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I don't think they are, but as soon as you realize you own a mk 4 Golf 1.8T you want to kill yourself and maybe people end up rolling in the process?
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I would pay some price ($6k?) for the cool sound of the VR6 GTI, but I think my tastes in how a car drives have moved on. They must think the audience of BaT has among it enough people who want a Mk4, though.
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Guinness posted:How on earth is a GTI "easy to roll"? Examples of the "driving" style that results in rolled GTIs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEsvpWBRCEU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHeKOEN_0sM
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The driver in that R35 video just pisses me off to no end. I'm couldn't imagine being that lackadaisical, even on the street in light traffic, get your goddamn hands on the goddamn wheel! 
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KozmoNaut posted:The driver in that R35 video just pisses me off to no end. Isn't it such great advertisement for how insanely capable the R35 GTR is though? I got to drive one around for a little while, and that is the sort of car I couldn't imagine owning without having diplomatic immunity or something. I left it in full auto and treated the inputs like on-off switches and the car Just Did It. Doing dangerous poo poo in an R35 just doesn't feel dangerous.
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RIP Paul Walker posted:Examples of the "driving" style that results in rolled GTIs: I feel like it says a lot when the driving instructor isn't wearing a helmet, no matter what you say about "ignoring it." e: oh ok, I get why they need to ignore that when talking through the other criticisms. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Feb 16, 2017 |
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Tavarish made an impassioned argument that the V8 Vantage is the best <40k exotic: http://jalopnik.com/the-aston-martin-v8-vantage-is-the-best-used-exotic-car-1792353553 The lack of throttle response alone would be a dealbreaker; I don't remember that specifically when I test drove one, but I did remember it felt sluggish somehow. If you get the chance to pick between owning a 348 vs a V8 Vantage at the same price, absolutely go for the 348. Even with the stock exhaust, it sounds better than the Aston. Not that the Aston sounded bad.
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kimbo305 posted:Tavarish made an impassioned argument that the V8 Vantage is the best <40k exotic: 'My car is the best car" - Every Jalopnik editorial It's also objectively not true when 996TTs are under 40k. Fact. 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Lotus-Esprit-/142244553791 Did some Esprit research -- sounds like the I4 is way safer than the Renault trans behind the V8.
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kimbo305 posted:http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Lotus-Esprit-/142244553791
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kimbo305 posted:http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Lotus-Esprit-/142244553791 I can't even look at Esprit's over 15k after this one: http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1994-lotus-esprit-s4/ Man I wish I had bought that car
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Jymmybob posted:http://rennlist.com/forums/vehicle-marketplace/975666-f-s-2003-996-c4s-ls3-480-hp.html He's dreaming at that price. e: trying to decide if the overhang on the Esprit is worse than the 348's. Maybe.
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Check if this thing's still around somewhere, it should be legal around now  : http://bringatrailer.com/2014/09/05/rare-in-the-usa-1992-lotus-carlton-sedan/
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 I wish I didn't have the money sitting in my bank accounthttps://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/ctd/6007034342.html
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The plug wires are touching the exhaust manifolds in that engine bay pic...
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I asked the seller, and he says there's a gap, though I'm sure it hits under cornerinng. Googling around, it's the sloppier builds that have top routed plug wires. Jalopnik's debate about the ugliest Ferrari (where the 348 seems to have dodged nominations in the comments) led to this really wild list, featuring a cameo from that future bike cop who drove the Bertone Carabo: https://www.classicdriver.com/en/article/cars/10-odd-ferraris-we-almost-forgot
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kimbo305 posted:http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Lotus-Esprit-/142244553791 The Esprit is such a gorgeous car.
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Somewhere on the internet there is a build log where a guy swaps an Audi 4.2 v8 and its trans-axle into a first gen Esprit. It is super tempting to replicate but was definitely not a straightforward project. That gearbox is what normally stays my hand when looking at them, especially now that the other cars sharing it (Maserati Ghibli and Citroen SM) have jumped so high in value. I bid on a Black '77 project 2 or so years ago but it was snapped up by a guy who polished it up and lied about all the issues it had when reselling it a few months later.
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kimbo305 posted:http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-Lotus-Esprit-/142244553791 I'd expect someone out there has worked out a conversion to something like a flipped 911 gearbox.~ Edit: I do like later Esprits. I think my soft spot for them is when they were cast as the "cool spy car" in Teen Agent. InitialDave fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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The Esprit was pretty much my #1 favorite car when I was a kid, especially because of bond. That black s4 is immaculate, and you should get it.
