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RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

Kilza posted:

The Edmonton Oilers are currently the best NHL team in Canada. I don't think anybody would have predicted that before the season began.

I think literally everyone did assuming an uninjured McDavid.

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DOOMocrat
Oct 2, 2003

After the first third period comeback of the year, the Stars salute Dave Strader calling a game for the first time this season, while recieving cancer treatment.

He was great. gently caress cancer.

https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/833160030346153984

Starsfan
Sep 29, 2007

This is what happens when you disrespect Cam Neely

real touching moment here. getting Dave back for the rest of the home games is the best reward that Stars fans are going to get this year.

dandaman
Dec 30, 2005

Leafs lost.

Islanders lost.

Cats win 4th in a row, last 7 of 8.

Panthers in 3rd place in the Atlantic.

:catdrugs::catdrugs::catdrugs:

dandaman fucked around with this message at 06:47 on Feb 19, 2017

HookShot
Dec 26, 2005
Don Bradman in cricket averaged 99 runs which is pretty much never going to be done again and before you Americans all claim it's not a sport people watch you forget about the billion people in India who do.

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel
Today's game was a great preview of the inevitable playoff rematch.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

HookShot posted:

Don Bradman in cricket averaged 99 runs which is pretty much never going to be done again and before you Americans all claim it's not a sport people watch you forget about the billion people in India who do.

Don Bradman: Immortalized

https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=bduKfISw3ZE

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
Erik Gudbranson is so astonishingly bad at hockey he makes Luca Sbisa look good in comparison.

Check and mate, motherfuckers :colbert:

Shawn Cotureier
Jan 21, 2009

Still better than Umberger

grack posted:

Erik Gudbranson is so astonishingly bad at hockey he makes Luca Sbisa look good in comparison.

Check and mate, motherfuckers :colbert:

They'll still win tomorrow night :tastykake:

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

HookShot posted:

Don Bradman in cricket averaged 99 runs which is pretty much never going to be done again and before you Americans all claim it's not a sport people watch you forget about the billion people in India who do.

I don't know anything about Cricket and it's moon nonsense but even I know that Don Bradman is probably the greatest athlete of all time when compared to the rest of his peers

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009


Holy poo poo i think I understand cricket now!

(kind of)

(but waaaaaayyyyyyyy better than before)

RC Cola
Aug 1, 2011

Dovie'andi se tovya sagain

dandaman posted:

Leafs lost.

Islanders lost.

Cats win 4th in a row, last 7 of 8.

Panthers in 3rd place in the Atlantic.

:catdrugs::catdrugs::catdrugs:

Go cats

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

thanks for the serious replies! i guess i was thinking less in terms of iron-man type records, which are impressive but i don't view on the same level of achievement as production-related records. same goes for winning championships, which is why i specified 'individual' records, and for old timey sports fellas that set crazy records before electricity was invented

the chamberlain record is a good one. still feels like gretzky's scoring has got to be at least top 3 in terms of untouchability, if not #1

I don't understand Cricket, but this guy shows up when "completely dominated game" talks come up.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Bradman


Edit: beaten

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

grack posted:

Erik Gudbranson is so astonishingly bad at hockey he makes Luca Sbisa look good in comparison.

Check and mate, motherfuckers :colbert:

Hopefully someone can serve Luca in a restaurant somewhere and let him know he isn't the worst defenceman anymore.

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.

dandaman posted:

Leafs lost.

Islanders lost.

Cats win 4th in a row, last 7 of 8.

Panthers in 3rd place in the Atlantic.

:catdrugs::catdrugs::catdrugs:

The West is the bad conference. But yes, this win streak owns.

Cocaine Bear
Nov 4, 2011

ACAB

DOOMocrat posted:

After the first third period comeback of the year, the Stars salute Dave Strader calling a game for the first time this season, while recieving cancer treatment.

