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Imagine going through life this loving dumb, if anything Chris Roberts should be thanked for taking this poor bastards thoughts off his own flawed existence. Even if he did charge him a few thousand for it.
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boviscopophobic posted:Possible new development: CIG asked for photo ID before they would issue a refund. I just emailed my attorney, as I'm quite sure that's not legal.
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biglads posted:stimpire.txt Thank you for grounding us in reality. I just called my parents and read them this, after I reminded them that I love them.
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Demanding real identifying documents that require scanning or forms that need faxing would be a good way to slow down and discourage people asking for refunds. I also can't see any other reason to do that other than to try and slow down and discourage refunds. Maybe their tactics of arguing, pleading or misdirecting people isn't working as well as they would like since everyone who has enough money on the line has motivation to figure out they can not deny refunds under any circumstances.
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peter gabriel posted:Will CIG run out of money before the general public runs out of fucks to give? If you reflect a moment, you will find gently caress-giving to be a rather specialized market, with the 'general public' not having fucks to give to anything. So it is really a matter of whales finding someplace else to give their fucks. And I think we are approaching singularity.
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Space Crabs posted:Demanding real identifying documents that require scanning or forms that need faxing would be a good way to slow down and discourage people asking for refunds. Identifying 'troublemakers'. Trying to build a cogent argument around paid agitprop being the source of all the trouble. It's still terrifically shady to ask for information other than that supplied during the order unless say, the email address changed. That's generally used as the specific endpoint to define 'You', although it's being supplanted by the mobile device as a physical token. Personally, I think you're right, I'm just thinking out loud. Edit: On Planetside 2; They actually split the entire map into cells, a little like cell towers, and you 'see' a number of cells depending on the number of objects in a given set of cells. The Crown used to get terrible visibility just before a big push from the zerg. In fact, there was a bug that involved using C4 on a sundie with a particular mod that would disconnect everyone in a node. That was really loving annoying for a couple of months. Hav fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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peter gabriel posted:To be fair they did add a Lumberyard logo to the start up screen If its like the "Made in Georgia" deal, you get a rebate if you do so. So maybe they are saving a few % on AWS cost by putting the logo there.
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"Thank you for contacting Legal Zoom support live chat, my name is Rakesh. How can I assist you today?" Insane Man: "STAR CITIZEN is asking for proof ID when someone asks for a refund and furthermore as I had done in my game Line of Defense that would have been laughed at 15 years ago in my  THE JULY BLOG and furthermore" *continues ranting, randomly bolding and hyperlinking until hitting the character limit*Rakesh: "I'm sorry sir, I'm not sure I understand the problem. Are you having an issue with one of our forms?"
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remembering the good times from 2016TheAgent posted:according to my drinking buddy, to hit full release this is the actual internal timetable and not chris's headcanon
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D_Smart posted:I just emailed my attorney, as I'm quite sure that's not legal. Don't hound him too much on it.
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You would be a complete fool to provide additional PERSONAL INFORMATION to a company that has been KNOWN to ABUSE user data.
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Colostomy Bag posted:Don't hound him too much on it. His bark is worse than his bite. You shouldn't even paws for thought.
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AP posted:Imagine going through life this loving dumb, if anything Chris Roberts should be thanked for taking this poor bastards thoughts off his own flawed existence. Even if he did charge him a few thousand for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyFfmGf3b2Y
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Speaking as a layman with access to Ctrl+F The cast iron terms of service contain no references to identification or photograph (or variants). If they aren't worried about identity theft in taking the money, they shouldn't have standing to claim concerns on identity theft in refunding the money. Golli fucked around with this message at 20:52 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Fat Shat Sings posted:Actually I don't think that is the case. I mean it's the common joke that backers are dumb enough to keep this trash fire going but something to consider is the cost of Squadron 42. It's a shift in consideration for what they are doing since it would be an actual release. To shamelessly quote myself, Add "3.0 Patch" in there before SQLude since theagent's leaks make it sound like they can't even finish the SQlude now and are pushing it back to try and make more money with another smoke and mirror routine. The real deciding factor is how long it takes them to make 3.0, how the whale's attitudes hold up and how their expenditures go. It's entirely possible they hit a point where 3.0 is still months away, their income in way below whats needed and then they have to do some downsizing or take other actions that signify bad health or trouble with the company which will have a disastrous impact on the whales which will further hurt the income. I don't believe people that say this will last years and years, especially since it looks like Crobblers will run 100% inefficient right up until he is unable anymore and then have no preparation and no assets to try and proceed at a sensible / reduced pace. If he were going to settle in for another few years of development or any of the theoretical situations where he can survive a complete collapse of backer faith then he would have downsized already or taken a single step toward something sensible and efficient. It's like a sports star that has tens of millions of dollars buying solid gold toilets and jets with giant sapphires for windows. People can totally argue he could liquidate X or survive off of Y if he made sensible responses to things that happen, but nope hes going to keep writing checks until they start bouncing and end up with a huge amount of debt.