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Only downside is that it's black, which I don't think shows off the lines that well. '88 is not as reliable of a year, but I'm extremely partial to white (go figure): https://www.cargurus.com/Cars/inventorylisting/viewDetailsFilterViewInventoryListing.action#listing=164378345
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might be a a little late, but this goes up on the auction block in 12 hours. https://www.mecum.com/lots/LA0217-287713/1989-lotus-esprit-s3/
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Powershift posted:might be a a little late, but this goes up on the auction block in 12 hours. S3s are beautiful, but Mecum is 10% buyer's fee and $200 to register to bid. A little rich for my blood.
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InitialDave posted:Yeah, It's still the UN1, though in fairness, it's not quite the same gearbox in later versions as the older/smaller engined cars, and is apparently rated for a hair under 300 lbs.ft.  I wonder how temperamental they are.
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Get some Porsche with fried eggs and get it over with. They are all unique snowflake unicorns in their own way. Especially whatever crazy one you find.
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Sten Freak posted:Don't forget Pretty Woman
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Methinks your bubble will be burst on the Esprit the moment someone asks you why your MR2 looks funny. E: the 914 has something like a flipped 911 gearbox.
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After getting very little attention in the 348, I'm ok with not having random stranger appreciation for my ride. My friend is taking the whole weekend to decide if he wants that salvage Boxster I won on eBay, so I can't proceed with any of my schemes til then. One more observation -- I find myself looking at where a car is located when I spot something unusual online. Now that Trump is president, I honestly don't feel as comfortable flying in by myself to some parts of the country to drive home a car. Like a cool car located in rural Missouri? It would never have bothered me before, but it's something on my mind now.
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kimbo305 posted:Only downside is that it's black, which I don't think shows off the lines that well. '88 is not as reliable of a year, but I'm extremely partial to white (go figure): Do not buy an 88 or older turbo Esprit, K-Jet is a bitch to find parts for (and the transmission is worse, but that's not nearly as bad as having to deal with finding K-Jet parts). The 89+ cars used GM fuel injection.
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I thought 88 had the slightly better Renault trans? Though K-Jet sounds like a bear. e: the more I read about Esprit maintenance, the more it seems in a totally different class than the 348. Everything is couched in terms of "it can be reliable, if you watch out for X, Y, Z." Stuff like recommending the manual steering rack be replaced every 2-3 years as a wear item is insane. kimbo305 fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Feb 18, 2017 |
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kimbo305 posted:One more observation -- I find myself looking at where a car is located when I spot something unusual online. Nothing changed with the structure of our society with the election of a new president. Missouri is more a fuckhole for its rural nature than any latent racism (well, at least no more latent racism than our country as a whole). In the end, you're dealing with an individual person selling a car. If you're relying on stereotypes, then the stereotypical Missourian that owns a car you're interested in is probably p cool. If you base your decisions on fear, then the terrorists win. Whether you interpret terrorists as crazy brown people or our government leaders... well... that's a different topic.
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Yeah, I know it's irrational to think the country is fundamentally different or less safe because of the election; it's just that I would never have even thought about it before.
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Except hate crimes are absolutely more common since his election, so it's not irrational.
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Seminal Flu posted:Nothing changed with the structure of our society with the election of a new president. How much you feel that is an actual threat is another matter. Seminal Flu posted:In the end, you're dealing with an individual person selling a car. If you're relying on stereotypes, then the stereotypical Missourian that owns a car you're interested in is probably p cool. Kimbo, I understand why you might feel that way, but I do agree with SF, don't let it be something that stops you doing what you want to do.
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Very sad that either people or the media makes you feel that way. Car people are car people so you shouldn't worry about that. I can only speak for myself but while I am "pro-Trump" I am also known in my Town as the go-to computer guy for Hispanics because I treat them with honesty and respect. In other news thoughts on that 81 911 on BAT? I think that may be my favorite Porsche I have ever seen on the site.
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Krakkles posted:Except hate crimes are absolutely more common since his election, so it's not irrational. "More common" is not anywhere near "common." Anything that happens at the moment is instantly spread country-wide, so any incidents seem more prevalent. You're not in the US, your opinion doesn't count. Sorry for the derail, but I support a Kimbo fly-and-drive run and I fully believe that he'll make it out and back in a fairly "alive" condition. Don't bring cash, though, the government will find a way to take it... because you're not lily white and you're traveling. That's probable cause.
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