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Maher is and always has been trash. When people act like he is the leftwing counter to every right wing maniac it really pisses me off and I wish he would get canceled and forgotten about.
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Feb 18, 2017 14:32
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LeeMajors posted:If I could fight any public figure, it'd be Hannity. I'm not sure there's another person on the planet I'd get actual sexual pleasure from stomping into the ground. Just a garbage human. No redeeming qualities. Bad, bad person.
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Feb 18, 2017 15:15
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Radish posted:Maher is and always has been trash. When people act like he is the leftwing counter to every right wing maniac it really pisses me off and I wish he would get canceled and forgotten about. I enjoy Maher from time to time but as of late he's been a real dick. Milo an actual troll and deserves no stage time.
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Feb 18, 2017 15:34
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Radish posted:Maher is and always has been trash. When people act like he is the leftwing counter to every right wing maniac it really pisses me off and I wish he would get canceled and forgotten about. Anyone who acts -that- upset about treating people with dignity has some serious problems. That being said, he directs that poo poo at the right people enough that I can kind of white wash him as a liberal comedian. However, with trans issues and immigration being thrust to the forefront of American civil discourse he's officially camped himself with the alt-right ilk and that's pretty unforgivable.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Listening to Hannity talk about how good Trump's press conference was made me feel uncomfortable. It was bad enough that Trump gave a surreal rant at anyone he could lash out against, now someone is telling me that it was actually good. And then later, after having time to cool down and collect his thoughts... Trump essentially tweets "L'état, c'est moi!"
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Feb 18, 2017 16:52
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Radish posted:Maher is and always has been trash. When people act like he is the leftwing counter to every right wing maniac it really pisses me off and I wish he would get canceled and forgotten about. Definitely proof of the horseshoe.
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Feb 18, 2017 17:05
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I know it's been over in this thread before, but it's really not the horseshoe. Maher's liberal cred basically begins and ends at opposing Bush. He's what a moderate Republican would look like if the party hadn't completely gone off the rails into crazy town.
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Feb 18, 2017 17:14
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https://twitter.com/LifeSite/status/832779927967588358 She refused to insert an IUD
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Feb 18, 2017 17:15
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/LifeSite/status/832779927967588358 Would she also refuse to administer an abortion if the pregnancy was threatening the mothers life?
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Feb 18, 2017 17:19
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Chilichimp posted:Would she also refuse to administer an abortion if the pregnancy was threatening the mothers life? A true Christian would give the mother holy water and dust to abort the baby. After all thats the potion used in the Bible in Numbers 5:11-31
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Feb 18, 2017 17:44
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Tab8715 posted:Rush says he likes Trump but if you listen to him you'll feel the hesitation in his voice. Rush kind of defends Trump but like a lot of right-wing political cartoonists, he's definitely turned more towards "Liberals are unhinged/MSM is bad" than "Trump is good." He talks a lot about how liberals are bad and destructive and it's unfair to Trump but is rarely actively defending Trump.
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Feb 18, 2017 18:08
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I know it's been over in this thread before, but it's really not the horseshoe. Maher's liberal cred basically begins and ends at opposing Bush. He's what a moderate Republican would look like if the party hadn't completely gone off the rails into crazy town. You're delusional if you think his particular brand of fundamentalist atheism isn't a liberal thing.
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Feb 18, 2017 18:10
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Yeah, Maher spouts plenty of actual leftist stuff if you watch the whole show. But I personally struggle to get through his bits where he's being lovely about Islam or PC stuff. Though I think he did have a point about liberals tearing themselves apart over dumb poo poo instead of focusing on beating the other side, the way conservatives have been doing pretty much since 1980. I'm just glad Last Week Tonight is back because now I can go back to forgetting that Maher's show exists.
