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Aphrodite posted:Fallout 4 came out a whole year before the Pro.  Granted I would have bought it on PC for the mods anyway, but it was a gift I got so I can't exactly complain.
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Cyron posted:for me i was debating about getting a switch over the PS4 but the switch event let me down so i was set for ps4, i know the pro is very nice and the FPS boost seem great but i am poor. and yes i did taken offense to jokes about me being poor since i can never take a joke and my comebacks where made for that "that escalated quickly" meme. I get this and it's frustrating but I think the thread has mostly gotten past this. The whole "if you can't afford the pro, you shouldn't be spending money on video games anyway" thing that was getting repeated for a while is dumb because people on a lower budget should get to enjoy games too and things like the great slim deals are perfect for that.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:17
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idk how you could not notice the random single digit frame rate that could happen at times in fallout 4 that was absolutely not a thing in any of the previous bethesda games on console. maybe morrowind; I never played that on xbox
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Feb 17, 2017 20:18
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I think I might play Fallout 4 just to see if all the jokes about it are justified. I loved New Vegas and hated Fallout 3
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Feb 17, 2017 20:20
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Manatee Cannon posted:idk how you could not notice the random single digit frame rate that could happen at times in fallout 4
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Feb 17, 2017 20:21
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CrashCat posted:I'm not sure where the setting is, but the videos I am seeing show it as you just see the flat virtual screen up until the race actually starts, then it switches over. I did a whole race like that and it was just a flat virtual screen. May be that the download is not done yet, though.... we'll see.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:28
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Manatee Cannon posted:idk how you could not notice the random single digit frame rate that could happen at times in fallout 4 Skyrim got pretty bad on PS3 if you had a late game save. It wasn't as buggy as New Vegas, which is to date the buggiest PS3 game I've ever played.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:34
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Feenix posted:I did a whole race like that and it was just a flat virtual screen. May be that the download is not done yet, though.... we'll see.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:37
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I think I might play Fallout 4 just to see if all the jokes about it are justified. I loved New Vegas and hated Fallout 3 There are good parts to 4. I liked how they changed the power armor to its own specialized equipment on top of normal clothing and there are some really fun and silly quests mixed in with the garbo. On sale, it's not a bad buy. I think you're going on with the right mindset too because you know it's not going to meet the quality of NV. I know some people also love the base building stuff so there's that too.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:42
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I bought a Pro before it was cool to buy a Pro.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:44
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Fallout 4 was just so ridiculous I couldn't bring myself to take it seriously. It's one of the few games where I started playing it like a dickhead just by default.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:45
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89 posted:I bought a Pro before it was cool to buy a Pro. So before a theoretical future date?
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Feb 17, 2017 20:46
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bloodychill posted:There are good parts to 4. I liked how they changed the power armor to its own specialized equipment on top of normal clothing and there are some really fun and silly quests mixed in with the garbo. On sale, it's not a bad buy. I think you're going on with the right mindset too because you know it's not going to meet the quality of NV. The nuclear crater in the southwest is one of the coolest parts of the series too. The further in you go the less named things get then they stop even showing up on your map. I'm one of the people who liked the base building and I'd like to play other games with a similar mechanic to it.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:47
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Manatee Cannon posted:idk how you could not notice the random single digit frame rate that could happen at times in fallout 4 Did you play Skyrim on PS3 at launch? Because it was pretty awful. Skyrim PS4 even has issues specific to the PS4 Pro, and while looking "nicer" in as much an Elder Scrolls game can look with vanilla textures etc, it still suffers from framerate drops as frequently, if not moreso than the PS4 standard. Bethesda is a poo poo-from-asses tier developer, and it always has been. There's no "extra" leeway it, or any other dev on their level gets from a PS4 Pro or Scorpio simply existing, they will be bad no matter what the platform is. And that isn't to say that there WON'T be games where the Pro is going to be the best way to play, period. There will be devs who can take advantage of the upgrade and make a superior experience of it. Those same developers will also likely be at a place where people with a standard PS4 will not feel gimped in any way whatsoever unless they take worthless forums banter about owning a PSPoor seriously.
