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I wonder how samey their personalities will be. One of the subtle things I liked about the ME series was the different VO takes on the character. Meer was more straight-laced boy scout while Hale's Shepard did on give a gently caress even when playing the Paragon.
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Mymla posted:For alien characters I think it's super weird to have gender restricted romances. If you want to gently caress Garrus or Tali, you're a xenophile before you're gay or straight, and the same goes for them. It's completely conceivable for straight men and lesbians to be attracted to characters like Liara and Tali, because they are women by any pertinent definition of the term. It's very unrealistic for straight women and gay men to feel the same.
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Feb 19, 2017 15:55
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So to try and give some alternative discussion, does anyone think it's odd how we're one month away from launch but we've seen relatively little of this game compared to others?
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Feb 19, 2017 15:57
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No, no one has ever said this.
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DancingShade posted:I took this gun. Now give me your alien technology that can fix my faaaaaaaace Pay attention to the Hedrigall posted:Talking of space girlfriends, devs confirmed on twitter that Vetra is romanceable... but not by who. Everyone is fuckable and they even ask which pronouns they want you to use each time neonbregna fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Feb 19, 2017 |
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Feb 19, 2017 16:02
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BrianWilly posted:The problem here is that aliens in the ME Milky Way galaxy -- and maybe across the ME universe itself -- conform very much towards gendered identities and biology. They refer to themselves and each other as men and women, they use and maintain gendered pronouns and titles, and (as far as romanceable species go) they resemble comparably-human standards of sexual dimorphism. Even their voices are recognizably gendered. The closest we get to bucking these trends is with Liara calling herself monogendered, but that's frankly a very misleading moniker because the Asari are basically the most observably-gendered species in the whole franchise. Source your quotes
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Skippy McPants posted:I wonder how samey their personalities will be. One of the subtle things I liked about the ME series was the different VO takes on the character. Meer was more straight-laced boy scout while Hale's Shepard did on give a gently caress even when playing the Paragon. That is something they've commented on: Scott and Sara have different base personalities, because the one you don't play will be a character on the ship to talk to. So the difference between Meer and Hale would be more pronounced here because the equivalent opposite gender twin is actually present. Imagine if Hale-Shep and Meer-Shep were actually both on the Normandy and the one you're not playing got to hang around with the one you were.
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Feb 19, 2017 16:07
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marshmallow creep posted:That is something they've commented on: Scott and Sara have different base personalities, because the one you don't play will be a character on the ship to talk to. So the difference between Meer and Hale would be more pronounced here because the equivalent opposite gender twin is actually present. Imagine if Hale-Shep and Meer-Shep were actually both on the Normandy and the one you're not playing got to hang around with the one you were. I would go gently caress myself 
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Feb 19, 2017 16:08
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Bioware doesn't pander enough to their players? Now I've heard everything!neonbregna posted:Source your quotes BrianWilly is entirely correct here.
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Feb 19, 2017 16:11
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Fangz posted:Kaidan is way better in ME3. Wouldn't know, I always let him die in ME1.
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Feb 19, 2017 16:13
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Flatscan posted:Wouldn't know, I always let him die in ME1. I usually do, too. Shame that Kaidan is a much better squadmate in ME3 than Ashley. Ashley's thing is being tougher but less damaging than Garrus, more damaging but not as tough as Vega, and her skill set is mostly a copy/paste of Zaeed. She's not bad if you can give her something like the particle rifle or especially the typhoon, but Kaidan is a tech/biotic monster who has assault rifles to boot.
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Flatscan posted:Wouldn't know, I always let him die in ME1. He comes back and whines at you for the second game in a row about how Cerberus is evil and you're evil and can he please have his old job back? He got to sit in his room for the rest of the game.
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Cythereal posted:I usually do, too. Shame that Kaidan is a much better squadmate in ME3 than Ashley. Ashley's thing is being tougher but less damaging than Garrus, more damaging but not as tough as Vega, and her skill set is mostly a copy/paste of Zaeed. She's not bad if you can give her something like the particle rifle or especially the typhoon, but Kaidan is a tech/biotic monster who has assault rifles to boot. And in 1.0.4 they broke her unique power so that if she uses it her AI breaks and she just stands there doing nothing until it expires.
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Feb 19, 2017 16:37
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I think it'd be really cool if romancing characters was thrown out the loving airlock because not everyone needs to be attracted to everyone at all god damned times and it will never not be cringey.
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Feb 19, 2017 16:56
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who will fill the void in my life if not a seven feet tall bug lady from space
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Feb 19, 2017 16:58
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marshmallow creep posted:The character kits for Sara and Scott got updated based on people's feedback: Comparison (left is new, right is old)  
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Feb 19, 2017 17:05
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What a difference some shading and shadows makes.
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Feb 19, 2017 17:10
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i want to have sex with new sara ryder
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That brings to mind a good way Bioware could piss off the grogs that they will never, ever do: if you play as Sarah, MRyder starts dating and eventually marries a male NPC.