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Feb 18, 2017 18:35
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Rush is really good at what he does. He advocates for america and leaves politicians as the solution. He doesn't advocate for politicians alone, it is always tied to the focus. So, he is free to pivot without being tied down to anyone person. His proofs are what makes him hard to refute if you function on limited information. America is in danger because immigrants come here illegally liberals want to let them in conservatives want to build a wall It makes sense in a certain child logic kind of way. He creates these devious wedges where you have to educate someone from top to bottom or argue with emotional reactions. The left cannot do this. Maybe gay marriage was the only time by presenting it as equality (which is obviously always good). But Rush does this day in and day out. Emotional appeals and "logic" will always win over facts. Maher is like the only the left person that will get rude with the right. He doesn't flinch. He doesn't snort. He just says 'you're an idiot' in a way that resonates with dumb people. Then he laughs at people. Maher is a good enough Rush. He's wrong a lot but the left makes perfect the enemy of the good too much.
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Feb 18, 2017 18:48
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TildeATH posted:You're delusional if you think his particular brand of fundamentalist atheism isn't a liberal thing. Wars of choice in the middle east and torturing people -- you are deluded if you don't think these are liberal things.
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Feb 18, 2017 20:09
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Chilichimp posted:Would she also refuse to administer an abortion if the pregnancy was threatening the mothers life? Probably and much worse. Reminder don't go to "religious" hospitals. Also reminder Hannity unlikely most talking heads is in 100% control of his tweets and will probably take the bait if you troll him. And he's a giant pussy for chickening out of getting waterboarded.
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Feb 18, 2017 20:11
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It's so disheartening that so many people just ate up the term "fake news" like good little Republicans and are super proud of Trump for going back to the old ways and finally standing up to the media the other day.
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Feb 18, 2017 21:11
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Less a current RWM topic and more a thought exercise: supposing Trump dies in office without having been impeached... what's the party line for obituaries or a funereal address? They're caught in an awkward position because Donald isn't eloquent, handsome, charming, brilliant, knowledgeable, noble, kind or professional. He's a lovely forwarded email from your dumb racist uncle, given human form. It strikes me as an incredible burden for spin-masters and speechwriters. Do they just cop-out and say "He wanted to make America great again, perhaps there were a few hidden aces up those sleeves" or what?
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sweart gliwere posted:Less a current RWM topic and more a thought exercise: supposing Trump dies in office without having been impeached... what's the party line for obituaries or a funereal address? Warren G Harding died in the midst of a horribly corrupt administration that he never seemed to get a handle on, so that's a useful comparison, I guess. Here's the New York Times obituary for him: http://starship.python.net/crew/manus/Presidents/wgh/wghobit.html You'll notice it says very little about Harding's administration or attributes, and mostly focuses on describing the circumstances of the death.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:https://twitter.com/LifeSite/status/832779927967588358 Yeah but this took place in Norway, I imagine their government wouldn't tolerate religious nutter bullshit arguments in court.
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Radish posted:Maher is and always has been trash. When people act like he is the leftwing counter to every right wing maniac it really pisses me off and I wish he would get canceled and forgotten about. I'm fine with saying Maher is the "left wing _______" as long as the person who says it then acknowledges that Maher is relegated to late night premium cable once a week, doesn't even pretend his show is news, and most liberals either don't know who he is or hate him. So like, if the statement is "Bill Maher is the left wing Bill O'Reilly" the follow up should be "Why the gently caress do you give O'Reilly so much attention and respect, then?" Of course then there's the basic question of "Is Maher actually liberal?" but if I'm already having this argument I'm guessing the person on the other side will never be able to see the nuance of that.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:She refused to insert an IUD Then, you have a person in a medical profession, who may or may not do part of their job, depending on their current interpretation of a cryptic document. They are so incredibly lucky that religion is a protected class, because under normal circumstances "person who may or may not execute the duties of their profession" would be shown the door the second they doubted that she would do her job reliably. ed: yes, it took place in Norway. In the US, she'd keep her job and make a killing off her go fund me.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I know it's been over in this thread before, but it's really not the horseshoe. Maher's liberal cred basically begins and ends at opposing Bush. He's what a moderate Republican would look like if the party hadn't completely gone off the rails into crazy town. I wouldn't go that far. Just because he doesn't meet some D&D standard of ideological purity doesn't make him some trash garbage right winger. He's just an old pothead comedian. He says dumb jokes. He has a handful of more conservative views but mostly liberal. I mean he's been a board member of PETA since the 90s. I'll watch his show now and then and might be entertained by it for like 30 minutes in a week. That's the extent of my relationship with Bill Maher. There's been quite a few Maher derails in this thread and it's funny how upset some people on this forum get over him. Like this guy: Radish posted:Maher is and always has been trash. When people act like he is the leftwing counter to every right wing maniac it really pisses me off and I wish he would get canceled and forgotten about. Like, lol
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He was a big libertarian during the Politically Incorrect years, well before Bush was in office.