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Feb 17, 2017 20:50
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I did play skyrim at launch on ps3. it had different issues, like the memory leak thing. the insane fps drops present in fallout 4 wasn't a thing tho
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Feb 17, 2017 20:55
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I got very into FO4 on my second attempt. I really liked the wasteland areas just wandering around in the power armour and fighting death claws but as soon as the story wanted you to go into cities, the game just shits itself and I couldn't stand the performance problems. Like it's very hard to shoot people at 18fps. I think Bethesda have some very good people. The stories of some of the side quests, especially in Oblivion, are very good. The lighting in FO4 is great. Their engine and animations are just such total poo poo
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Feb 17, 2017 20:57
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I've never played a Yakuza game. I've never seen gameplay of a Yakuza game before 0. Is it normal that I want to buy it just because of its silly humor and beat everything down?
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Feb 17, 2017 21:13
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Guillermus posted:I've never played a Yakuza game. I've never seen gameplay of a Yakuza game before 0. Is it normal that I want to buy it just because of its silly humor and beat everything down? That was where I was up till a week ago. I do not regret my purchase in the slightest.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:14
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There are some mods available for Fallout 4 that remove some of the extraneous poo poo that affects performance. Seemed to work pretty well with what little I tested it. Far Harbor in particular seemed pretty well improved. I'm one of the few people around here that will actually defend Bethesda games, but it's hard to argue that they're not kind of poo poo from a technical perspective. They even hosed up the drat pro patch. Boosted mode could have gotten the game running smooth, but instead they give us loving nonsense like improved god rays.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:21
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Guillermus posted:I've never played a Yakuza game. I've never seen gameplay of a Yakuza game before 0. Is it normal that I want to buy it just because of its silly humor and beat everything down? Yes that's normal and the right thing to do. They're fun games.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:23
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. Yakuza 0 was gonna be my jumping in point, until Nioh came on to my radar. Now that's eating my life and Yakuza 0 will have to wait.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:39
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Nioh seems to be a game i would absolutely enjoy. But I know I wouldn't play it now with Berserk, Zelda and Nier coming soon. Might as well wait and grab it for a cheaper price down the line. .
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Feb 17, 2017 21:44
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As someone who knew about Yakuza but never played it, 0 is a great starting point and a really fun game. It's the game Shenmue was trying to be. It's absolutely stuffed with content and it balances the serious and humorous really well.
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Feb 17, 2017 21:47
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I just picked up Bloodborne on sale so I'll be holding off on Nioh as well.
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Jimbot posted:As someone who knew about Yakuza but never played it, 0 is a great starting point and a really fun game. It's the game Shenmue was trying to be. It's absolutely stuffed with content and it balances the serious and humorous really well. And also does a decent job of gating serious and humorous. You're playing this noirish story of betrayal, honor, and murder, and then in the very same game you're doing sidequests to challenge Michael Jackson to a dance-off and doing a stealth mission to buy porn for a 10 year old boy from a vending machine.
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Beastie posted:Fallout 4 was just so ridiculous I couldn't bring myself to take it seriously. It's one of the few games where I started playing it like a dickhead just by default. Good. the story is such a mess that the player turns out to be the only real bad guy in the whole game
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Feb 17, 2017 22:16
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Crappy Jack posted:And also does a decent job of gating serious and humorous. You're playing this noirish story of betrayal, honor, and murder, and then in the very same game you're doing sidequests to challenge Michael Jackson to a dance-off and doing a stealth mission to buy porn for a 10 year old boy from a vending machine. Ok fine guys. I'll buy it next week with Horizon Dawn when the PSN spend $100, get $15 back hits next Tuesday
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Sefal posted:Nioh seems to be a game i would absolutely enjoy. But I know I wouldn't play it now with Berserk, Zelda and Nier coming soon. Might as well wait and grab it for a cheaper price down the line.  oh my god I didn't realise this was coming out next week
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Feb 17, 2017 22:19
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Yeah, sadly Berserk along with Nioh will have to go on the 'quiet month or cheap only' pile since Nier, Zelda and Atelier Firis are all out before next pay day.