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Cythereal posted:That brings to mind a good way Bioware could piss off the grogs that they will never, ever do: if you play as Sarah, MRyder starts dating and eventually marries a male NPC. If you play as male Ryder and start a relationship with a woman, your sister is all "Wait, hold on, I thought you were gay?"
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Feb 19, 2017 17:18
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I wish you could have cuckolded Seth Green
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Feb 19, 2017 17:26
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steakmancer posted:I wish you could have cuckolded Seth Green "oh you interested? yeah I already took that dryer for a spin if you know what im saying..."  *nudge*
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Feb 19, 2017 17:29
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Mymla posted:People have really dumb opinions about BG2, because they played it when they were 14. A lot of people have played Baldur's Gate 2 as adults and still enjoy the characters, story, and setting.
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I said come in! posted:A lot of people have played Baldur's Gate 2 as adults and still enjoy the characters, story, and setting. i'm sorry to hear that
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MadBimber posted:dude just leave this thread and come back to bf1. this is gonna be a mediocre but guilty pleasure game i can do multiple things at once!!! im playing eso right now and taking a bf1 break till the DLC
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I wish they made a good dnd game in TYOOL 201X
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While it still is far from perfect, I think Inquisition is the Bioware game that handled romance and and your companions' sexuality the best so far. In several cases it ties into their personality, which gives at least an illusion of depth. Dorian, as mentioned, has his sexuality as an essential part of his arc, Solas is a racist, Bull comes from a culture with a totally different perspective on sex, and Cassandra has a thing for traditional romance. Then on the other side of the coin you have Sera, where her being a lesbian matters not one bit, and Josephine who doesn't even mention neither gender nor race, which is a bit lazy. That the different options don't follow the exact same pattern of flirting until you bang in the cutscene before the final mission is a very good thing, and one that gives a bit of meaningful variety to the relationships. Outside of Bioware the game that best handled companion characters in terms of sexuality is Fallout New Vegas. Because in that case it wasn't there for the player. It was just part of their character, not a restriction saying that you have to be a woman to bang the birdman.
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I really like Cassandra as a character, because on the one hand, she's a strong female Warrior. But she's also the most open to different points of view, and can usually be convinced that whatever course of action you're taking is a good and justified one. She's also got vices and kinks, and is very human underneath the 'proper' exterior that she tries to maintain.
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Lt. Danger posted:
says what academic source
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Cythereal posted:That brings to mind a good way Bioware could piss off the grogs that they will never, ever do: if you play as Sarah, MRyder starts dating and eventually marries a male NPC. I'd enjoy canonically gender-fluid, pansexual Ryder. It would cause lots of rage.
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steakmancer posted:I wish they made a good dnd game in TYOOL 201X They did, it's called XCOM Enemy Unknown.
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Fangz posted:They did, it's called XCOM Enemy Unknown. Seriously, if they just released a reskin of that game but with Fighter, Rogue, Cleric and Mage classes and gave people swords, bows and magic, you'd have one of the best DnD games in ages. Hell, keep the guns and just set in a Renaissance period a la Pillars of Eternity.
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Fangz posted:They did, it's called XCOM Enemy Unknown. They're actually called Pillars of Eternity and Tyranny.
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Feb 19, 2017 18:55
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Why do all the female chars look kinda strange and hosed up compared to the male chars?
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marshmallow creep posted:Seriously, if they just released a reskin of that game but with Fighter, Rogue, Cleric and Mage classes and gave people swords, bows and magic, you'd have one of the best DnD games in ages. Hell, keep the guns and just set in a Renaissance period a la Pillars of Eternity. I was hugely disappointed in Massive Chalice because I wanted it to be fantasy XCOM and instead we got, well, what we got. D&D 4e was perfectly designed to be a turn-based tactical combat game and they just failed to capitalize on that.
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Lt. Danger posted:Bioware doesn't pander enough to their players? Now I've heard everything! I agree which is why I want to know the source so I can join this hive mind instead of the cisgendered filth that is here.
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neonbregna posted:I agree which is why I want to know the source so I can join this hive mind instead of the cisgendered filth that is here. I'm not really sure what your objection is, perhaps you should clearly state that first. Because "Mass Effect has aliens that aren't very alien and mostly conform to our own concepts of gender, even the ones that are supposedly monogendered" is one of the least controversial statements I can think of.
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'm not really sure what your objection is, perhaps you should clearly state that first. Well, "asari are loving awful" has been a constant from ME1 on and I'd be very disappointed, though not at all surprised, if PeeBee is left as the token romance for queer Sarah Ryder.
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Cythereal posted:Well, "asari are loving awful" has been a constant from ME1 on and I'd be very disappointed, though not at all surprised, if PeeBee is left as the token romance for queer Sarah Ryder. It would on the other hand be an amazing twist if she turned out to be the Varric of Andromeda. Actually a good character, and not at all a romance option. Just imagine all the sweet rage pouring from the pubbies as they realise they can't gently caress the blue spacebabe. 
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quote:Crackseed @dacrackseed Wasn't sure the radial menu was going to be used for powers at all at this point. quote:oo GALAXY oo @galaxyshimmers That's something at least. quote:Luke Mallia @drknockers05 A favorite returns! And more Todd McFarlane toys: 
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