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Kenzie posted:I wouldn't go that far. Just because he doesn't meet some D&D standard of ideological purity doesn't make him some trash garbage right winger. He's just an old pothead comedian. He says dumb jokes. He has a handful of more conservative views but mostly liberal. I mean he's been a board member of PETA since the 90s. You're not explaining how this makes him not a trash garbage right winger. All being a member of PETA says is that you're an idiot.
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Yeah, I don't think Maher's politics have changed dramatically over the years. I watched him a lot more and agreed with him a lot more in my early 20s, but its probably pretty safe to say that I was a little more "liberterian" in my youth and it was me who grew up and changed his politics to be more liberal. I'm guessing a lot of people followed that path with him.
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Nah that's Keith Olbermann. Maher is sympathetic to at least a little of the rights rhetoric and can swallow the bile people like Coulter and Milo put out. Olbermann is literally calling for Donald Trump to be arrested at the moment.
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I like how he thinks such a tepid burn is a space dunk.
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fishmech posted:You're not explaining how this makes him not a trash garbage right winger. All being a member of PETA says is that you're an idiot. Yeah don't mistake being a member of PETA for being liberal it's a whole different animal, like being a hardcore Scientologist or something
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Aesop Poprock posted:Nah that's Keith Olbermann. Maher is sympathetic to at least a little of the rights rhetoric and can swallow the bile people like Coulter and Milo put out. Olbermann is literally calling for Donald Trump to be arrested at the moment. maher was also fuckbuddies with coulter at one point, so there's that
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Faustian Bargain posted:I like how he thinks such a tepid burn is a space dunk. That's the first rule of comedy; timing is everything. It was probably hilarious in the moment.
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i'll tell you what, i'm in the wrong thread. oops.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:maher was also fuckbuddies with coulter at one point, so there's that Wow that wasn't a mental image I ever needed
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Aesop Poprock posted:Wow that wasn't a mental image I ever needed world war z of all things had a brief reference to it: quote:There was the political comedy guy, you know, the one with the show. He was snorting quote:I stepped over Mister Political Comedy Guy on my way out to the beach. He and this
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Kenzie posted:I wouldn't go that far. Just because he doesn't meet some D&D standard of ideological purity doesn't make him some trash garbage right winger. He's just an old pothead comedian. He says dumb jokes. He has a handful of more conservative views but mostly liberal. I mean he's been a board member of PETA since the 90s. The deal-breaker with Maher has always been his persistent Islamophobia and alignment with the New Atheists. Having Milo on leans into that in a really bad way. He's also super classist, elitist and snobby, which is what always turned me off. His comic persona is like the dictionary definition of "out of touch liberal douchebag".
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The thing about Maher's islamophobia is that he's basically always painted every religious person in the world as a dangerous, crazy, evil, rear end in a top hat.
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Periodiko posted:The deal-breaker with Maher has always been his persistent Islamophobia and alignment with the New Atheists. Having Milo on leans into that in a really bad way. Like him or not, "out of touch liberal douchebag" is a much better way to describe him than trying to label him as some kind of right winger or something. Can you identify any right wing conservative PETA supporters?
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Kenzie posted:Like him or not, "out of touch liberal douchebag" is a much better way to describe him than trying to label him as some kind of right winger or something. Can you identify any right wing conservative PETA supporters? Bill Maher, a man who is a huge loving islamophobe and general idiot.
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