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Feb 17, 2017 22:21
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Yakuza was great for the first 9 chapters but 10 and 11 have been loving crazy great and i got 4 left to go
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Beastie posted:Fallout 4 was just so ridiculous I couldn't bring myself to take it seriously. It's one of the few games where I started playing it like a dickhead just by default.
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Man, it's been a minute since I played Resogun, but with the new patch I checked it out. This still, I think, is contender for best "videogame-rear end videogame" ever.
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Sakurazuka posted:Yeah, sadly Berserk along with Nioh will have to go on the 'quiet month or cheap only' pile since Nier, Zelda and Atelier Firis are all out before next pay day. What's the berserk reception been like? I totally forgot it was even out.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I think I might play Fallout 4 just to see if all the jokes about it are justified. I loved New Vegas and hated Fallout 3 Fallout 4 capitalizes on the strengths of 3 and in that way it's an improvement, but the things that made people like 1, 2, and New Vegas are almost completely stripped bare except for the Far Harbor DLC.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:What's the berserk reception been like? I totally forgot it was even out. Samurai Sanders seemed to think it was okay, from what I can tell it's exactly what you'd expect from a Berserk Warriors game for better or for worse. The low playable character count bothers me, it's not a deal breaker though.
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fallout 4 is mechanically a much better game that tells a much, much worse story than new vegas. I don't think anyone that hated fallout 3 but liked new vegas is gonna find much to like here, but if you like the formula behind the bethesda open world rpg then fallout 4 is one of the better ones the writing is absolutely dire. the gameplay is also better in an iterative way, so it's very likely that you'll play it and think "this is exactly how I remember fallout 3 being" even tho that's not really true. the improvements are mostly quality of life stuff and tweaks; it's still pretty much the same experience on the whole. I'd say that it has the best world of the three in terms of content, but again the writing is god awful. the ending is almost insultingly bad. the worst part about the writing is that it actually does have a pretty decent part near the beginning when valentine is the backbone of the story. he's def the best character bethesda has ever written, for whatever that's worth. I think the biggest issue with the game, barring the frankly unacceptable performance problems, is that it feels old. this does not feel or look like a next gen game. fallout 4 feels like a game that should have come out a year after skyrim
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Manatee Cannon posted:fallout 4 is mechanically a much better game that tells a much, much worse story than new vegas. I don't think anyone that hated fallout 3 but liked new vegas is gonna find much to like here, but if you like the formula behind the bethesda open world rpg then fallout 4 is one of the better ones Agree with all this, especially the Valentine part.
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Valentine is cool and his voice is cool and he can roll to hack terminals so he's never leaving my side More controversial opinions later
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Sakurazuka posted:Samurai Sanders seemed to think it was okay, from what I can tell it's exactly what you'd expect from a Berserk Warriors game for better or for worse. The low playable character count bothers me, it's not a deal breaker though. It can't possibly be as bad as Fist of the North Star: Ken's Rage which was like the ultimate insult of being too cheap to license a ton of music from the show, was slow as hell, has a small roster, and only has you fighting like three or four guys at a time. I mean I love Fist of the North Star but after playing some of it even I skipped on picking up. I heard the second one is better but never bothered.
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Fallout 4 is the first Bethesda game with remotely interesting characters where I actually don't just read the text and then click past all the voice acting. it's just very hard to care about that because as mentioned, the writing and plot is quite bad, and a lot of other issues make it very hard to get invested in anything that's not the gameplay.
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