He was great. gently caress cancer.

https://twitter.com/myregularface/status/833160030346153984

Dave owns, Benn owns, please don't take Russ, Vegas.

THE MACHO MAN
Nov 15, 2007

...Carey...

draw me like one of your French Canadian girls

god I love this and I love Jagr. I hope he lands on yet another team next season.

CDX
Dec 3, 2004

Cheap, but not as cheap as your girlfriend.
So I haven't been posting or following the talk here this season, but just wondering what HAS was thinking the issue was with Plekanec this year? Just being older, or Therrien and we can expect good things from now on, or what?

Technetium
Oct 26, 2006

TRILOBITE TECHNICIAN
QUITE POSSIBLY GAY

RC Cola posted:

I think literally everyone did assuming an uninjured McDavid.

I didn't think McDavid would be enough to drag that team around with him. I also figured with a healthy Price the Canadiens would be the best Canadian team but it turns out he's not unbreakable.

pseudodragon
Jun 16, 2007


Sharks Eat Bear posted:

Honest question -- is there a more unbreakable individual record in modern major sports than Gretzky's scoring lead?

In baseball, pretty much all of the old starting pitching records are untouchable unless they allow pitchers with robot arms

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
Even if you exclude the 1880s like Old Hoss Radbourn winning 59 games, no one is still touching the modern record of 31. Or Nolan Ryan's 383 strikeouts in one season.

Anyway as good as Gretzky's pure numbers are they aren't really that impressive when you watch film of how the game was played then. If a "greatest of all time" level talent had his career arc now, he'd have like 75% of Gretzky's point total.

ElwoodCuse fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Feb 19, 2017

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Yes it's Gretzky's fault he wasn't born 20 years later, what a dickhead. We should take away all his records for picking on the poor quality NHL players of the 80's and 90's.

Shawn Cotureier
Jan 21, 2009

Still better than Umberger
ANDREW MACDONALD IS A HEALTHY SCRATCH TONIGHT :tastykake:

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

ElwoodCuse posted:

Even if you exclude the 1880s like Old Hoss Radbourn winning 59 games, no one is still touching the modern record of 31. Or Nolan Ryan's 383 strikeouts in one season.

Anyway as good as Gretzky's pure numbers are they aren't really that impressive when you watch film of how the game was played then. If a "greatest of all time" level talent had his career arc now, he'd have like 75% of Gretzky's point total.

Everyone else on that ice got to play against the same people and I don't see any of them with 2800 points.

Teemu Pokemon
Jun 19, 2004

To sign them is my real test

With full no movement clause

xzzy posted:

Yes it's Gretzky's fault he wasn't born 20 years later, what a dickhead. We should take away all his records for picking on the poor quality NHL players of the 80's and 90's.

I think we can admit that Gretzky's numbers are era inflated while still acknowledging that he was a beast. If he started playing in 1996 he wouldn't end his career with 2800+ points, but he'd probably have at least like 2300 which would still end up being 500+ more than any player who didn't play for 25 years

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

So we're arguing whether his unbeatable record is actually supposed to be an unbeatable record with a slightly smaller number?

:goonsay:

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

I think they should put an asterisk next to his records because he was playing before the salary cap era, the mass lockout era, and the butterfly goaltending era

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

hifi posted:

I think they should put an asterisk next to his records because he was playing before the salary cap era, the mass lockout era, and the butterfly goaltending era

but we can't make the nets bigger because

soggybagel
Aug 6, 2006
The official account of NFL Tackle Phil Loadholt.

Let's talk Football.
Gretzky is a fraud. The greatest hockey player of all time is Mike Gartner.

Schremp Howard
Jul 18, 2010

What attitude problem?
The only record that I take exception to because of eras is the goalie wins record because Parent did that when they didn't have overtime let alone shootouts.

