30

I think your math could use some work dude

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Cena even had a great match during HHH's Reign of Terror, his 2003 Parking Lot Brawl with Eddie Guerrero.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

bradzilla posted:

I think your math could use some work dude

Also the taboo tuesday match was bette than the ss one.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


projecthalaxy posted:

Cena even had a great match during HHH's Reign of Terror, his 2003 Parking Lot Brawl with Eddie Guerrero.

Wasn't that on a random SD too with no hype or build

Cena had more great matches you could watch for free live than HHH, too. wow

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

I can't wait for the furious backpedaling post by Julia Cruz

Senerio
Oct 19, 2009

Roëmænce is ælive!
Triple H is a great character in fiction.

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Chris James 2 posted:

Wasn't that on a random SD too with no hype or build

Cena had more great matches you could watch for free live than HHH, too. wow

They had a screwy finish to a tag match the week before but basically yeah. Fun fact, that match, and the Cena/Eddie rivalry was what got me into being a weekly WWE watcher. 2003 Smackdown was good.

Vaguido
Feb 22, 2011

When the drug test comes back positive for performance enhancing drugs.

bradzilla posted:

I can't wait for the furious backpedaling post by Julia Cruz

He backpedaled right after posting his match list because thinking the Undertaker matches were not good means your standards are too high I guess.

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010
Also I'm probably the biggest Punk mark on these forums but HHH vs Punk is NOT a great match. It's fine, and that's about it.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Vaguido posted:

He backpedaled right after posting his match list because thinking the Undertaker matches were not good means your standards are too high I guess.

I love when people go from post to meltdown in an instant :allears:

Kaveman
Jul 25, 2009

NEVER!!!


Cena is a better wrestler and a better person than triple hhh

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Is HHH the worst member of the Kliq? I mean Shawn is usually in "best ever" discussions, Kevin Nash is the greatest person in wrestling history, Hall had a ton of good matches before his demons caught up to him. Is HHH the Jannetty of the Kliq?

TheHoosier
Dec 30, 2004

The fuck, Graham?!

I'll be going to Smackdown in Indy on March 7 and I cant wait for cool tough guy Baron Corbin to smash the balding slime golem Dean Ambrose

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

why hasnt aj styles vs neville happened yet please make that happen papa hunter tia

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

bradzilla posted:

I love when people go from post to meltdown in an instant :allears:

that's not what happened.

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

projecthalaxy posted:

Is HHH the worst member of the Kliq? I mean Shawn is usually in "best ever" discussions, Kevin Nash is the greatest person in wrestling history, Hall had a ton of good matches before his demons caught up to him. Is HHH the Jannetty of the Kliq?

X-Pac on the merit that you forgot about him

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


Ostentatious posted:

why hasnt aj styles vs neville happened yet please make that happen papa hunter tia

There is a hard barrier between cruiserweights and heavyweights that cannot be crossed. Please do not ask about Kalisto at this time.

HerraS
Apr 15, 2012

Looking professional when committing genocide is essential. This is mostly achieved by using a beret.

Olive drab colour ensures the genocider will remain hidden from his prey until it's too late for them to do anything.



projecthalaxy posted:

Is HHH the worst member of the Kliq? I mean Shawn is usually in "best ever" discussions, Kevin Nash is the greatest person in wrestling history, Hall had a ton of good matches before his demons caught up to him. Is HHH the Jannetty of the Kliq?

HHH is the most boring Kliq member inside and outside the ring and the only one who wasnt coked out of his mind 24/7, makes you think.

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

RacistGuidingLight posted:

that's not what happened.

Throwing a tantrum because people disagree and peacing out of the thread isn't a meltdown I guess?

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Ostentatious posted:

X-Pac on the merit that you forgot about him

X-Pac is almost unquestionably a better wrestler than HHH

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

Alain Post posted:

X-Pac is almost unquestionably a better wrestler than HHH

yes but nowhere near as important tbh

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Alain Post posted:

X-Pac is almost unquestionably a better wrestler than HHH

X-Pac was the "if they can't have at least a passable match with this guy then they're hopeless" guy for a long drat time

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



Julio Cruz posted:

So 7-8 then? Have 16 great Triple H matches:

vs Shawn Michaels, Hell in a Cell, Bad Blood 2004

wrong!

projecthalaxy
Dec 27, 2008

Yes hello it is I Kurt's Secret Son


1-2-3 Kid is good but X-pac is bad. #makesyouthink.

some bust on that guy
Jan 21, 2006

This avatar was paid for by the Silent Majority.

Ostentatious posted:

yes but nowhere near as important tbh

If only Xpac had married Stephanie instead.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
Didn't X-Pac have some good Indie matches when he got old and off drugs

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

Alain Post posted:

Didn't X-Pac have some good Indie matches when he got old and off drugs

He had a 5 star match in chikara with sami zayn

Suplex Liberace
Jan 18, 2012



He had a good showing at a King of Trios a few years ago iirc?

^^^maybe that's what im thinking of.

DoctorGonzo
Jul 25, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ostentatious posted:

yes but nowhere near as important tbh

Syxxx Pack is better than HHH in every way except marrying the bosses daughter.

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

Full disclosure, i like triple h but that x-pac vs. Sami zayn match in chikara is better than any triple h match

RacistGuidingLight
Apr 5, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

bradzilla posted:

Throwing a tantrum because people disagree and peacing out of the thread isn't a meltdown I guess?

That would in fact constitute a meltdown.

Chris James 2
Aug 9, 2012


bradzilla posted:

I love when people go from post to meltdown in an instant :allears:

Sramaker posted:

I request to being banned please, i don't have to deal with people who got fooled by the media.

There's no problem with the gaming industry and related stuff? Fools.

I hate SA and wish i never wasted money to join a bunch of people like, i'm not replying to anything anymore.

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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?goto=post&postid=439235233#post439235233 still the GOAT

El Gallinero Gros
Mar 17, 2010

Ostentatious posted:

Full disclosure, i like triple h but that x-pac vs. Sami zayn match in chikara is better than any triple h match

The Foley matches are better.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I think Waltman was just born too early, I can see an alternate universe where he was born ten years later and became one of the early indie stars, like Danielson.

Ostentatious
Sep 29, 2010

If he was born earlier and didnt have a drug problem he could be a lot like aj styles in the wwe imo

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NowonSA
Jul 19, 2013

I am the sexiest poster in the world!

This is amazing, if I ever decide for some crazy reason to get banned from the forum I'm going to try to have an even shorter meltdown about something, like 3 posts max.

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