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"hundreds of thousands of people maybe in one instance," - Erin Roberts
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TrustmeImLegit posted:"hundreds of thousands of people maybe in one instance," - Erin Roberts maybe
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A whale (any gamer paying more than $60 for a game, is considered a whale) just got his refund, and posted a pretty good synopsis behind his reasoning.
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I'm the comment from Erin Roberts about how hard actual work is now , after simply copy and pasting in his last job for 10 years Erin , the one everyone said would make Chris finish the game .... alarm bells should be ringing
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do you read these to yourself or do you do an inner dialogue? I am just curious on your blogging process.
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Your argument seems to be based on the opinion that servers, PCs, and networking hasn't improved in over 15 years. In 2003, having 200,000 polygons in a player model was seen as inconceivable. It's not impossible now. People with decades under their belts declared that electric cars weren't either possible, feasible, wanted, or profitable. Elon Musk is laughing.
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D_Smart posted:A whale (any gamer paying more than $60 for a game, is considered a whale) just got his refund, and posted a pretty good synopsis behind his reasoning. i would argue Whales start above 100$. Sadly most serious AAA titles are now sold for 60$ + 40$ season pass if you want "the whole game" and i dont consider getting a "collector edition" at 80$ for like game + soundtrack or game+ cloth map or T-Shirt or artbook really being a whale. I politely suggest being carefull with throwing "Impossible" around. History has shown that with enough money and human suffering (Provided in this case by CIG peons and backers) great things can be acheived. The odds and all proof of experience are against them, but who know, they might stumble on another young Carmack or Mitnick among the interns. The catholic church has been fleecing pesants with the promise of heaven for 2000 years, so maybe CIG can keep fleecing the backers untill someone else resolve the n+1 problem for them. Assuming they keep releasing half backed yearly modules with the promises to tie them all up together "someday" this dumpster fire can burn for a long, long time. The monkeys might not write the whole Hamlet on the typewriters, but they might make a good first act if given 15 years. aleksendr fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Feb 17, 2017 |
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Where I work, it's illegal to request or store identifying information that is not required to conduct your business. More than that, it's also illegal to store personal information beyond the scope of the transaction in which it's required, unless you have a legit reason. Plus, everywhere I've worked has treated identifying info as a liability to be avoided at all costs. As it raises various insurance and maintenance costs... If you're doing things properly, at least.
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You can't be a whale without micro-transactions* *macro-transactions in SC's case.
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a whale I think now is 200+. Most AAA BS stuff is about $170 Can for the game/dlc/season pass/extra poo poo. mmo whales etc are different breed.
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http://weekender.pcgamer.com/whats-on/developer-stage Fun and engaging gameplay, something CIG is very good at
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Nicholas posted:Its gonna be like the ending to The Sixth Sense  Laughed out loud and then adjusted my Fedora.
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Daztek posted:http://weekender.pcgamer.com/whats-on/developer-stage But will they have another ship sale?
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Daztek posted:http://weekender.pcgamer.com/whats-on/developer-stage gently caress buying a ticket. I'll just hide in a catering crate and sneak in.
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D_Smart posted:I just emailed my attorney, as I'm quite sure that's not legal. Hmm, I think it's become fairly commonplace for gambling websites to ask for ID before processing a withdrawal. They claim it's anti-money laundering, though if the money is only going back to the same place it came from I don't really get that. Probably just another pain in the rear end hoop for refundees to jump through. E. From Ladbrokes help for reference.. 
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Wrecked Angle posted:Hmm, I think it's become fairly commonplace for gambling websites to ask for ID before processing a withdrawal. They claim it's anti-money laundering, though if the money is only going back to the same place it came from I don't really get that. Probably just another pain in the rear end hoop for refundees to jump through. moms do it in Canada to try and stop selling to under age kids. I take it they ask id from people all over the world?
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Snazzy Frocks posted:why hasn't anyone just taken the star citizen idea, removed all the impossible parts, and developed it with a competent team Hellion.
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so since we're on the topic of refunds and that whole data collection that bit CIG in the rear end, I figure now would be a good time tell everyone that a source tells me that if you have gotten/requested a refund, you are essentially blacklisted, and purchasing a ship in the future may be problematic if the game ever comes out (lol)
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nawledgelambo posted:so since we're on the topic of refunds and that whole data collection that bit CIG in the rear end, I figure now would be a good time tell everyone that a source tells me that if you have gotten/requested a refund, you are essentially blacklisted, and purchasing a ship in the future may be problematic if the game ever comes out (lol) darn, CIG finally killed the grey market???
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Upcoming heavy changes for StarMarine ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrWgLMH8yRU
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Krycek posted:But will they have another ship sale? Ofcourse, commando! https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen/comments/5uoh8k/anvil_hurricane_concept_sale_for_friday_24th_on/ 
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