Gretzky scored 200 points in a season four times. Nobody else did it once. What that guy did is nuts regardless of his era.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




Shawn Cotureier posted:

ANDREW MACDONALD IS A HEALTHY SCRATCH TONIGHT :tastykake:

god bless

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Sharks Eat Bear posted:

Honest question -- is there a more unbreakable individual record in modern major sports than Gretzky's scoring lead?

Cal Ripken Jr's streak. Micheal Schumachers 7 WDC's, Tom Kristensen's 9 Le Mans.

Krime
Jul 30, 2003

Somebody has to do the scoring around here.

Schremp Howard posted:

The only record that I take exception to because of eras is the goalie wins record because Parent did that when they didn't have overtime let alone shootouts.

Gretzky scored 200 points in a season four times. Nobody else did it once. What that guy did is nuts regardless of his era.

I wonder how many goals were called back or waived off the year Lemieux got 199. Gotta figure at least 1 scoring play got called back... it burns me to see him at 199.

Twin Cinema
Jun 1, 2006



Playoffs are no big deal,
don't have a crap attack.

ElwoodCuse posted:

Anyway as good as Gretzky's pure numbers are they aren't really that impressive when you watch film of how the game was played then. If a "greatest of all time" level talent had his career arc now, he'd have like 75% of Gretzky's point total.

80-81: Gretzky 164; Dionne 135
81-82: Gretzky 212; Bossy 147
82-83: Gretzky 196; Stastny 124
83-84: Gretzky 205; Coffey 126
84-85: Gretzky 208; Kurri 135
85-86: Gretzky 215; Lemieux 141
86-87: Gretzky 183; Kurri 108

It's not just the amount of points that Gretzky got that make him impressive -- it's also the amount of points relative to his peers that make him impressive. Like, until Lemieux became a force, Gretzky was outscoring his opponents at a ridiculous rate. In 83-84, he outscored the second-place Coffey by 79 points!

Krime posted:

I wonder how many goals were called back or waived off the year Lemieux got 199. Gotta figure at least 1 scoring play got called back... it burns me to see him at 199.

Just imagine if he played one of the four games that he missed. He was only held pointless in 8 of the 76 games he played that year.

Reince Penis
Nov 15, 2007

by R. Guyovich

CDX posted:

So I haven't been posting or following the talk here this season, but just wondering what HAS was thinking the issue was with Plekanec this year? Just being older, or Therrien and we can expect good things from now on, or what?

Honestly I think he's just having a down year. Dude is only 34 and plays a great 2 way game. He's still got 3-4 productive years in this league left.

Lots of criticism right now that he's overpaid but I'll throw up the usual reminder that NHL contracts pay for past performance, and pleks has been a solid part of the team for a decade.

In short, <3

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Red Wings decent this weekend.

Fire Ken Holland.

dadjokes
Feb 9, 2015

Henrik Zetterberg posted:

Red Wings decent this weekend.

Fire Ken Holland.

Dead owner bounce.

Also lol pens fans tears in the game day thread.

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Honestly I think he's just having a down year. Dude is only 34 and plays a great 2 way game. He's still got 3-4 productive years in this league left.

Lots of criticism right now that he's overpaid but I'll throw up the usual reminder that NHL contracts pay for past performance, and pleks has been a solid part of the team for a decade.

In short, <3

only 34? most players are definitely declining at that age

not that he's going to be useless or something but a "down year" probably isn't quite an accurate description

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Twin Cinema posted:

83-84: Gretzky 205; Coffey 126
84-85: Gretzky 208; Kurri 135
86-87: Gretzky 183; Kurri 108

It's ridiculous how large the gap was with his own teammates in second place. Even with Mario in the picture, he still kept two teammates in the top four for several years. There's a substantial gap from those guys to the next team-driving legend.

85-86
Gretzky 215
Lemieux 141
Coffey 138
Kurri 131
Bossy 123

86-87
Gretzky 183
Kurri 108
Messier 107
Lemieux 107
Gilmour 105

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Nairbo
Jan 2, 2005
I am really not happy today.

Nairbo fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Feb 20, 2017

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